Securing the border.

[danmand]

Everybody is talking about securing the border, sending military to the border, because that is what Trump wants.

I think this is pure nonsense. It is up to every country to secure it's own border. How can Canada secure the border of USA? Is Canada supposed to provide troops to do the work of USA border inspectors?

And, if Mexico and Canada has to do the border security for USA, who is going to secure the sea borders?


In any event, Trump has been very clear that only if Canada agrees to become the 51st state will the tariffs disappear.

 

[rgkv]

In any event, Trump has been very clear that only if Canada agrees to become the 51st state will the tariffs disappear.

No way buddy, not if I can help it

 

[JohnLarue]

Everybody is talking about securing the border, sending military to the border, because that is what Trump wants.

it is in our best interest to control our borders

I think this is pure nonsense. It is up to every country to secure it's own border. How can Canada secure the border of USA? Is Canada supposed to provide troops to do the work of USA border inspectors?

if no fentanyl / precursors enter our country illegally, then fewer of our citizens will die and your nemesis Trump loses his absurd excuse to economically hurt our country

And, if Mexico and Canada has to do the border security for USA, who is going to secure the sea borders?

the navy

In any event, Trump has been very clear that only if Canada agrees to become the 51st state will the tariffs disappear.

you have zero clarity on what the condition are for tariff removal

you got so freaked out you started imagined U.S. marines marching through Canadian streets and you started a witch hunt for "collaborators."
just like the witch hunt for Alberta "Traitors" that died out when Quebec declared they were not going to let Trudeau's Team Canada screw their province


I get that you are freaked because the failures of your ideology are being exposed
attack / challenge me on my views to your hearts content.

i have been very clear, i preferred Trump did not run again
i have been very clear,, Trump is mean spirited , nasty and vindictive

do not demean yourself by stooping so low to call your countrymen traitors , because the failures of your ideology are be being exposed
Have some self respect

 

[bazokajoe]

Everybody is talking about securing the border, sending military to the border, because that is what Trump wants.

I think this is pure nonsense. It is up to every country to secure it's own border. How can Canada secure the border of USA? Is Canada supposed to provide troops to do the work of USA border inspectors?

And, if Mexico and Canada has to do the border security for USA, who is going to secure the sea borders?


In any event, Trump has been very clear that only if Canada agrees to become the 51st state will the tariffs disappear.

Canada does have a responsibility to secure it's borders. Why you think otherwise is confusing.
The US and Mexico have sent troops to the southern border so why can't we send troops to our border with the US?

 

[nottyboi]

it is in our best interest to control our borders




if no fentanyl / precursors enter our country illegally, then fewer of our citizens will die and your nemesis Trump loses his absurd excuse to economically hurt our country

Fentanyl precursors are not just used for Fentanyl, so you can't just go banning shit without causing harm. Even if you stop the precursors how do you stop the PRE -precursors? Even the USA has failed in this with their massive secruity state apparatus. You can prob get fentanyl in max secuirty prisons. Anyone who says fentanyl smuggling can be stopped is a moron. Its NOT POSSIBLE. a teaspoon of fentanyl can be made into hundreds of doses. and is impossible to stop.

 

[Shaquille Oatmeal]

Canada does have a responsibility to secure it's borders. Why you think otherwise is confusing.

No.
What he is saying is that it is upto Canada to determine what is appropriate and what isn't.
It isn't for Trump to demand we send however many 1000 troops to the border.
Let him deploy a million troops at his border if that is what he wants to do.

 

[Knuckle Ball]

This border problem is a made-up issue by Trump. We are going to be spending $1.3 billion to police the small amounts of fentanyl and illegal border crossings that take place now? What a complete waste of money.

 

[richaceg]

Fentanyl precursors are not just used for Fentanyl, so you can't just go banning shit without causing harm. Even if you stop the precursors how do you stop the PRE -precursors? Even the USA has failed in this with their massive secruity state apparatus. You can prob get fentanyl in max secuirty prisons. Anyone who says fentanyl smuggling can be stopped is a moron. Its NOT POSSIBLE. a teaspoon of fentanyl can be made into hundreds of doses. and is impossible to stop.

This is the lefty logic - "just give up on fight vs. fentanyl"

 

[Valcazar]

This border problem is a made-up issue by Trump.

Yes.
It's a pretext and that's it.
He isn't really hiding it well, but some people need to pretend to believe it.

 

[Klatuu]

Did PP just suggest we send troops to the border like Mexico? He thinks like a third world leader. He folded without even being in power. PP just stepped in his own poo poo.

