So how do you think Industry rates will decline with the downturn?

[multimedia]

It's clear it's going to be a long, slow, slog to recovery.

So will customers decline like it did during the 09 downturn once more real layoffs start happening in white collar jobs, bonuses reduced OR will out of work food and retail industry workers 'turn' to the trade, once CERB runs out and they desperately need some cash to pay for their nice condo pad?

I would have to think rates will be negatively pressured?

 

[CLOUD 500]

If you mean the sex business I predict the rates will increase. Girls will be scared and they will charge a premium for GFE. Government might enforce mandatory masks and gloves. If clients are unwilling to pay I think many of these girls will quit. The longer social distancing rules are enforced the less likely the sex industry will go back to normal.

 

[bebe]

Rates will drop if they do move. Supply will be high. Demand will be down.

It will take a while for all industries to get back up to speed, including this one.

Just Look at the various opinions, many guys have no plans to hobby until a vaccine is found others will not.

Some Agencies have remained open all throughout the pandemic. No change in rates.

Have a feeling the rates will not change. Agencies will probably just offer a more attractive incentive program

 

[rajbabba]

I think demand will remain high. Demanders will be thinking with their dicks. Supply will shrink slightly - the smart suppliers thinking with their heads. Ergo, prices up.

 

[blueray]

Have a feeling the rates will not change. Agencies will probably just offer a more attractive incentive program

I agree with this. I think agencies will be battling for a smaller number of clients. Prices may decrease slightly, maybe, but an enhanced loyalty program might be key to attracting a higher percentage of those clients.

I can see more young women coming into the business due to a decrease in other employment options. I can also see a smaller number of clients, and clients who hobby less frequently, because of fiscal restraints.

 

[Careyguy]

Sex industry is recession proof. Unfortunately not pandemic proof.

There is a pent up demand from all the clients stuck at home with their wives. Lol. Should be interesting once agencies get up and running again. Rates will stay the same.

 

[Fradi]

If you mean the sex business I predict the rates will increase. Girls will be scared and they will charge a premium for GFE. Government might enforce mandatory masks and gloves. If clients are unwilling to pay I think many of these girls will quit. The longer social distancing rules are enforced the less likely the sex industry will go back to normal.

How can government enforce gloves and masks on something that is illegal to begin with and when have SP or clients paid any attention to what government is saying when it comes to sex.
Gloves and masks I don’t see how that would prevent anything considering the type of close contact.
Will GFE change, with some for sure they may use it to stop offering things they didn’t like doing in the first place but thought they must to be able to compete and this will change if others do offer it.
I think rates will start off being the same to test the waters and then there will be incentives offered as reality sinks in that many clients will still be scared for their health, many have lost a lot of their income and many will be out of a job so clients will be in much shorter supply.
You will not have all the international and US tourists either for quite sometime so it will be a competition for the local guys.
There will also be more women entering the business than leaving it due to having difficulty in finding meaningful employment.

I will offer the ones I have been seeing the same as before even if they lower their rates. I had no problem with their rates and they were always kind to me and treated me well.

 

[Kracker]

There will also be more women entering the business than leaving it due to having difficulty in finding meaningful employment.

Really interesting point I hadn't thought of! No idea how rates will play out. If I had to guess I'd guess they'll start with the same old rates and see how it goes. If they're overbooked for more than a week, they'll raise them.

 

[lomotil]

It's clear it's going to be a long, slow, slog to recovery.

So will customers decline like it did during the 09 downturn once more real layoffs start happening in white collar jobs, bonuses reduced OR will out of work food and retail industry workers 'turn' to the trade, once CERB runs out and they desperately need some cash to pay for their nice condo pad?

I would have to think rates will be negatively pressured?

There will be a two tiered market initially. There will be the Chinese or Asian deep discount market which will be a race to the bottom like the pre-pandemic $20 or perhaps lower jack off rate and then there will be the places that will attempt to charge the same or more than before the pandemic. The clientele for both markets is different but I think that the market will morph into something between the two extremes with higher ends forced to consider some discounting. The ultra high end sex providers and their clients are few and far between and will find each. The world and sex trade are going into a recession or perhaps even a depression which should draw out much more ladies into the sex trade but then there is the fear factor due to the new normal of social distancing. Once the air clears and it becomes apparent that some sex workers are making very very coin , then expect the market to become saturated . This may take a long time, particularly if the virus survives until the next flu season.

