Silence from 'feminists' and 'progressives' over Iran

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Where are the American feminists and “progressives” when we need them? You know, the men-versus-women, pro-abortion types who say things like the reversal of Roe v. Wade represents “men wanting to tell women what to do with their bodies”?

Last month, on Sept. 16, Mahsa Amini, a 22-year-old woman living in Iran, died in a hospital three days after being arrested in Tehran by the state’s morality police known as “Guidance Patrols.” Her crime? She showed too much hair underneath her hijab, or headscarf.

The New York Times reported: “The police did not offer an explanation for why Ms. Amini was detained, other than that it involved the hijab rule. Her mother said in an interview with Iranian news media that her daughter was observing the rules and wearing a long, loose robe. She said Ms. Amini was arrested as she exited the subway with her brother and that his pleas that they were visitors to the city were ignored.”

According to the BBC: “Eyewitnesses said Mahsa Amini was beaten while inside a police van when she was picked up in Tehran on Tuesday. Police have denied the allegations, saying Amini had ‘suddenly suffered a heart problem.'” However, at least one Iranian judicial official, according to state media, said the woman suffered “multiple fractures … in the pelvis, head, upper and lower limbs, arms and legs, which indicate that the person was thrown from a height.”

In protest, women in Iran are cutting their hair, with some taking to social media and burning their hijabs. Two weeks ago, CNN reported: “Protests have swept through more than 40 Iranian cities, including the capital Tehran. Iranian security forces have been cracking down on protesters, with hundreds arrested and at least 41 killed, according to state media. Some human rights organizations say the death toll is as high as 76.” As for Iran, Human Right Watch states: “Since March 21, 2022, at the beginning of Iranian New Year, Human Rights Activists News Agency (HRANA) has documented 306 executions, 130 of them for drug-related charges and 151 of them based on the Islamic principle of qisas, or ‘retribution in kind’ punishments. Between May 21 and June 21 alone, the group documented 99 executions.”

Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, D-N.Y., tweeted: “Solidarity with the courageous women and allies in Iran protesting for their freedom. Mahsa Amini was senselessly murdered by the same patriarchal and autocratic forces repressing women the world over. The right to choose belongs to us all, from hijabs to reproductive care.”

Rep. Ilhan Omar, D-Minn., put out a statement: “Those responsible for her death should be held accountable and the world should be united in fighting against the policing of what women wear and how they show up in society. Banning the hijab is not much different than forcing one on women. Religious beliefs are personal and should never be imposed on anyone. (May God have mercy upon her soul).”

Rashida Tlaib, D-Mich., who once said about President Donald Trump, “We’re going to impeach this motherf—,” and after the reversal of Roe v. Wade, tweeted, “Reproductive rights are human rights that remain under threat across the country,” tweeted mildly: “I stand in solidarity with the Iran protests as they fight for a woman’s right to bodily autonomy and against police brutality in the wake of the horrifying murder of Mahsa Amini.”

As for the rest of The Squad, silence.

No call by American feminists and progressives for the collapse of the totalitarian government of Iran. No wholesale condemnation of this police state’s mandate that women wear the hijab and face imprisonment for failing to do so, or for failing to wear it “correctly.” No plea that the Biden administration, at the very least, publicly support the Iranian protesters demonstrating the same kind of courage as have the Ukrainians following the Russian invasion.

Talk about men telling women what to do with their bodies. All the elements to make this an Iranian George Floyd moment are present. But the relative silence by The Squad has been deafening.

 

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Where are the American feminists and “progressives” when we need them? You know, the men-versus-women, pro-abortion types who say things like the reversal of Roe v. Wade represents “men wanting to tell women what to do with their bodies”?

Last month, on Sept. 16, Mahsa Amini, a 22-year-old woman living in Iran, died in a hospital three days after being arrested in Tehran by the state’s morality police known as “Guidance Patrols.” Her crime? She showed too much hair underneath her hijab, or headscarf.

The New York Times reported: “The police did not offer an explanation for why Ms. Amini was detained, other than that it involved the hijab rule. Her mother said in an interview with Iranian news media that her daughter was observing the rules and wearing a long, loose robe. She said Ms. Amini was arrested as she exited the subway with her brother and that his pleas that they were visitors to the city were ignored.”

According to the BBC: “Eyewitnesses said Mahsa Amini was beaten while inside a police van when she was picked up in Tehran on Tuesday. Police have denied the allegations, saying Amini had ‘suddenly suffered a heart problem.'” However, at least one Iranian judicial official, according to state media, said the woman suffered “multiple fractures … in the pelvis, head, upper and lower limbs, arms and legs, which indicate that the person was thrown from a height.”

