Sea commerce warfare commences?

Butler1000

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France has seized an oil taker in the Mediterranean under a false flag. Above video explains where this could lead.

Basically very badly for Russia, Iran and anyone who orders illegal oil.
 

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To be precise sanctions itself don't make sanctioned oil illegal.
It is illegal because the sanctions were imposed by the world's
biggest bully.
I agree. And now other nations are going to do it. This could kill off the shadow fleet.
 

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France has seized an oil taker in the Mediterranean under a false flag. Above video explains where this could lead.

Basically very badly for Russia, Iran and anyone who orders illegal oil.
Russia can just put demo charges in them so if they get seized 5 m bbls will leak into your waters lol
 
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Makes it even more scary that TACO Tuesday designated canada as a major fentynol supplier. He could steal our energy and natural resources for 'national security'. Maybe Carney will end up in one of those black helicopters next, yet some morons on here still applaud The diapered Don
 

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Makes it even more scary that TACO Tuesday designated canada as a major fentynol supplier. He could steal our energy and natural resources for 'national security'. Maybe Carney will end up in one of those black helicopters next, yet some morons on here still applaud The diapered Don
It's all about flagging. These Shadow fleet ships are pretty much transitioning from Iran, Venezuela and Russia to various buyers. Mostly very old and in ill repair. We don't actually I think have much in the way of flagged tankers. It will force tankers to fly legit flags, and suddenly have to come up to safety codes and employment codes if this gets out of hand.

As noted. It was France that took this one. Britain has lots of opportunities if they choose to. It's going to be interesting if this turns out not to be a blip but gets normalized to hurt Iran and Russia especially.
 

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Do they take the crews when they steal the ships ? What did they do with them when they hit the US ?
I think they let the crews go. Deport them back to whatever country they are from. Officers may be subject to penalties depending on what they do. But I think generally they will let them go too. The target is the ship and cargo. Charging crew doesn't matter.

I'm on the fence about this. Many of the ships are floating environmental disasters waiting to happen. And are arguably paying for bad things.

But more so I wonder if this is a further breakdown of trade to happen. Could container ships be next?
 

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It's all about flagging. These Shadow fleet ships are pretty much transitioning from Iran, Venezuela and Russia to various buyers. Mostly very old and in ill repair. We don't actually I think have much in the way of flagged tankers. It will force tankers to fly legit flags, and suddenly have to come up to safety codes and employment codes if this gets out of hand.

As noted. It was France that took this one. Britain has lots of opportunities if they choose to. It's going to be interesting if this turns out not to be a blip but gets normalized to hurt Iran and Russia especially.
10-18% of the tankers are dark ships. That's a lot of fucking money. Imagine how hard putins going to bitch slap Donnie the next time they meet. One thing is certain - Trump will come down with some mysterious illness soon after if and when he lives out his term 3 years from now. Vlad won't let Trumps showboating go unnoticed
 
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10-18% of the tankers are dark ships. That's a lot of fucking money. Imagine how hard putins going to bitch slap Donnie the next time they meet. One thing is certain - Trump will come down with some mysterious illness soon after if and when he lives out his term 3 years from now. Vlad won't let Trumps showboating go unnoticed
The estimate is about 1000 ships. Here is the thing. It also hurts Iran which Israel wants.

And again. It was a French seizure. So if it spreads then blame gets spread too.
 

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Do that once. And then no ship will take the oil again. You think the crews are suicidal?

Be serious.
Won't even have to sink the ship, just a small explosion to cause a hole on the side so that crude spews onto the coastline as the pirates bring the ship in. Just a few billion in ecological damage.
 
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