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I have done a great deal of business on EBay over the last 4 years as both a buyer and a seller and after several hundred transactions I finally got ripped off. I am surprised it didn't happen sooner. Bought an item on auction that I wanted for one of my kids. After winning the seller said they needed a money order and not PayPal. Now I know BIG FUCKING RED FLAG!!! PayPal has ways that buyers can recover some costs (if not all) from disreputable dealers. But I needed this item so I sent a money order. Took 22 days to ship from Ohio. I know ANOTHER BIG FUCKING RED FLAG!!! Finally arrived and it was a piece of shit. Broken and missing parts it will never work. Tried to contact seller for refund or exchange and no answer. I know ANOTHER BIG FUCKING RED FLAG!!! Today found out that the seller is no longer registered with ebay. There are, at least, 100 people who were ripped off by this seller. We all recieved broken crap and seller disappears. According to EBay this happens from time to time when a seller cashs in, sells the leftovers over a short period, and then takes off. I am only out a small amount but it still stings. Moral of the story is "ONLY DEAL IN PAYPAL OR SOME OTHER REPUTABLE INTERNET BANKING SOURCE". The money order should have been the giveaway. No way to get that money back. Oh well, EBAY still at 99% in my book which is OK, but it still stings.
 
There is a guy on ebay that is selling Chicago Bears season and single game tickets. Everything looks legit until you get to the part about paying. It says have tickets in hand, will ship tickets as soon as the money is recieved. Nobody even has tickets yet they dont get sent out by the Bears until late July. this dude gets reporte3d all the time but i guess he just comes back under a different name and trys to rip people off again.:mad:
 
I've never felt comfortable using ebay, it's cumbersome. I prefer craigslist, easier to use and free.
 
I had a similar experience with a "power seller" in Hamilton, Ontario who specified money order for payment of merchandise. I received nothing after payment. Phoned & emailed numerous times which they simply ignored. Ebay wasn't much help & I exhausted all complaint/grievance channels.
To add insult to injury, the power seller registered & operated under a new name in 2006 while abandoning the old which had accummulated tons of complaints.
The moral of the story:
1. Never buy from seller who specifies money order.
2. Never buy from seller who has a lot of negative feedbacks.
Aside from this only bad experience, I have had a lot of satisfactory transactions.
 
too bad too many sellers no longer uses PayPal... and the number is growing every year. I'm also a buyer and seller on eBay for many years.

I got gypped by someone from HongKong selling CF media. It's been 1.5 months and the product hasn't arived (yet?) I filed a claim to PayPal, now it's been 30 days, I still haven't received my money back from PayPal. (they are still "investigating". Dunno what to investigate, the seller clearly gave PayPal a non-existent tracking number.

So PayPal is no help either :(
 
monkeychan said:
too bad too many sellers no longer uses PayPal.(
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Costs way too much to use Paypal and Ebay together. Ebay fees are super high, and Paypal increases them beyond reality. Ebay's stock has been taking HUGE hits with Paypal competitors and their most ridiculous acquisition Skype. The many people joining Paypal are outside North America., not inside. Ebay allows an epidemic level of bootlegs, worse than a spread of SARS. Ebay profits from each and every bootleg that is sold and listed. They claim they can't police the system. Horseshit. China has many Ebay sellers, but ZERO Ebay buyers.

I think it's about time Ebay gets shut down once and for all. Ebay's design was to thwart the web-programmers business and make everyone think it's difficult to create a website, everyone is not to be trusted on-line and Ebay is God. Well, may their stock drop to $.50 a share. If I could spit on Meg Whitman, I would, but I already had delicious Chinese Spearribs (she looks like a sow).

It's also difficult to sell porn on Ebay. Americans should be jacking off like mad, you'd expect.

Because of Ebay, there are less millionaires in the world.

Gyaos.
 
Please excuse my ignorance but....

Isnt there a serial # or tracking # on money orders?
 
Use the Ebay dispute process. Just make sure to do so promptly as their is a struct time limit (and it's even shorter for Paypal).
 
Gyaos said:
Costs way too much to use Paypal and Ebay together. Ebay fees are super high, and Paypal increases them beyond reality. Ebay's stock has been taking HUGE hits with Paypal competitors and their most ridiculous acquisition Skype.
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http://www.globeinvestor.com/servlet/story/RTGAM.20060706.webaytrouble0706/GIStory/

It's interesting CNBC did a report on ebay that showed their back office being disorganized. It's really not rocket science what they do but they seem to have confusion, lots of employees whereas craigslist in which ebay owns 20% operates with fewser than 50.
 
I understand your frustration with the situation, but as a seller and buyer I also will not accept Paypal for when I sell due to the high fees that cut into my margins. When I buy I will use it if the seller accepts it because the seller is the one who pays not the buyer.

As a seller I prefer Western Union. This gives the buyer some recourse should there be a problem and he is paying the fees. Personally my feedback rating is 99.6% the one negative that I got was from a buyer who was pissed at me for posting a negative on him after 60 days of no response and no payment for an article. He then admitted that he didn't pay for it and wanted it right away still and wanted me to correct the feedback. I did add an explanation to the comment but that wasn't good enough he wanted it retracted.

When EBay finally came up with a way to change the original posting it was well beyond the time frame to do it. Something like 11 months. This yahoo hounded me for the whole time for his mistake.

So do not assume it is a red flag for someone who only accepts M/O's It may only mean he is protecting himself. The only issue I have had with a m/o was the U.S. Postal orders that are marked clearly FOR DOMESTIC USE ONLY. They cannot be cashed in Canada. So I make that very clear on all my listings that I will not accept those. If someone sends me one of those I return it at my expense to them.

