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Showtime - Olive Stone, Putin Interviews

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Humanises Putin a lot. Plus provides a non-American centric view in the US-Russian relationship and geopolitics.

Ofc Stone gets a lot of flak for not pressing Putin on more controversial issues like the state-media relation in Russia.

Shows the world is more complex than a good-evil moral narrative we all like to indulge in.
 

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Here I'd wondered who on earth Olive Stone was other than some poor woman perhaps with parents with a nasty sense of humor.

That missing R makes a difference.
 

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Here I'd wondered who on earth Olive Stone was other than some poor woman perhaps with parents with a nasty sense of humor.

That missing R makes a difference.
Proof-reading your own posts is the pits, isn't it?
 

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Here I'd wondered who on earth Olive Stone was other than some poor woman perhaps with parents with a nasty sense of humor.

That missing R makes a difference.
Olive Stone's favourite drink must be a martini. LOL. Thanks for the links SuperCharge. Will try and watch. When during the interview does Stone ask Putin for a body count of the people he's had assassinated? I'd like to start there.
 

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Olive Stone's favourite drink must be a martini. LOL. Thanks for the links SuperCharge. Will try and watch. When during the interview does Stone ask Putin for a body count of the people he's had assassinated? I'd like to start there.
I wonder if Putin laughed uncontrollably or cringed with regret when he was asked about Agent Orange's performance thus far.

It may be a tale tell signal regarding whether Carrot Top is but a stooge or Putin's flailing stooge.
 

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The Putin mania is most amusing. Especially when it is clear that Putin's agenda is almost completely domestic, aimed at domestic stability and survival of his reign. The American controversy, wholly produced in the American news rooms, only adds to his domestic image of a decisive leader and a Russian patriot who is not afraid to defend Russian minorities and keep the outside meddlers at bay. He must think of himself as the luckiest guy in the world, as we do all the leg work for him by putting his name on the front pages and adding to his prestige in the eyes of the Russian people.
 

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The Putin mania is most amusing. Especially when it is clear that Putin's agenda is almost completely domestic, aimed at domestic stability and survival of his reign. The American controversy, wholly produced in the American news rooms, only adds to his domestic image of a decisive leader and a Russian patriot who is not afraid to defend Russian minorities and keep the outside meddlers at bay. He must think of himself as the luckiest guy in the world, as we do all the leg work for him by putting his name on the front pages and adding to his prestige in the eyes of the Russian people.
As Trump lowers American influence in the world, Putin steps up.

So who has watched this whole fluff piece? I watched a few minutes and it's not exactly Frost/Nixon. Kind of boring as Stone asks leading questions and Putin is allowed to pontificate without any pushback.

For SuperCharge or anyone else who managed to sit through the entire thing, Stone is an anti-Zionist, .do they ever get around to talking about Israel?
 

jcpro

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As Trump lowers American influence in the world, Putin steps up.

So who has watched this whole fluff piece? I watched a few minutes and it's not exactly Frost/Nixon. Kind of boring as Stone asks leading questions and Putin is allowed to pontificate without any pushback.
For SuperCharge or anyone else who managed to sit through the entire thing, do they ever talk about Israel?
Where is Putin stepping up? He took Crimea through the back door and a "referendum", he's putting a mild pressure on the Eastern Ukraine and using a minimum effort to keep Assad Jr. alive. He did all those things because he assessed the former president, correctly, to be weak. None of it had anything to do with the current president.
 

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Where is Putin stepping up? He took Crimea through the back door and a "referendum", he's putting a mild pressure on the Eastern Ukraine and using a minimum effort to keep Assad Jr. alive. He did all those things because he assessed the former president, correctly, to be weak. None of it had anything to do with the current president.
Obama was weak. Trump is strong, that is why everybody is laughing at him.
 

jcpro

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A joke, right? Putin loves giving interviews, on his terms. He does not give a shit about climate agreements- never did and never will, cannot afford to support Cuba or North Korea. Especially that NK is in the China's sphere of influence not Russia's. As for the domestic violence. Putin has been knocking off inconvenient individuals since the day he came to power, regardless of who was occupying the White House. I suggest, learn the language and a bit of Russian history and culture(such as it is) and listen to the man himself. When he says that he mourns the passing of the Soviet empire, he's not saying what people think he is saying, he's mourning the passing of the ability to project power and not the domestic "achievements" of the Soviet state since those never existed. And he's painfully aware of contemporary Russia's weakness because he is a pretty sharp operator. And most that he's doing on the international scene is to hide that impotency from his own people.
 
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