Sad.....

[the rusty tromb]

Mike Tyson just lost by 6th round TKO to Kevin Mcbride.

It's really sad considering that Mcbride is the kind of fighter Tyson would have startched in less than a round when he was in his prime.

Right from the start Tyson looked like he had no interest in fighting at all, as you could tell from the first few moments of the fight when Mike came out very passive, instead of his usual bulldozer style of trying to take his opponent out right away.

During the post fight interview with Jim Gray, Tyson said he has zero interest in fighting right now and is simply doing it to pay off his debts.

Hopefully Mike retires now. I think he'd make a great trainer, and what network wouldn't pay him millions for his own reality show.

A very sad and depressing night when you consider how great Tyson once was.

 

[GIMME]

Hopefully Mike retires now. I think he'd make a great trainer, and what network wouldn't pay him millions for his own reality show.

Can't imagine Tyson training, and reality show? He's a great fighter, real street brawler, but thats about it. Can't see him training people, he might get pissed at them and beat them to a pulp. As for the reality show, it would have to be something like the UFC one. Otherwise he won't be good.

 

[Asterix]

It's no surprise that Tyson's hero was Sonny Liston. Both were bullies at heart who quit when someone finally stood up to them. Boxing will be better off without him.

 

[to-guy69]

Tyson has been a "has been" for quite some time now despite 5 years of greatness way back in the mid to late 80s. At 39, it's time to hang em up...

 

[Kev]

Mike Tyson just lost by 6th round TKO to Kevin Mcbride.

It's really sad considering that Mcbride is the kind of fighter Tyson would have startched in less than a round when he was in his prime.

Right from the start Tyson looked like he had no interest in fighting at all, as you could tell from the first few moments of the fight when Mike came out very passive, instead of his usual bulldozer style of trying to take his opponent out right away.

During the post fight interview with Jim Gray, Tyson said he has zero interest in fighting right now and is simply doing it to pay off his debts.

Hopefully Mike retires now. I think he'd make a great trainer, and what network wouldn't pay him millions for his own reality show.

A very sad and depressing night when you consider how great Tyson once was.

Tyson was never great. If he fought a few years earlier he would have had his clocked cleaned. At best he was a tough thug. Nothing more. When he met a real fighter he resorted to inhuman acts of cowardice. I have zero respect for him. Good riddance Mikey.

 

[slowandeasy]

It's really sad considering that Mcbride is the kind of fighter Tyson would have startched in less than a round when he was in his prime.

The reaction to Tyson above is dead on... Tyson is/was a bully in it's purest form.

Sad is not a word that I would use to describe Tyson..... only because the guy had the world by the balls.... he was at the pinnacle of his sport, feared and respected by all.... in his prime he probably was making hundreds of millions/year... could have done whatever he wanted, maybe even gotten some therapy for his problems... instead he chose to beat up his wife, rape women, frighten children etc...

This dumb fuck finally has an opportunity to show some character in the face of adversity and throws in the towel against a journeyman boxer. I believe that Tyson could still dominate a very thin heavyweight division... I almost felt sorry for Tyson when he said "I am not an animal anymore".... then I realized just how much of a gutless bully he was in the past.

Mike Tyson is not deserving of any sympathy

 

[Keebler Elf]

Tyson was never great.

That's a pretty ridiculous comment to make.

Whether you like him or not, Tyson defined boxing in the mid-late '80s.

On another note, why doesn't Tyson just declare bankruptcy? Why does he need to keep fighting (I read another 7 fights just to pay off his $40 debt)? Why not just hang it up? He's not making any money for himself in these fights and his heart isn't in it so why bother?

 

[Asterix]

Tyson was lucky to have Cus D'Amato guide him through the early part of his career, who had demonstrated when managing Floyd Patterson his skill in not letting his fighter take risks in choice of opponents. Nearly the first 30 professional opponents Tyson faced were journeymen, their names forgotten almost as soon as the fights were done. By the time he faced Williams, Spinks and Holmes they were all passed their prime. Tyson perpetrated probably the most cowardly act in heavyweight history in his fight with Holyfield. The man was a bully, pure and simple, and doesn't deserve being included with boxings greats. Last night he quit on his stool. Sonny would understand.

 

[Kev]

That's a pretty ridiculous comment to make.

Whether you like him or not, Tyson defined boxing in the mid-late '80s.

A list compiled by Ring Magazine listed the best 80 boxers of the last 80 years (thats all weight classes) Mike Tyson is 72 on the list. If he was so great it should be higher. Don't you agree?

http://boxing.about.com/od/history/a/ring_80_best.htm

 

[franky66]

That's a pretty ridiculous comment to make.

Whether you like him or not, Tyson defined boxing in the mid-late '80s.

On another note, why doesn't Tyson just declare bankruptcy? Why does he need to keep fighting (I read another 7 fights just to pay off his $40 debt)? Why not just hang it up? He's not making any money for himself in these fights and his heart isn't in it so why bother?

and you still dont know why he quit? He really doesnt give a sh...

He got his money. Think about it.

Tyson was one the best fighters who ever lived. Only an idiot will deny that. As for him being one of the greatest boxers ever? That is an entirely different matter.

PS: I didnt know Donovan Razor Ruddock was a bum who couldnt fight. Tyson fought a few very good boxers but I guess I dont know much about boxing.

