Seriously Disturbing Email

[kara]

So I get this email. a little unusual butr nothing to far fetched...

Hi Kara
> >
> > I am a freelance film producer and am in the process of hiring up to 12
> > women for a special smoking fetish film I wish to produce. If you smoke
>I
> > would like hire you. The minimum payment would be $20000. Further
>details
> > will be given you you wish to find out more.
> >
> > Thanks.
> >
> > Brian

other than the fees offered I did'nt see the big deal I do not smoke but will cater to that fetish....so no biggie I send back this (having been given the run around before)

why me? also I would expect some funds upfront to show a commitment not
>simply after shot and I only take cash>


I get this back...and I literally had to read it twice


Hi Kara

My offer is a very genuine offer.I have a large smoking fetish and I wish to
make one more that will complete my collection.

The film would never be sold, rented, distributed in any way to any other
persons or source.
A contract would be signed by you and I to confirm this.

The film will consist involve you ( and up to 12 other women I am sourcing
) smoking cigarettes and cigars with girls aged 5 to 10. The mothers of each
girl would be present and gibe their full consent and approval.

$20000 dollors for non-nude smoking
$75000 dollors with all nude smoking ( you and girls )
$1million dollors for smoking sex with each girl

Hope you will consider this business offer as it is genuine.

Yours sincerely.

Brian



I am not even sure if I am more disturbed about egging on youth smoking, being nude if front of little girls or the sick fact that the mothers would give consent.. ...what do I do...hit erase? forward it somewhere? what would you do? I have the persons first and last name (but won't release it here)..... have any other ladies got this email?. I have never been put in this position before and am not sure how to handle it!


thanks guys!

 

[hambone]

I firmly believe that these type of people are simply looking for attention. My advice would be to ignore him as anything you say now will only bring more contact.

 

[Meesh]

I firmly believe that these type of people are simply looking for attention. My advice would be to ignore him as anything you say now will only bring more contact.

I strongly disagree. The police SHOULD be contacted.

Taking a chance that it is just a ploy for attention could put children at risk and that is simply not acceptable.

 

[rip_hymen]

I agree, this needs to be forwarded. Even if this is a joke it's pretty sick and disturbing that someone has that kind of imagination and would vocalize it. This sick f**k needs to be dealt with.

 

[hambone]

I strongly disagree. The police SHOULD be contacted.

Taking a chance that it is just a ploy for attention could put children at risk and that is simply not acceptable.

Yes, you are correct. I suppose I am just too naive as I wouldn't think anyone would take him seriously.

 

[Jade4u]

If it is a joke it is a very SICK joke. Send it to the police and leave it to the police to monitor this persons behaviour. It just may save some child.

 

[Meesh]

Kara

Metro Police Child Exploitation Section is (416) 808-8500

childexploitation@ext.torontopolice.on.ca

 

[kara]

wow

thankss guys
I thought I was overreacting.......I called and they want me to forward the email and give them some info about how to contact me. What do I day about my email addy....I told the person I spoke to that I was an "entertainer" he told me that;s fine, that they rely on us to help when we can about some things. I just don't want to help and all of a sudden be in trouble too.
the person I spoke seemed honest and genuine and assured me the utmost in privacy.....


I really appreciate your guys help!


Sheik what are headers? how do I do that? the last headers i knew about went on my car....thanks hun

 

[Morgan Ellis]

He`s been around for a while - I posted about him on Terb and in my journal back in January.

http://www.livejournal.com/users/bbwmorgan/66615.html

https://terb.cc/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=75857

At the time, I and a few others who he`d emailed sent his headers and other info to Scotland Yard. I can try to dig up their contact info for you, if you`d like.

I never heard much back from them after we sent in his info, but it felt good to at least try...

 

[kara]

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thanks morgan I was hoping you'd add some input...any info is appreciated
thank you!

 

[rip_hymen]

Just a thought here, and it's only a suggestion but you might want to contact your lawyer to ensure you cover your ass.

 

[kara]

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thank you

 

[K Douglas]

Even if this is a joke this guy obviously has issues. Hopefully he can get some treatment, although I wouldn't hold my breath. Kara, you did the absolutely right thing in reporting him, kudos to you.

 

[Alexis696969]

I had the same style of an email about a year ago

I reported it a/s/a/p

reporting it just might catch the bastard from harming another child .

 

[spike]

Even if it is a joke...

Regardless of whether it is a website or e-mail, it should be the same people who want to get the info and investigate the sicko.

Being in Canada, www.cybertip.ca is definitely the starting point.
https://www.cybertip.ca/en/cybertip/report_form/
1-866-658-9022


<computer geek=ON>
The message headers can help the investigators trace where the message came from - it is easy to fake the FROM: address, but not necessarily all of the servers the message had to pass through to get to your inbox. If you use Outlook, open the message and click on View then Options, this should open a dialog box and at the bottom you will see a section called "Internet headers". As long as you keep the messages, the authorities can retrieve whatever data they'll need.
<computer geek=OFF>

 

[WhaWhaWha]

So let me get this straight. This guy has done this in the past. he has been reported. And he is doing it again? And you are all sure it is the same guy? So what makes you think they will stop him a fourth time if they havent so far? Report him yes, but dont rely on the police to find their own navels with a spoon.

 

[Morgan Ellis]

He was previously using a UK email addy, hence the reason I reported him to Scotland Yard using their 'report a crime' form from their website.

I think the only thing we accomplished was getting his email addy shut down for TOS violations. Just forward his email to abuse@his email addy server, with a cc to the other contact options.

I think we can be pretty sure it's the same person based on his highly specific requests. Hard to imagine there could be two people out there with exactly the same sicko fantasy...

 

[kara]

hmmmm

oddly enough, I did;nt mention anything about reporting him to him....but when I posted he stopped emailing me. I reported it. Thanks Guys.

 

[bound&gagged]

Kara,

I literally had to read your first post twice!! Disgustedly speechless!

 

[ruck]

You know it's funny the reactions I see on this board.
Kara, that email is absolutely fucked up and what you did was absolutely the only choice in the matter.

What amazes me is the response from you fetishists.
The email didn't mention sex with the children. Just smoking while children around. Naked women around children. The sickest part of the whole thing would be the consent given by the parents of the children.

I guess what i'm amazed at is the level of fetish or limit of what is acceptable.
Absolutely, child porn or mistreatment of children is a total NO. However, I've read previous posts where people found it okay that women dress as infants and sexually please the men in some kind of fetish. I myself find that sick and twisted because of the underlying message.

Aside from the obvious reason, can anyone lend me their personal reason for thinking this guys obviously twisted fetish is any worse than that of the women dressing as babies and sexually pleasing a partner? I mean, nowhere in the email did it mention the children would be naked, participating in some kind of sex act or being mistreated besides sitting in a room full of smoking women. It is admittedly made more disturbing when the added "smoking naked and smoking sex" is added to the mix.

Let me make something abundantly clear before anyone responds with fireworks. I am totally and absolutely opposed to any mistreatment of children. I am equally disgusted with this email and would have reported him in a heartbeat. I also find infantism fetishes equally disturbing because of the uderlying message. Yes it's role play, but some things should not be delved into. Even in this day and age, some things should and are taboo.