Should indy Escorts rush into seeing hobbyists?

[jennyXxX]

With so much hearing about escorts getting hurt in the industry, I think independent escorts should not accept appointments too soon until they learn more about the hobbyist they're going to see such as by exchanging a few online messages. I believe this does a few things:

1. It gives the escort more information and gut-feeling about the hobbyist (via his writing style, if he is respectful).
2. It establishes rapport and comfort zone where more nervous hobbyist can be put in ease, and escorts can learn more about hobbyist's likes/dislikes.
3. It keeps majority of hobbyists around that are willing to get to know the girl and book an actual session (removes more 'no-show' dates).
4. Hides private contact information until you're ready to disclose it (phone number, personal emails etc.). Prevents phone calls from hobbyists that waste your time.

There are good places, including this one, to establish rapport first (even online) before jumping into seeing one another. Minimize your risk of getting hurt, and always ensure that there is someone close to you that knows where you are!

Kisses,
Jen

P.S: For hobbyists - Check out the same escort on multiple sites before you book her. There are so many fake photos and listings out there that promote multiple escorts with the same photo. Ask around people about the places they use to find independent escorts.

 

[Brill]

Good ideas, creating a rapport with a couple of notes can build more trust.

Don't give too much info though in case you learn they aren't discreet.

 

[Aardvark154]

Jenny, I believe that actually this is done fairly often when a new client wants to see an SP. At least that is my own experience.

 

[GPIDEAL]

I won't mention SPs names, but some girls have a certain booking protocols. Like not giving out their number so readily and only taking appointments via PM or email. Until you have a firm booking, then they will give out their number (and you yours).

The thing that all escorts do is not accept blocked or unknown calls, which is a safety feature as opposed to harvesting personal info for malicious purposes.

(A guy can omit his surname if not his entire name from being displayed I believe, but he can still reveal his phone #).

Board networking, emailing or chat are other ways to familiarize or add comfort.

Personally, I notice an initial difference when I meet SPs for the 1st time that have not had any board or email exchange (if they don't go on the boards). It might take some time to get acquainted, which is why being a good conversationalist helps.

 

[Questor]

With so much hearing about escorts getting hurt in the industry, I think independent escorts should not accept appointments too soon until they learn more about the hobbyist they're going to see such as by exchanging a few online messages.

I think discussions about safety are a good idea. But obviously an indie is free to take whatever steps she chooses in order to screen clients. From what I hear, there are a lot of time wasters out there too. And a girl doesn't want to spend all her time on the phone or sending emails back and forth. She doesn't earn income that way.

Sure, a girl might actually screen a bad client or two that way. But really, if you are talking about screening violent clients, I imagine many/most such potentially violent clients are quite capable of passing through this kind of screening. So it is going to be a trade off. More screening = less income or less personal time. I'm just saying that realistically there are costs to a cautious approach. Not every girl is going to want to pay those costs. And the practice of screening by email does not make it a safe line of work. It just reduces some of the risk.

 

[Aardvark154]

Further to the above, I have always presumed that any outcall SP coming to see me was at the very least leaving a note at her place saying where she was going and what time, if there was not a actual person who knew.

 

[jennyXxX]

what I hear, there are a lot of time wasters out there too. And a girl doesn't want to spend all her time on the phone or sending emails back and forth. She doesn't earn income that way.

Yes, I think the points you made are the main ones why escorts don't like emailing and text messaging...they want to get down to 'business' as soon as possible. I think those are the escorts that want earnings more than safety, and also I think those are the ones usually that get hurt .

I know that many SP they have the reference system where another SP have to recommend a client before the client is seen. This is a great system even though it makes it very hard for first-comers to get a 'date' with an escort.

Any tips here that we discuss can help escorts operate in a safer environment.

 

[GPIDEAL]

I think discussions about safety are a good idea. But obviously an indie is free to take whatever steps she chooses in order to screen clients. From what I hear, there are a lot of time wasters out there too. And a girl doesn't want to spend all her time on the phone or sending emails back and forth. She doesn't earn income that way.

Sure, a girl might actually screen a bad client or two that way. But really, if you are talking about screening violent clients, I imagine many/most such potentially violent clients are quite capable of passing through this kind of screening. So it is going to be a trade off. More screening = less income or less personal time. I'm just saying that realistically there are costs to a cautious approach. Not every girl is going to want to pay those costs. And the practice of screening by email does not make it a safe line of work. It just reduces some of the risk.

.... and your explanation is a good reason why it's important for any working girl to maintain or retain repeat or good/safe customers.

 

[GPIDEAL]

Any tips here that we discuss can help escorts operate in a safer environment.

Further to your referral system, I saw a gal who's on this board get a call from another gal (who's on this board) near the start of the session just to check up on her. It was my first time seeing this particular SP, so maybe that's why she was checking up on her.

