Should Fascism Sit on the Right…or Left?

Valcazar

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squeezer

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Interesting read...

" There is a solid conceptual argument backed by a body of evidence that Naziism, fascism and even white supremacy aren’t “right wing” at all, that they are creatures of the left and have been from the beginning."

https://c2cjournal.ca/2022/01/left-wing-fascism-and-its-war-against-conservatives/
No wonder you come up with the most radical right arguments. You really need to get out of the deep radical right echo chamber.

 

Skoob

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No wonder you come up with the most radical right arguments. You really need to get out of the deep radical right echo chamber.

Says the guy who uses obscure youtube videos as his moral compass....

By your measure..."right"...that's not "radically right".

You also forgot the part about...
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...what part do you not agree with in the article I shared?
 

Skoob

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So is the stupid version of the argument or the very stupid version of the argument?
Your point?

Oh nevermind...you never really have a point to offer. Just snide remarks from an armchair quarterback lacking substance and relevance.

Carry on...
 
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Skoob

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Fascism is a uniquely Right Wing phenomenon.

There are Left Wing regimes that have been highly authoritarian and repressive; but it would not be accurate to call them fascist.
The point is that Fascism as a term has been used incorrectly and associated too broadly.
 
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Skoob here's your moral compass, enjoy.

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They actually got off easy. Imagine what would have happened to Hitler if the Russians captured him alive.
 
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Valcazar

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The point is that Fascism as a term has been used incorrectly and associated too broadly.
That's a different argument from " Naziism, fascism and even white supremacy aren’t “right wing” at all, that they are creatures of the left and have been from the beginning "
 

Valcazar

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Mental gymnastics taken to the next level lmfao.
Fascism firmly sits on the right.
It isn't a debate.
I think you can have an interesting debate about whether the various Fascisms fit comfortably on the right/left axis at all.
But that's kind of abstract and in-the-weeds.

Anyone arguing "No, it is a leftist/liberal thing, actually" isn't very serious.
 

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That was definitely a bunch of words on my screen.

The article itself is full of circular arguments and straight up misrepresentations. My favorite is the "the Nazi party had socialist in their name" bit. then going on to say that the brownshirts were fighting "other socialists"


The other bit I love is "every scholar SAYS that fascism is right wing, but I don't believe them" which plays throughout. Then, listing scholars who "can't define fascism" he completely ignores Umberto Eco.

And thanks for the C2C link. Gotta post more though:

RIGHT BIAS
These media sources are moderately to strongly biased toward conservative causes through story selection and/or political affiliation. They may utilize strong loaded words (wording that attempts to influence an audience by using appeal to emotion or stereotypes), publish misleading reports, and omit information that may damage conservative causes. Some sources in this category may be untrustworthy. See all Right Bias sources.
  • Overall, we rate the C2C Journal Right Biased based on editorial positions that consistently align with conservative/libertarian perspectives. We also rate them Mostly Factual rather than High due to a lack of transparency in disclosing ownership by the Manning Foundation.

Detailed Report
Bias Rating: RIGHT (6.7)
Factual Reporting: MOSTLY FACTUAL (3.6)
Country: Canada
MBFC’s Country Freedom Rating: EXCELLENT
Media Type: Magazine
Traffic/Popularity: Minimal Traffic
MBFC Credibility Rating: MEDIUM CREDIBILITY
 

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Oh yes, the Left is never guilty of being fascist. They never use force to suppress opposition, they never attack an individual as a group, while simultaneously claiming that said individual is bullying them. There's nothing at all fascist about 'cancel culture'. Some of them even believe that Trans people are a race.

Both the Left and Right use many of the same tactics. To believe otherwise is naive.
 

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Oh yes, the Left is never guilty of being fascist. They never use force to suppress opposition, they never attack an individual as a group, while simultaneously claiming that said individual is bullying them. There's nothing at all fascist about 'cancel culture'. Some of them even believe that Trans people are a race.

Both the Left and Right use many of the same tactics. To believe otherwise is naive.
Careful...causing leftists to come to terms with their hypocrisy will earn you some scorn! Lol!
 
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