Not all Sellers are crooks although you do still have to be careful. I have bought thousands of dollars worth of goods and sold thousands of dollars worth of goods with only the one problem. Oh and he was a Canadian as well for the record.
 
Well, I've been using ebay for years and the only time I ever had a problem, it was rectified immediately. I do not and will not EVER send a money order for something because that is no different than sending cash through a courier. There is NO way to get it back....Banks and the Post Office will tell you the same thing.

I can understand the seller's frustration with the fee structure but, well, you don't HAVE to sell on ebay now do you? If the money or profit isn't there, then go elsewhere. As with SP pricing, either someone offers a better product for your dollar and you have to adjust accordingly or you go out of business.

People love to knock ebay but no matter what anyone says, or complains about them, they offer an amazing service, with some protection, that billions enjoy.

Just remember napster which started the music sharing industry. Do you think IPOD or all the other MP3 players would be around if napster didn't? Sure, it is easy now to cash in on ebay's innovation but they were the first.

FYI: I've probably saved myself approx. $5000.00 in my purchases over the past 3 yrs. IMHO ebay is da BOMB!!!
 
Yeah, I haven't had any problems so far as a buyer on Ebay. Have bought some really rare items that you just can't get through traditional channels.

Ebay bridged a gap:

Buyer: Find stuff you can't find anymore or anywhere else
Seller: Get rid of stuff you don't want anymore and no one locally wants it

But you gotta watch out for the ratings, both buyer and seller. Make sure there's a good number of ratings, and 98% or more positive feedback.
 
I have used Ebay quite a few times myself as a buyer and have not run into any problems as of yet. Phew!

Although there are some gripes I have about using ebay;

1) First off, how sellers use 'stock' photos to sell their items. I mean for Christ sake's digital cameras are becoming dirt cheap now so it wouldn't kill a seller to take a photo or two of the actual item they are selling as opposed to stealing a stock photo from a website. How hard is it?

2) I will never buy from a seller unless he is using Paypal. I don't care how legit the seller is I prefer Paypal over Western Union or any other type of money order.

3) Then you have those Nigerian scammers asking the seller to send the item to Nigeria and boasting of paying two to three times what the item is worth.

Too bad ebay can't keep a better control of things such as these.

That's just my $0.02. :cool:
 
The time that I ran into trouble it was this person selling Dewalt batteries. Like 500 of of them. He had a 99% feedback rating and had sold about 10 items before hand. Only problem was every transaction previous was a fake. He just created all these different ID's and sold to each of them. After they sold all the batteries he disappeared.

I asked ebay customer service about this and they simply said "we can't check EVERY seller/buyer. There are just too many of them..." I said "well, the easiest thing to do is to simply demand a major credit card before allowing anyone to sell. That way, they at least have been checked out at one time by someone..." they said "well, that's a good idea, we'll look into it...." LOL never happened....

What kills me the most though is when I look at toys and stuff I had as a kid. I've seen dinky and corgi toys that are selling for over a grand US that I paid like 50 cents for as a child. For eg: an original corgi batmobile, with box, and all parts (batman, robin, and the 6 missles still attached to the tree) was selling for (if memory serves) $2500.00 US last year. James Bond's Aston Martin, in the box, complete, was going for something like $4000.00. I had 4 of them, but none were in any decent condition.
 
Edifice said:
1) First off, how sellers use 'stock' photos to sell their items. I mean for Christ sake's digital cameras are becoming dirt cheap now so it wouldn't kill a seller to take a photo or two of the actual item they are selling as opposed to stealing a stock photo from a website. How hard is it?
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I totally agree here. However, it's EBAY, which uses Muse, that should take the blame because they provide the stock photos. It's when an over abundance of Hong Kong sellers pop up, in which Ebay collects for their existance, breaks into the North American market, depreciating the true value of the products with stuff they don't even have to begin with. This has to stop. I don't see any North American sellers on Ebay.China. Excuse me, Ebay.Communist.China.

Edifice said:
2) I will never buy from a seller unless he is using Paypal. I don't care how legit the seller is I prefer Paypal over Western Union or any other type of money order.
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You prefer Paypal because it was set up as easy for the buyer. But sellers want free Paypal service as they pay enough with Ebay. Paypal, typically, is an outfit designed to allow anyone to join without a real check on financial responsibility. The fees are strictly too high including items taken on a loss (of course the buyer wouldn't care, you just got a great deal), no recourse for control of any illegal chargebacks, and customer service located in Darfur. There are many sellers who can take the heat and not want any buyer who only uses Paypal.

Edifice said:
3) Then you have those Nigerian scammers asking the seller to send the item to Nigeria and boasting of paying two to three times what the item is worth.
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True. But what isn't noticed very much is a majority of those scams come from INSIDE Paypal and Ebay itself. Mainly inside Paypal. An unpoliced Paypal goon squad.

If Ebay was forced to return EVERY fee imposed on EVERY seller, many sellers could retire right now. Who needs social security. Just return all of Ebay's fees. I'm for that.

Gyaos.
 
tboy said:
The time that I ran into trouble it was this person selling Dewalt batteries. Like 500 of of them. He had a 99% feedback rating and had sold about 10 items before hand. Only problem was every transaction previous was a fake. He just created all these different ID's and sold to each of them. After they sold all the batteries he disappeared.
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When I signed up at Ebay recently I needed to supply a credit card (even as a buyer). So maybe they have changed the rules and this guy won't be able to pull this trick again, unless he's got like 50 different credit cards.
 
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