Seagate Barracuda 1TB Drives Biting The Dust

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Seagate Barracuda 1TB Drives Biting The Dust
12:40 PM - January 15, 2009 by Gavin Steacy
Source: Tom's Hardware US – Category : Internal Storage


In the wake of freezing issues with Seagate's 1.5TB drives comes yet another problem with the Barracuda 7200.11 series. Failure rates of the 1TB drives in particular are abnormally high, but Seagate has not acknowledged the problem.

Now 11 pages long, the "official" problem discussion thread on the Seagate support forums is full of users reporting problems with the ST31000340AS, the 1TB Barracuda 7200.11 drive.

One user built a 6TB RAID array three months ago. In two months, one of the drives failed. A second drive failed about a month later, and a third eight days after that. Another user had four out of five of their drives fail within 12 days of purchase. Reports of failures can also be found on other forums as well. Some data recovery and RMA centers have reported failure rates of approximately 30 to 40 percent, but Seagate has not released any official information.

The issue lies with faulty microcode in firmware version SD15, found on drives manufactured in Thailand. Generally, the drive will operate normally until the time of failure and at some point will lock up and prevent detection by the BIOS, rendering it completely unusable.

While Seagate has not publicly acknowledged the problem as of yet, they have reportedly updated the firmware on all newly manufactured drives, however the firmware cannot be update on drives that have already failed because the BIOS does not even detect them. This means that owners of affected drives require data recovery services to save their critical data.

No recall on unsold drives with the affected firmware has been issued.
 

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What happens to all the data when the thing freezes up? Is the data still retrievable somehow? Please don't say all the baby pics are lost in the twilight zone.
 
Well, I have 8 x 1TB and 2 x 1.5TB Seagate drives. The 1TB drives have been working 100% for about a year now. The 1.5 ones look fine so far. FYI, they are located in 5 of these cute boxes holding my movies, music files and etc.!

Although I love the Seagate drives more than any other brands (due to so many years of experience working with other manufactures!), I don't fully trust them either! Therefore, a daily automated backup allows me to sleep better ;)
 

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Rockslinger said:
What happens to all the data when the thing freezes up? Is the data still retrievable somehow?
Did you not read the original post? It says right in there.
 

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Keebler Elf said:
Did you not read the original post? It says right in there.
I read the original again and it talks repeatedly of "fail" so does that mean dead kaput? Is there no hope of recovery of any data? Maybe, this stuff is too technical for me to understand.
 
Rockslinger said:
What happens to all the data when the thing freezes up? Is the data still retrievable somehow? Please don't say all the baby pics are lost in the twilight zone.
According to the original post --->
jwmorrice said:
......This means that owners of affected drives require data recovery services to save their critical data......
yes, those affected would have to send the drive back to Seagate to retrieve their data files.

Again, until Seagate actually acknowledge this issue, don't give up. However, you should always backup your files, just in case.


EDIT: Sorry, didn't notice it was already answered! :D
 

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Data recovery is $1000.00 and up. Some places charge $2000.00 Back it up and you will not have to worry about that cost.
 

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Thats why I'm reluctant to buy large drives....maybe its better to have smaller like half a T. to keep your stuff on......
 
Twister said:
Thats why I'm reluctant to buy large drives....maybe its better to have smaller like half a T. to keep your stuff on......
Well, at one point or another, all hard drives die ... it's just the matter of when. So, to be safe, it's always better to have an external backup somewhere.

CD / DVD media is not really recommended. I'd suggest external hard drives for this purpose.
 

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Disturbia said:
Well, at one point or another, all hard drives die ..
Do you mean all INTERNAL harddrive die? Or, do you mean EXTERNAL HD's die as well? Eventually everything dies but are we speaking of 10 years, 100 years, 200 years, etc.?
 

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Rockslinger said:
Do you mean all INTERNAL harddrive die? Or, do you mean EXTERNAL HD's die as well? Eventually everything dies but are we speaking of 10 years, 100 years, 200 years, etc.?
All drives mean both internal and external. You never know when they may die. Some could die after a few weeks, others could last over 10 yrs. Average drive life used to be considered 5 yrs, don't know what that figure may be now. Drives all fail over time because they have moving parts in them. This will all change over the next couple years as Solid-State Drives replace them. SSDs have no moving parts and will last well over 100 yrs. SSDs are too expensive now but prices are falling as volume productions increase.

I still have my first HDD, a 5,400 rpm, 8.5G IBM drive from '97 that is only used for backup. It has a clean version of XP Pro and all my fav programs, AV, browsers, etc on it. I only use this drive now when I format the main drive to clean the crap off XP. I'll swap drives and use this old drive to reload everything onto the main drive after a format as a slave then swap drives again making it primary again and put the old drive back in storage. Doing this I can reformat my drive and copy over everything, XP and all apps, programs, etc, and be up and running again in < 1 hour instead of taking all day.
 
Rockslinger said:
Do you mean all INTERNAL harddrive die? Or, do you mean EXTERNAL HD's die as well? Eventually everything dies but are we speaking of 10 years, 100 years, 200 years, etc.?
Yes, as WoodPeckr's excellent reply, both internal or external drives will die at some point of time. Your personal data files are most important so for this very reason everyone should consider a complete backup strategy, ie; always 2 copies of each and every data file on separate drives

I agree with WoodPeckr there too. The old hard drives used to live longer than new ones. Probably, it's due to complications of making bigger drives and getting them to customers faster than competitors ... thus lower quality.
 
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