Sex and the City Hall--- from the Star
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The fact that, in this case, the fearless crusaders for public virtue and purity work for such a red rag as the Star is a reminder of something important: The Left, for all its faux-libertine, Sex and the City chatter, is at least as predisposed to a good old-fashioned moral hygiene crusade as any of the religious people who complain about Janet Jackson's bo0by on the Right. In fact, anti-sex crusades of the Left are all the more pernicious in that they manage to disguise themselves as something else (in this case: criticism of government greed, a diagnosis of a broken regulatory regime, a concern for public health, an attempt to protect innocents from being exploited, etc.).
What I found laughable is the following:
"Ten out of 10 want some form of sex. Once they get in that room they ask you for everything."
It's a job that Michelle says has lowered her opinion of men.
"They're scum. I hate them," she says.
Does she has a choice to quit ? I mean, get a job where she has to declare all her income and customers have to pay the GST , and bbking and someone will be happy ?
"Ten out of 10 want some form of sex. Once they get in that room they ask you for everything."
It's a job that Michelle says has lowered her opinion of men.
"They're scum. I hate them," she says.
Does she has a choice to quit ? I mean, get a job where she has to declare all her income and customers have to pay the GST , and bbking and someone will be happy ?
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She's surprised and disillusioned to suddenly discover that men want sex - after she's got a job working in a massage parlour? But it's all those other girls who have mental problems, not her.
And 70% are drug addicts? Did she conduct a survey?
And 70% are drug addicts? Did she conduct a survey?
The "we want to stop them, but there's nothing we can do" excuses they give are kind of lame. If they really wanted to get rid of them, wouldn't they have done something already, instead of continuing to hand out licences for so many years?
Do you have anything to support this claim? How about a link to a public opinion poll? Anything at all?Truncador said:
Not all the writers on the Star are left wing. The sex trade gets exposed periodically by news organizations of every stripe. Stop over analyzing everything in terms of left vs right. It is just fucking stupid.
This hasn't been a left vs. right issue for a long time. The extremists on both sides are now the anti-sex ones.
On the right are the moralist religious and supposedly law and order types (like Art Hanger), who say decriminalization is an outrageously impractical loony left wing notion. But of course we can now all see it is practical from countries like us that already have it, Australia and New Zealand.
On the left are the Andrea Dworkin type of feminists who insist the sex trade is nothing but evil men exploiting helpless victimized women (see sisyphe.org), and think decriminalization is part of some sort of pro-business right wing agenda. But their numbers have decreased greatly recently, and their arguments are easily countered by the women from the sex trade who have come forward to advocate decriminalization.
BTW - I see sisyphe.org has not only kept that completely discredited and false story about the 25 year old German woman being denied benefits for refusing to work in a brothel on their site, but they have not added any notation to acknowledge that it's just an urban legend.
On the right are the moralist religious and supposedly law and order types (like Art Hanger), who say decriminalization is an outrageously impractical loony left wing notion. But of course we can now all see it is practical from countries like us that already have it, Australia and New Zealand.
On the left are the Andrea Dworkin type of feminists who insist the sex trade is nothing but evil men exploiting helpless victimized women (see sisyphe.org), and think decriminalization is part of some sort of pro-business right wing agenda. But their numbers have decreased greatly recently, and their arguments are easily countered by the women from the sex trade who have come forward to advocate decriminalization.
BTW - I see sisyphe.org has not only kept that completely discredited and false story about the 25 year old German woman being denied benefits for refusing to work in a brothel on their site, but they have not added any notation to acknowledge that it's just an urban legend.
"Last year the city spent $3.1 million licensing, inspecting and prosecuting holistic centres for flouting bylaws. Licensing fees charged to owners and practitioners, which are supposed to cover the city's administrative costs, brought in only $600,000 — a $2.5 million shortfall."
Here's a solution. Legalize it and increase your revenues. That way you are not spening $3.1M as you claim. Can you imagine the how good our street would look if the city spent $3.1M fixing those damn holes. It would save us a lot on car repairs also. No wonder our property taxes go up. They are spending our money on the wrong things!
Here's a solution. Legalize it and increase your revenues. That way you are not spening $3.1M as you claim. Can you imagine the how good our street would look if the city spent $3.1M fixing those damn holes. It would save us a lot on car repairs also. No wonder our property taxes go up. They are spending our money on the wrong things!
No, it isn't. With a hardcore fundy screaming out Bible passages, you know where you stand. A person who claims to be against sexual repression while advocating the exact same measures, under various liberal-sounding guises, as his Bible-thumping counterpart is a lot more insidious.slowpoke said:
Fortunately, radical feminism is indeed dying out and a lot of younger advocates want nothing to do with it. The problem is that many who learned their feminism from the likes of Dworkin in the 70s and 80s now occupy senior positions in the policy process around women's and criminal-justice issues. Hopefully this element will prove too fashion-conscious to hold on to it.HaywoodJabloemy said:
Extreme over analysis there, Trunc! Have you actually read the Star article? I suspect you stopped reading and started analysing (hallucinating) as soon as you saw which newspaper it was featured in. It wasn't anything like the inisidious, liberal-sounding guise you've conjured up. It was a straightforward article about tax dollars being wasted, inappropriate licensing by the city and a very superficial condemnation of the sex trade in general. Nothing worthy of all this hand wringing and pontificating. Just another slow news day type of story. I'd suggest you ask your friendly physician for a change of medication because that stuff you're taking now is making you see things that just aren't there.Truncador said:
That was exactly the liberal-sounding guise I was talking about- as I said at the outset. Not a word of what I said went beyond the letter of the article's text. In any case, hallucinating is probably better than not being able to see things that are there out of not wanting to see them.slowpoke said:
I didn't say this marks the beginning of some mass movement against sex work. I personally doubt very much that it is. But if we ever do see a sustained campaign to stamp out vice in Canada in the future, it'll be prefaced by articles exactly like that one.
It is surprising that today's left has ignored this for the time being given that it is an avenue to grow Big Government. In our political climate one would expect massive regulation leading to limited access and greatly diminished service, with a massive tax. I predict this will become an issue for the left once some do-gooder discovers that there is something known as GFE lurking in the distal regions.
Truncador said:
May God help us all when that day comes- and sadly, it will. Not only is GFE service, in particular, a bit too enlightened a concept for our bourgeois (who are much more a big bunch of Puritan pukes than they like to make themselves out to be), but modern accessible, convenient, and risk-free services such as outcall threaten to undermine a central, time-honoured instrument of social control in bourgeois society: control over access to sex by the virtuous goodwife. Once Goody Two-Shoes learns that her monopoly has been breached, we'll see groups with names like Mothers for Moral and Racial Hygiene spring up overnightPeeping Tom said:
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I suppose everyone involved in this case recognizes that taxation would comprise legal recognition, which of course the brothels adamantly want (even at the cost of losing money), and which the State does not want to confer (even at the cost of losing money). Hmm.
Politicians don't want to be seen as condoning prostitution, because they're afraid of people who call it immoral. Yet...
http://www.nzherald.co.nz/index.cfm?ObjectID=3509357
http://www.nzherald.co.nz/index.cfm?ObjectID=3509357
Why do Canadians think a two-faced system is okay?