PPS: Tyson gave as good as he got against Holyfield who was headbutting him every round. It was Mr Holierthanthoughfield who resorted to underhanded tactics to beat Tyson. He couldnt try that with Lennox though. Lennox was too tall. Hahahahaha!

 

[franky66]

The greatest 80 boxers of the last 80 years (thats all weight classes) Mike Tyson is listed as 72 on the list. It seems people who know what there talking about agree with me.

http://boxing.about.com/od/history/a/ring_80_best.htm

Ever heard about something called subjectivity?

There will be those who think OJ wasnt all that good....and...why? because he is tarnished.

The day an MJ or a Gretzky kills a load of people you will see how quickly people turn not only on them but their greatness.

PS: Not saying Mike should be in the top 30 or 40. I am just putting forth another point of view.

 

[Asterix]

You have a point. For instance, I don't see LaMotta coming in at #52 without Scorsese.

 

[papasmerf]

Let me see.... It is sad to see a RAPIST, WIFE BEATER, CHEATING son of a bitch retire.


Must have missed someting.

 

[the rusty tromb]

What would make him such a good trainer? Undisciplined, irresponsible and a front runner who never showed much ability to pull things out in a tough fight.

Mike has tremendous boxing knowledge. I'm not saying he'd be a great trainer for sure, but he definitely has the background and knowledge for it.

 

[dylansbob]

Beautiful- Asterix said it all

Tyson was lucky to have Cus D'Amato guide him through the early part of his career, who had demonstrated when managing Floyd Patterson his skill in not letting his fighter take risks in choice of opponents. Nearly the first 30 professional opponents Tyson faced were journeymen, their names forgotten almost as soon as the fights were done. By the time he faced Williams, Spinks and Holmes they were all passed their prime. Tyson perpetrated probably the most cowardly act in heavyweight history in his fight with Holyfield. The man was a bully, pure and simple, and doesn't deserve being included with boxings greats. Last night he quit on his stool. Sonny would understand.

And don't forget Kevin Rooney's inluence until Tyson fired him

and Frankly 66....."Tyson was one the best fighters who ever lived. Only an idiot will deny that. As for him being one of the greatest boxers ever? That is an entirely different matter.".....lol.....I think you contradicted yourself

 

[dylansbob]

Kev- that list is fucked....

A list compiled by Ring Magazine listed the best 80 boxers of the last 80 years (thats all weight classes) Mike Tyson is 72 on the list. If he was so great it should be higher. Don't you agree?

http://boxing.about.com/od/history/a/ring_80_best.htm

Henry Armstrong ahead of Mohammad Ali ??????...lol....c'mon! I was never a fan of Mike Tyson....but he was head and tails better than Armstrong!

 

[Breeze]

Its a myth put forth by the media that Tyson is a frontrunner quits in the face of adversity.

The Douglas fight he was losing quite decisively and fought on until he got knocked out. After the fight Douglas said it was almost inhumane how much punches he said he had to throw to stop Tyson because he kept coming.

The first Holyfield fight he was also losing decisively and fought on till Holyfield stopped him.

The second Holyfield fight, Mike just snapped. Holyfield (as usual) was fighting dirty. Tyson complained to the ref, and the ref did nothing. I obviously don't condone what Tyson did, but the perception he quit because he was losing is bogus.

Even Lennox Lewis later said when he fought Holyfield that Holyfield hit him with an intentinal headbutt, and said that he didn't agree with what Tyson did, but he could understand WHY he did it.

Tyson is in fact a great fighter. The youngest heavyweight champion ever, and 2 time world champ. However, he had a very short but explosive prime

 

[Kev]

Ever heard about something called subjectivity?

There will be those who think OJ wasnt all that good....and...why? because he is tarnished.

The day an MJ or a Gretzky kills a load of people you will see how quickly people turn not only on them but their greatness.

PS: Not saying Mike should be in the top 30 or 40. I am just putting forth another point of view.

Ever heard about something called subjectivity? YUP!!

The website i posted mentioned that not everyone is going to agree with the top 80 they chose, however even if you were to move Tyson up a few places he still wouldn't be ranked as one of the greatest. A good boxer yes, absolutely, but not great. Lets reserve that word for those who are deserving. Ali, Sugar Ray Robinson, and the like.

 

[Asterix]

Sorry Breeze, I don't buy it. In the Douglas fight Tyson hung around to the end because Douglas shouldn't have been in a position to win in the first place. The man was a 40-1 underdog for a reason, which has to be unprecedented in a title fight. By the way, in the days afterwards Tyson claimed that when he knocked Douglas to the canvas in the eighth, that Douglas hadn't beaten the count, and that he should still be champ. Tyson finally backed down, but managed to display his complete lack of class in the process.

As far as dirty fighting, Tyson's actions in the sixth round last night were pathetic. After trying to break McBride's arm during a clinch, next a low blow and then desperately head butting him more than once, Tyson gave up. All this against a fighter who had beaten no one of note. A sad but predictable ending indeed.

 

[Asterix]

I think you've listened to the schills at HBO way too much. Let me explain this to you, they wanted you to think he was the greatest so you would watch his fights and they'd make more money.

And in the 60's the powers that be tried even harder to make people think Ali wasn't. Amazing to listen to some of the original commentators refer to his style as "awkward" and "jerky". What were they thinking.