Russia signals possibility of Ukraine peace talks but onus is on Trump to make first move

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its about time, Trump will make the move. I'm sure Putin can't wait for this war to stop.


Russia is willing to work with President-elect Donald Trump to help improve relations with Ukraine so long as the U.S. makes the first move, Kremlin officials said this week, adding fresh momentum for the possibility of peace talks as its war in Ukraine threatens to stretch into a third year.

Speaking to reporters Thursday in Moscow, Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov reiterated that Russia could be ready to come to the negotiating table regarding its "special military operation" in Ukraine— echoing the phrasing used by the Kremlin to describe its war in Ukraine — so long as the U.S. acted first.

"If the signals that are coming from the new team in Washington to restore the dialogue that Washington interrupted after the start of a special military operation [the war in Ukraine] are serious, of course, we will respond to them," Lavrov said in Moscow.

But he stressed that the U.S. should move first, telling reporters that "the Americans broke the dialogue, so they should make the first move."

His remarks come after Trump's pick for Ukraine envoy, retired Lieutenant-General Keith Kellogg, told Fox News in an interview this month that both Russia and Ukraine appear to be willing to negotiate an end to the war — citing heavy casualties, damage to critical infrastructure, and a general sense of exhaustion that has permeated both countries as the war drags well past the thousand-day mark.

"I think both sides are ready," Kellogg said in the interview. "After a thousand days of war, with 350,000, 400,000 Russian [soldiers] down, and 150,000 Ukrainian dead, or numbers like that — both sides are saying, ‘okay, maybe this is the time, and we need to step back.’"

To date, Russia has lost tens of thousands of soldiers in the war. As of this fall, an average of 1,200 soldiers were killed or injured per day, according to U.S. estimates.

In Ukraine, the country's energy infrastructure has seen extreme damage as the result of a protracted Russian bombing campaign, designed to collapse portions of the power grid, plunge the country into darkness, and ultimately, wear down the resolve of the Ukrainian people.

Most recently, Russia launched a Christmas Day bombardment against Ukraine's power grid, directing some 70 cruise and ballistic missiles and 100 strike drones to hit critical energy infrastructure in the country.

Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy said the Christmas Day timing was a "deliberate" choice by Putin. "What could be more inhuman?" he said in a statement.

Meanwhile, Ukraine's military has lost around 40% of the land it seized in Russia's Kursk region — a loss that could further erode morale.

 

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Joe Rogan Cowers with Fear as His BS Narrative Gets SHUT DOWN
In response to Joe Rogan accusing Ukraine of being responsible for the start of WWIII, if/when it happens, legendary Ukrainian boxer and the brother to the mayor of Kyiv, Wladimir Klitschko, called out Rogan and challenged him to have a real conversation about Putin's unjustifiable invasion instead of falling in line with MAGA and blindly spewing the pro-Russian propaganda they can't help but lap up.

 
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By throwing Ukraine under the Russian bus and giving Putin a win?
Any terms and agreements of a ceasefire Trump manages
to pull off would in all likelihood be nowhere
near as humiliating to Ukraine as those of the armistice
imposed by Germany on France in WWII. If you agree France
did the right thing to surrender to Hitler then it is reasonable
to hope for the success of Trump's peacemaking efforts.
 

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Joe Rogan Cowers with Fear as His BS Narrative Gets SHUT DOWN
In response to Joe Rogan accusing Ukraine of being responsible for the start of WWIII, if/when it happens, legendary Ukrainian boxer and the brother to the mayor of Kyiv, Wladimir Klitschko, called out Rogan and challenged him to have a real conversation about Putin's unjustifiable invasion instead of falling in line with MAGA and blindly spewing the pro-Russian propaganda they can't help but lap up.

He's equating Biden's escalating of a war in his last days in office with Trump not commuting death row sentences in his last days during first term, calling it a ''killing spree'...LOL.

The most important thing here is for this war to end or at the least pause for negotiation. Klitschko seems really convinced that Putin would never follow through with any of his nuclear threats. Klitschko wants those long range weapons badly. Better not call this a proxy war cause that's Russian propaganda,lol...As a matter of fact you better not question financing and supplying this war at all or you're going to be labelled a Russian propagandist.
 
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He's equating Biden's escalating of a war in his last days in office with Trump not commuting death row sentences in his last days during first term, calling it a ''killing spree'...LOL.

The most important thing here is for this war to end or at the least pause for negotiation. Klitschko seems really convinced that Putin would never follow through with any of his nuclear threats. Klitschko wants those long range weapons badly. Better not call this a proxy war cause that's Russian propaganda,lol...As a matter of fact you better not question financing and supplying this war at all or you're going to be labelled a Russian propagandist.
It's evident that Oil and you support Putin and after Trump gives Putin the win Putin will be able to rearm himself and prepare for the next military operation.
 

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Define support...
The wish to cut off aid which isn't of late, has always been the same nonsense spewed by the right.
The hatred for Zelenski who has had a madman attack his country because he couldn't be controlled by this said madman

Putin fits the righty's vision of a strongman who is against gays. pretends to be religious and supposedly rides horses topless.
 

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The wish to cut off aid which isn't of late, has always been the same nonsense spewed by the right.
The hatred for Zelenski who has had a madman attack his country because he couldn't be controlled by this said madman

Putin fits the righty's vision of a strongman who is against gays. pretends to be religious and supposedly rides horses topless.
What a mish mash of comments,lol...

Our deficit under Mr.Trudeau is 62 billion dollars at least...How far do you want to contribute to an unwinnable war?

Are you personally donating or contributing financially since you're such a believer.
 

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It's evident that Oil and you support Putin and after Trump gives Putin the win Putin will be able to rearm himself and prepare for the next military operation.
Armistice would also enable Ukraine to rearm and to rebuild its
army to defend itself from future invasion. If NATO hss the will
Ukraine's military can be strengthened sufficiently for them to
fight back. Putin has been significantly weakened. Russia is too
destitute to rearm to the level needed to invade again.
 
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