 

[richaceg]

No.
What he is saying is that it is upto Canada to determine what is appropriate and what isn't.
It isn't for Trump to demand we send however many 1000 troops to the border.
Let him deploy a million troops at his border if that is what he wants to do.

Sure it's not up to Trump, but it's up to him to decide if his neighbors also look after his well being...

 

[richaceg]

Did PP just suggest we send troops to the border like Mexico? He thinks like a third world leader. He folded without even being in power. PP just stepped in his own poo poo.

Not so busy in the Gaza threads?

 

[Shaquille Oatmeal]

Sure it's not up to Trump, but it's up to him to decide if his neighbors also look after his well being...

That sentence makes no sense.

 

[bazokajoe]

No.
What he is saying is that it is upto Canada to determine what is appropriate and what isn't.
It isn't for Trump to demand we send however many 1000 troops to the border.
Let him deploy a million troops at his border if that is what he wants to do.

So then lets just get rid of all CBSA agents and rip down all the border crossing inspection points.
Seriously though, criminals, drugs and illegal crossings happen both ways along the border.
Have you people never heard of illegals freezing to death in the winter trying to cross where there is no legal crossing?
Never heard of the criminal activity that goes on along the Great Lake shores with smuggling, especially with the reservations?
It makes me sad that so many people take Canada's security so lightly.

 

[nottyboi]

This is the lefty logic - "just give up on fight vs. fentanyl"

No not give up on the fight, but thinking you can stop it from by controlling supply is idiotic considering the decades of failure with every other drug before it.

 

[JohnLarue]

This border problem is a made-up issue by Trump. We are going to be spending $1.3 billion to police the small amounts of fentanyl and illegal border crossings that take place now? What a complete waste of money.

you were not at all worried about the tax payers money when the teachers union decided to squeeze students and parents for more $


We need a secure border for so many reasons
An open border policy is insanity on steroids

 

[Shaquille Oatmeal]

So then lets just get rid of all CBSA agents and rip down all the border crossing inspection points.
Seriously though, criminals, drugs and illegal crossings happen both ways along the border.
Have you people never heard of illegals freezing to death in the winter trying to cross where there is no legal crossing?
Never heard of the criminal activity that goes on along the Great Lake shores with smuggling, especially with the reservations?
It makes me sad that so many people take Canada's security so lightly.

What are you talking about?
That is not what I said.
I said how Canada decides to protect and guard its border is up to us.
Not up to Trump to demand that we do this or that.
He is free to guard his border anyway he wants to.
This does not mean we dont guard or border.
Just means we deploy as many personnel as we think are necessary to secure our borders and that decision lies with us.
Not Trump.

 

[danmand]

So then lets just get rid of all CBSA agents and rip down all the border crossing inspection points.
Seriously though, criminals, drugs and illegal crossings happen both ways along the border.
Have you people never heard of illegals freezing to death in the winter trying to cross where there is no legal crossing?
Never heard of the criminal activity that goes on along the Great Lake shores with smuggling, especially with the reservations?
It makes me sad that so many people take Canada's security so lightly.

You do not understand:

USA controls what enters into USA.

Canada controls what enters into Canada

Italy controls what enters into Italy.

That is the way border crossings work, and always have worked.

It is preposterous to ask for the Canadian military to do the work of the USA Customs and Border Protection Agency. Should the Canadian military be placed under command of the USA Border Protection Agency?

 

[jalimon]

You do not understand:

USA controls what enters into USA.

Canada controls what enters into Canada

Italy controls what enters into Italy.

That is the way border crossings work, and always have worked.

It is preposterous to ask for the Canadian military to do the work of the USA Customs and Border Protection Agency. Should the Canadian military be placed under command of the USA Border Protection Agency?

But people getting through our border actually helps the US as it gets people out, peopthe US don't want either...

 

[JohnLarue]

You do not understand:
USA controls what enters into USA.
Canada controls what enters into Canada

That is the way border crossings work, and always have worked.

it is not working
there are 50,000 to 500,000 people in Canada illegally, but the govt is not sure

It is preposterous to ask for the Canadian military to do the work of the USA Customs and Border Protection Agency.

it is quite rational
far less preposterous for Canadians to expect full military protection from the US, while we let our military wither away
The only "protection' our military offers now is via the Tampons in the men's room

'We may not be number one, but we are right up there"

Should the Canadian military be placed under command of the USA Border Protection Agency?

That is not the ask