 

[lessjamie7]

I think rates will start off being the same to test the waters and then there will be incentives offered as reality sinks in that many clients will still be scared for their health, many have lost a lot of their income and many will be out of a job so clients will be in much shorter supply.
You will not have all the international and US tourists either for quite some time so it will be a competition for the local guys.
There will also be more women entering the business than leaving it due to having difficulty in finding meaningful employment.



Well, this is potentially good news. For me the first 70% of my donation is for hygiene the other 30% is for sex. If the competition for local cash is going to get tougher for the ladies maybe the ladies trying to get their share of clientele cash will start putting more effort into their personal hygiene. In my experience that is probably the single most important factor in a visit with an SP and as well the single most prominent and persistent issue around hobbying disappointment.

That disappointment is not based on money spent per hour. This also has nothing to do with an agency versus indies I have been disgusted at $500 an hour and very impressed at $200 an hour. I think the trouble starts with a woman that is preparing for who might walk through her door, instead of preparing herself based on her personal pride and ethics.

I hope this doesn't trigger the simps out there signing in and defending their favorite girl's name in the hope of getting a public pat on the head from her that's really sickening, to be honest if you think so much of her your sentiments are already out there because you are so thoughtful appreciative and considerate so don't be a hypocrite now. I am not using names and my experiences are mine alone and based on them? hygiene in this industry needs to improve.


So shower me in insults or bathe me in praise, either way, it's all about hygiene.

LJ

 

[kstanb]

I doubt there will be a rate decline for industry established ladies

most likely a proliferation of "sugar babies" on those arrangement sites

 

[lomotil]

I doubt there will be a rate decline for industry established ladies

most likely a proliferation of "sugar babies" on those arrangement sites

As with most things, there will be a "new normal"

 

[CLOUD 500]

Fradi,

You are right about illegal but come on they know these escorts and MPs are there and operating. This is called selective enforcement. LE might use this as an opportunity to shut it all down. I also think the psychology of enforcing masks will make girls too scared to do much especially GFE. I believe GFE will be history. It will be FS and HJs only with masks on. This is my prediction. And the girls bold enough to want to offer GFE will charge a premium. Many clients will also be too scared. The industry as a whole will come to a stop. It will take a long time for it to recover. The longer the government enforces social distancing rules the longer the recovery. Keep in mind it is the psychology and state of mind of both the girls and the Johns. My view is not very optimistic.

 

[Malibuk]

Reduced rates will not make people who are afraid to go suddenly no longer afraid.

However, there will be more competition for a piece of a smaller pie.

 

[Buick Mackane]

I think the industry will be smaller and less mainstream.
There will be less demand and less supply, therefore the rates are unlikely to change.

 

[Fradi]

Cloud 500,

Obviously we are talking about two different things, I don’t frequent strip clubs nor massage parlours where you are right LE and government could very well require masks and gloves. The pricks that they are they would love to use anything they can to bring that industry down and I totally agree with you.

When it comes to escorts especially the indies that I frequent they have no clue where the activity takes place and there is no way they can enforce shit, if they could enforce anything all the Johns would be in jail as it is an illegal activity for them.
I don’t see indies not offering GFE or DFK and BBBJ except for maybe the ones that didn’t like offering it in the first place but were afraid of losing business if they didn’t and now they have the perfect excuse.
Most indies I think will keep offering the same as before at the same rate especially in the beginning and more so to their favoured regulars, they know the value of repeat business and now is certainly not the time to kill the goose that lays the golden egg.

 

[Agamenon]

I say that they will stay the same or go up if a few select ladies have their way. Sadly these are the first ones that will yell at you for getting into their business and trash other woman for lowering their rates.

 

[Don Draper]

It doesn't mater about rates.

You know this.

Hobbying is a great option.

It's not plan B or C or even "X".

It's when you're good to have fun, Once or maybe twice a year.

 

[asuran]

I expect things to stay 90% the same.

The way I see it, I have to take into account that the virus will still be here (until vaccine or whatever that kills it). I am just going to self limit the risk once things open up again.
If I see a lady having lower rates, does that tell me she will be attracting more or getting more clients? How does that affect my risk?

I think the market will adjust itself just slightly. Definitely a slight bit of jostling around to get a feel of the market.

I simply cannot think of it as easy as a supply/demand adjustment.

There will always be a sizable group in both client and provider side that puts less weight into health risks, as we can see from the group of yahoos that were protesting the lockdown.

Everyone is different and will have to adjust their personal balance:
Health risks vs Financial restrictions

I doubt there will be a rate decline for industry established ladies

most likely a proliferation of "sugar babies" on those arrangement sites

I can definitely see this happening. A more 'exclusive' arrangement. Limit the number of clients/variables, limit the health risk.