S&P 500 - Insiders selling BIG TIME

james t kirk

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Insiders sell like there's no tomorrow
Corporate officers and directors were buying stock when the market hit bottom. What does it say that they're selling now?

Stocks have rallied -- but corporate officers and directors are now selling after buying the dip.

NEW YORK (Fortune) -- Can hundreds of stock-selling insiders be wrong?

The stock market has mounted an historic rally since it hit a low in March. The S&P 500 is up 55%, as U.S. job losses have slowed and credit markets have stabilized.

But against that improving backdrop, one indicator has turned distinctly bearish: Corporate officers and directors have been selling shares at a pace last seen just before the onset of the subprime malaise two years ago.

While a wave of insider selling doesn't necessarily foretell a stock market downturn, it suggests that those with the first read on business trends don't believe current stock prices are justified by economic fundamentals.

"It's not a very complicated story," said Charles Biderman, who runs market research firm Trim Tabs. "Insiders know better than you and me. If prices are too high, they sell."

Biderman, who says there were $31 worth of insider stock sales in August for every $1 of insider buys, isn't the only one who has taken note. Ben Silverman, director of research at the InsiderScore.com web site that tracks trading action, said insiders are selling at their most aggressive clip since the summer of 2007.

Silverman said the "orgy of selling" is noteworthy because corporate insiders were aggressive buyers of the market's spring dip. The S&P 500 dropped as low as 666 in early March before the recent rally took it back above 1,000.

"That was a great call," Silverman said. "They were buying when prices were low, so it makes sense to look at what they're doing now that prices are higher."

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In the case of firms such as discount broker TD Ameritrade (AMTD), they are selling with abandon. Chairman Joe Moglia has netted more than $10 million in profits from stock sales since April, by selling shares on each of the last 106 business days, according to Securities and Exchange Commission filings.

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A TD Ameritrade spokeswoman said Moglia's sales are being made under a pre-arranged selling plan he filed with the SEC last August. Under that plan, his brokers exercise some options he got eight years ago and sell the underlying shares every day the company's stock price is above a certain level.

Moglia's not the only insider selling at TD Ameritrade. The company's founder and former chairman, Joe Ricketts, and his wife Marlene last month sold 5.7 million shares to help fund the family's purchase of the Chicago Cubs baseball team. They owned 16% of the company's stock at last count.

Silverman said the TD Ameritrade insider sales don't particularly raise concerns about the company's health, because "special circumstances" -- the Cubs deal and the pending expiration of Moglia's options -- are evident.

He said it's potentially more worrisome when insiders suddenly make big sales without obvious motivating factors.

Fossil (FOSL) CEO Tom Kartsotis has sold $25 million of the watchmaker's stock over the past month. Shares of Fossil have more than doubled since early March. Fossil didn't immediately return a call seeking comment.

At video game maker Activision Blizzard (ATVI), CEO Robert Kotick and director Brian Kelly each made more than $10 million last month by selling shares after exercising stock options.

While some of Kotick's options were due to expire next year, others weren't due to expire until 2014 in his case and 2012 in Kelly's. The stock sales took place at prices that were about 50% above their 52-week low. Activision didn't respond to a request for comment.

Adding to the flurry of stock sales, companies are selling stock to the public at a brisk clip while buybacks have tailed off. All told, U.S. corporations have been net sellers of $105 billion of stock over the past four months, Biderman said.

http://money.cnn.com/2009/09/10/news/economy/insider.sales/index.htm?postversion=2009091107
 

james t kirk

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Interesting.

I still remember John Roth selling Nortel just before they missed their earning estimates.
 

danmand

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It is truly criminal that so many from Nortel were never prosecuted and convicted.
What about BCI selling Nortel short to the tune of $2B.
 

OddSox

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Herd mentality - means nothing.

PS: You think these guys are smart? Remember Bre-X.
 
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Rockslinger

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This is a little worrisome but the real worry is when you see a bunch of IPO's and takeovers. IPO's and takeovers are still fairly rare, although Dollarama is doing an IPO now.
 

Doctor Zoidburg

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September in many years you will see a dip before the rise, it could be profit taking. Then you can buy back at a lower price.
 

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Sounds like profit taking. Simple: buy low, sell high. Market is high, they are selling. Last year when it was low, they were buying.

Oh, and OddSox, insiders means they work for the company's who's stock they are buying/selling, not that they are professional traders. Bre-X insiders made a killing, and were never prosecuted.
 

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When there's that kind of mass exodus, raises a few eyebrows, most wouldn't sell if they didn't think something was up, with earnings due out next month or so, maybe they don't like the look of the numbers. If earnings are good this time the markets should explode, if they're not, it will probably go the other way, so I don't think they would be selling now of their earnings are good. People are getting tired of less bad news, and have continually been told the economy is improving, if there's bad news come out, run to the exits IMO.

Japan seems to be imploding as the stimulis wears off, something still doesn't feel right.

Americans have no money, they ALL lived of the equity in their homes and now that's gone, 25% of the people who bought in the cash for clunkers are having buyers remorse because it added another 400$ a month payment they don't have, along with higher monthly insurance premiums for the car.
 

BallzDeep

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I just don't think these guys/gals would sell if they thought there was only a 7-10% correction coming, most would hold on to ease the concerns of their shareholders.
 

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They are worried about what RED China may do.

RED China could pull the rug out from under the USA and US Dollar.
 

BallzDeep

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They are worried about what RED China may do.

RED China could pull the rug out from under the USA and US Dollar.
If they did that, what would happen, would their currency be worthless like Zimbabwe or just much less?:confused:
 

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If they did that, what would happen, would their currency be worthless like Zimbabwe or just much less?:confused:
Not really China,s biggest trading partner is the EU ,by calling in their red ink in the US,their own investment in the US would collapse even further than they have already have but a lot of Chinese investment money is now going into London and EU as a result of the meltdown.

The yuan might even rise higher against the dollar
=willie
 

Rockslinger

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TSX is still going up. Am still waiting for the correction.
A lot of people are expecting a correction which probably means there won't be a correction. Corrections and bear markets occur when the least people expect one. Remember there is still lots of cash on the sideline.
 
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