In protest, women in Iran are cutting their hair, with some taking to social media and burning their hijabs. Two weeks ago, CNN reported: “Protests have swept through more than 40 Iranian cities, including the capital Tehran. Iranian security forces have been cracking down on protesters, with hundreds arrested and at least 41 killed, according to state media. Some human rights organizations say the death toll is as high as 76.” As for Iran, Human Right Watch states: “Since March 21, 2022, at the beginning of Iranian New Year, Human Rights Activists News Agency (HRANA) has documented 306 executions, 130 of them for drug-related charges and 151 of them based on the Islamic principle of qisas, or ‘retribution in kind’ punishments. Between May 21 and June 21 alone, the group documented 99 executions.”

Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, D-N.Y., tweeted: “Solidarity with the courageous women and allies in Iran protesting for their freedom. Mahsa Amini was senselessly murdered by the same patriarchal and autocratic forces repressing women the world over. The right to choose belongs to us all, from hijabs to reproductive care.”

Rep. Ilhan Omar, D-Minn., put out a statement: “Those responsible for her death should be held accountable and the world should be united in fighting against the policing of what women wear and how they show up in society. Banning the hijab is not much different than forcing one on women. Religious beliefs are personal and should never be imposed on anyone. (May God have mercy upon her soul).”

Rashida Tlaib, D-Mich., who once said about President Donald Trump, “We’re going to impeach this motherf—,” and after the reversal of Roe v. Wade, tweeted, “Reproductive rights are human rights that remain under threat across the country,” tweeted mildly: “I stand in solidarity with the Iran protests as they fight for a woman’s right to bodily autonomy and against police brutality in the wake of the horrifying murder of Mahsa Amini.”

As for the rest of The Squad, silence.

No call by American feminists and progressives for the collapse of the totalitarian government of Iran. No wholesale condemnation of this police state’s mandate that women wear the hijab and face imprisonment for failing to do so, or for failing to wear it “correctly.” No plea that the Biden administration, at the very least, publicly support the Iranian protesters demonstrating the same kind of courage as have the Ukrainians following the Russian invasion.

Talk about men telling women what to do with their bodies. All the elements to make this an Iranian George Floyd moment are present. But the relative silence by The Squad has been deafening.

Well, at least 3 members of "The Squad" have published press releases supporting the protests in Iran. And I suspect that the other members - I thought that there WERE only 4 members btw - would give similar statements of support, if asked.

I bet the other feminist organizations have also published statements of support and The Sun has simply avoided looking for those statements. It's difficult to perceive why Western feminists wouldn't support the protests. Iran is generally despised in the West and AFAIK there are no elements that actually support the regime among Western opinion groups.

So this is lying bullshit from The Sun, as usual.
 

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Well, at least 3 members of "The Squad" have published press releases supporting the protests in Iran. And I suspect that the other members - I thought that there WERE only 4 members btw - would give similar statements of support, if asked.

I bet the other feminist organizations have also published statements of support and The Sun has simply avoided looking for those statements. It's difficult to perceive why Western feminists wouldn't support the protests. Iran is generally despised in the West and AFAIK there are no elements that actually support the regime among Western opinion groups.

So this is lying bullshit from The Sun, as usual.
I don't know if Pressley has said anything, but since that Sun article seems to think anything less than demanding regime change would count, I doubt it matters.

These articles know people like OP won't go and look for himself what the story is but just accept what his media masters tell him.

You are correct, of course, about statements of support.

Feminist organizations world wide have been in the streets showing support.

And, unsurprisingly, despite what the articles say, Biden has been praising and supporting them for weeks now.
 
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There's nothing sadder than someone who reads The Sun, except someone who cuts and pastes The Sun.

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I don't know if Pressley has said anything, but since that Sun article seems to think anything less than demanding regime change would count, I doubt it matters.

These articles know people like OP won't go and look for himself what the story is but just accept what his media masters tell him.

You are correct, of course, about statements of support.

Feminist organizations world wide have been in the streets showing support.

And, unsurprisingly, despite what the articles say, Biden has been praising and supporting them for weeks now.
Why don't you read the whole article Sherlock? Read the article carefully and try to figure out who he's talking about before taking a shot. He's talking about the the Squad not the rest of the world. By the way I posted a few threads about Iran beating and killing women and their own people, not a word of condemnation from you and the other Libs. But you get excited that I posted an article from the Sun. Sick!
 
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Why don't you read the whole article Sherlock? Read the article carefully and try to figure out who he's talking about before taking a shot. He's talking about the the Squad not the rest of the world.
Calm your tits.

Where are the American feminists and “progressives” when we need them?
Protesting in the street and condemning what happened, just like I posted.

No call by American feminists and progressives for the collapse of the totalitarian government of Iran.
Like I said - he won't accept anything other than calling for regime change as serious.
Thought I should call that out.