So add the 'buddy system' for checking up on a girl, especially when she meets new customers.

 

[userz]

The thing that all escorts do is not accept blocked or unknown calls, which is a safety feature

/snip

Because it's not like anyone can just plop down $50 at 7-11 or Petro-Canada and walk out with a phone...

The no blocked/unknown numbers thing gives some people a false sense of security.

 

[5hummer]

Research. Research. Research.

 

[GPIDEAL]

Because it's not like anyone can just plop down $50 at 7-11 or Petro-Canada and walk out with a phone...

The no blocked/unknown numbers thing gives some people a false sense of security.

It's better than nothing but you make a valid point (I don't know about those disposable phones - is there any purchase record of them that can be traced by police later?).

Call display is probably more relevant in eliminating or reducing time-wasters, or identifying no shows, etc.

 

[whobee]

It's a good idea but I don't think some crazy and/or violent people could be screened out via messages and chat. Some scary people seem to be able to act perfectly lucid. I think referrals are a more effective control - except for the fact that they eliminate first time and unremarkable hobbyists. Also, providers would have to keep more detail oriented accounts of who they are seeing for it to work.

 

[GPIDEAL]

It's a good idea but I don't think some crazy and/or violent people could be screened out via messages and chat. Some scary people seem to be able to act perfectly lucid. I think referrals are a more effective control - except for the fact that they eliminate first time and unremarkable hobbyists. Also, providers would have to keep more detail oriented accounts of who they are seeing for it to work.

You have to be a member to log onto chat or send PMs, etc. which can be traced to a computer in order to catch a bad john. The criminal can be very conniving to appear like a decent, normal person, but they will be caught, so hopefully they're also smart enough to realize that consequence as a deterrent to do as they wish with an SP.

P.S. There was one SP who called the cops on a john who tried to blackmail her via email if you can believe that. They traced it back to his computer, and arrested him at home (and he was married too). Not a very smart crook.

 

[jiiimmm]

I've seen some SPs wanting potential clients to fill out forms with personal information which I consider a no go. I understand their concerns but safety and privacy is a two way street. Meet and greets a good way to go. Terb parties or industry gatherings where people can meet and get a genuine feel for one another is my preference. I can't speak for all members but some of us are looking for a long term go to partner. So far I've had my success through SCs. I've tried meeting up with a couple of well reviewed SPs recently but times have not yet meshed and showing up cold is something I still find odd.

 

[whobee]

You have to be a member to log onto chat or send PMs, etc. which can be traced to a computer in order to catch a bad john. The criminal can be very conniving to appear like a decent, normal person, but they will be caught, so hopefully they're also smart enough to realize that consequence as a deterrent to do as they wish with an SP.

Yeah I can see the tracing thing making a thinking hobbyist from doing what he likes to a provider but I think that assumes that we're only talking about site members as potential trouble makers. I think terb members are only a small proportion of hobbyists in general. Generally speaking the hobby IQ of the gen. pop. might not be that high.

 

[GPIDEAL]

Yeah I can see the tracing thing making a thinking hobbyist from doing what he likes to a provider but I think that assumes that we're only talking about site members as potential trouble makers. I think terb members are only a small proportion of hobbyists in general. Generally speaking the hobby IQ of the gen. pop. might not be that high.

Perfect example of a nutbar is the one I gave in my P.S.

 

[GPIDEAL]

I've seen some SPs wanting potential clients to fill out forms with personal information which I consider a no go. I understand their concerns but safety and privacy is a two way street. Meet and greets a good way to go. Terb parties or industry gatherings where people can meet and get a genuine feel for one another is my preference. I can't speak for all members but some of us are looking for a long term go to partner. So far I've had my success through SCs. I've tried meeting up with a couple of well reviewed SPs recently but times have not yet meshed and showing up cold is something I still find odd.

You can sort of network on the board and in chat I suppose. SPs can assess the character of a member that contacts them via their postings too.

 

[luv4lust]

You can sort of network on the board and in chat I suppose. SPs can assess the character of a member that contacts them via their postings too.

exactly i check out post history of everyone i see. i also ask for some sort of references if they have no post count.
i don't see newbies and if you try to pry in to my privacy your out of luck. i only book through terb and i don't give second chances
i've been through the bull shit /no shows/ i forgot my wallet in the car ETC... i'm picky about who i see and thats my right no one is having fun if i'm not comfortable

 

[doggee_01]

exactly i check out post history of everyone i see. i also ask for some sort of references if they have no post count.
i don't see newbies and if you try to pry in to my privacy your out of luck. i only book through terb and i don't give second chances
i've been through the bull shit /no shows/ i forgot my wallet in the car ETC... i'm picky about who i see and thats my right no one is having fun if i'm not comfortable

and that is the way it should be........anyone that doesn't like that then you don't want to see anyway!!!!