No plea that the Biden administration, at the very least, publicly support the Iranian protesters
No plea because Biden is already publicly supporting them.

It's like I read your article and you didn't.
 

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Calm your tits.



Protesting in the street and condemning what happened, just like I posted.



Like I said - he won't accept anything other than calling for regime change as serious.
Thought I should call that out.


No plea because Biden is already publicly supporting them.

It's like I read your article and you didn't.
You screwed up ...the article was about the Squad. Not who's protesting in the streets or world.
 
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Why don't you read the whole article Sherlock? Read the article carefully and try to figure out who he's talking about before taking a shot. He's talking about the the Squad not the rest of the world. By the way I posted a few threads about Iran beating and killing women and their own people, not a word of condemnation from you and the other Libs. But you get excited that I posted an article from the Sun. Sick!
No, we're pretty upset about Iran as well. There are just no threads on TERB about it because it's hard to figure out what's happening there.
 

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You screwed up ...the article was about the Squad. Not who's protesting in the streets or world.
No. The sad article claimed that lefties are hypocrites because they don't support protests in Iran. The very same article said that 3 of the "Squad" members actually DID support protests in Iran - just not vehemently enough to satisfy the folks at The Sun. And then Valc found that feminist organizations in fact DO support the protests in Iran and The Sun did shitty research for the article - probably deliberately.

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Well, at least 3 members of "The Squad" have published press releases supporting the protests in Iran. ...
Why focus on facts when you can whine about feminists. Maybe the problem is the sun op/ed writer hasn't met any feminists.
 
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No, we're pretty upset about Iran as well. There are just no threads on TERB about it because it's hard to figure out what's happening there.
Iran has been trying to keep the news from getting out.
I still think Biden is missing the boat with Iran. He should have renewed the JCPOA and ended sanctions in exchange for Iran not selling drones to Putin.
The Mullahs are not stupid, even if they are religious wackos.
That would help open up the country a bit and allow the west to get past a bit of the anti-American vibes.

The protests are going on and getting bigger.
More women getting killed by the army.

 

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No. The sad article claimed that lefties are hypocrites because they don't support protests in Iran. The very same article said that 3 of the "Squad" members actually DID support protests in Iran - just not vehemently enough to satisfy the folks at The Sun. And then Valc found that feminist organizations in fact DO support the protests in Iran and The Sun did shitty research for the article - probably deliberately.

😼 🥴🙀
And since I know how to search Twitter (which isn't the only way someone can send out a message) -
Ayanna Pressley tweeted out support in Sept and October, so that's all four original members of the squad.
Jamaal Bowman in October mentioning them in speeches he posted on Twitter, so that's 5 out of 6 just from scanning Twitter alone. (Who knows what formal statements they've made elsewhere.)

So sorry, even if you misread your original article to be just "the Squad" hasn't said anything (which was already dubious since 3 of 6 are quoted right there in the article voicing support), that doesn't hold up.
 
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The USA no longer has a leg to stand on in dealing with Iran, that's bad since Saudi Barbarica is pivoting to Russia.

The message is clear to the mullahs, with the Medieval Forced Birth Act, America condones brutal violence against females. If it becomes nationwide, the rot infecting the national psyche will reach the highest level. It's not a question of abortion, it all about human rights...America is regressing.

As a side note, congratulations to Francesca Fiorentini, she had her first child.

 
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An Iranian climber competed without the headscarf.
So Iran sent her home early and now had her do a public apology.


This just means the protests are spreading and harder for Iran to control.
 

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I still think Biden is missing the boat with Iran. He should have renewed the JCPOA and ended sanctions in exchange for Iran not selling drones to Putin.
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Even though Iran demands that the UN stop investigating undeclared nuclear sites?

Tough position for you to try and defend Iran's nuclear program while having to condemn their human rights abuses.
 

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Even though Iran demands that the UN stop investigating undeclared nuclear sites?

Tough position for you to try and defend Iran's nuclear program while having to condemn their human rights abuses.
I'm arguing for the US to renew the JCPOA so that the IAEA can resume inspections and confirm what we all know, that Iran is not building nukes.
Ending US sanctions would be a start towards negotiating for Iran to stop selling drones to Putin.
 

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I'm arguing for the US to renew the JCPOA so that the IAEA can resume inspections and confirm what we all know, that Iran is not building nukes.
Ending US sanctions would be a start towards negotiating for Iran to stop selling drones to Putin.
And ignoring that Iran demanded the UN STOP inspections as a condition of re-joining.
 

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And ignoring that Iran demanded the UN STOP inspections as a condition of re-joining.
Non- nuclear sites that were outside the original agreement.
Israel has been crying wolf about nukes in Iran for what, 30 years now?
And still nobody has invaded them on their behalf.

Maybe its time you supported nuclear treaties instead of pushing for war.
 
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