Review - Tiffany (Secret Rendezvous)

[kickpush416]

Booked one hour.

Phonegirl was cool, polite, and helpful. After passing the building 2-3 times, I finally realized it was my destination. I ended up being 3-4 minutes later for my appt. The phone girl was cool about it.

Got there, and hiding behind the door was Tiffany. First impression; she was hot. She had on some fishnet-type outfit..I can't remember the name of the material. Whatever. She looked good, but I wasn't really feeling the outfit.

Showered up, and got into the room. Tiffany is very accommodating. She asked a few questions before getting down..she pretty much wanted to know what I like. That was a nice touch because I'm there to escape from the normal life I lead, and she made it known off the top that she was there to take care of me. She then mentioned that when someone knocks on the door, it means we have 5-10 minutes

Off came the towel, and into a slow BBBJ. At first it felt too slow, but she got into it after a few minutes. Nice and wet, but not sloppy. I find it hard to bust when it's slow, but first SOG was achieved with some dedication on her part. she then asked "you ready to go again?"..NICE! then....came the knock. I lost the ability to keep it up knowing that I had 5 minutes. She wanted to give it a shot, but it felt like a lost cause. She returned to BBBJ for 5 minutes, then we chatted for a minute, and off I went..

I got into my car and noticed;

Appointment was 4:45
I was cleaned up, dressed, down the elevator, and in my car by 5:29.

By my calculation, that's 45 minutes.

Face: 8.5/10 - Very cute and attractive. Lots of sex appeal. Had a few freckles. I love it! Her hair was straightened. Like blonde with brown streaks, or vice versa..what do I know.

Body: N/A - Never got her naked because I opted for the extra long BBBJ. From what I gather, she's not petite, but shes not thick at all. She has meat in the right places.

Service: 9/10 - Good BJ. I wish I got FS, because she was bubbly and energetic...probably would have rocked my world.

Repeat: Yes, but I'm booking for 30mins next time. I rather pay the $120 + tip for 30 minutes, then pay $180 + tip for 40 mins.

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http://secret-rendezvous.ca/tiffany.htm

 

[mishi]

Tick Tock

Booked one hour.

I got into my car and noticed;

Appointment was 4:45
I was cleaned up, dressed, down the elevator, and in my car by 5:29.

By my calculation, that's 45 minutes.

That's happened to me also at SR; not sure I like what's going on there with the time situation. I mentioned it to Cydney and she said she would have the phone girl be more aware of start time being when we get to the room and make sure we get the time we paid for, but it looks like it's still happening.

Cyd?

 

[SecretRendezvous]

First Mishi, I am only answering you because I much more to say then just your questioning of me on the behalf of another client, but in the future, I will only address the client and only in private. I am no longer going to be called out in the public forum to address any complaints regarding the agency. If a client has an issue, he will have to bring it to me directly and I will see what I can do to fix the issue accordingly. I don't have to explain my actions, or the actions of my staff to anyone other then client who is making the complaint. This is going to be a new policy effective immediately. This is a business of privacy and discretion and therefore we will handle all complaints with privacy and discretion.

Please be clear. Time doesn't start when you are in your room. We try to start the time when you are in the apartment. Guys come in, take a shower - then you want us to start the time??? That is not fair to the lady. She is giving more time. Your 30 or 60 minutes starts from the time you enter the apartment. That time allows for before and after shower, getting dressed, etc. Not 30/60minutes in the room, then you can shower for 15 minutes after. Please realize that some people start the time from the appointment time itself and if you are not there, or late, etc, that is "your" time. Or they start it from when you call downstairs. We don't.

Also Mishi, I think one report of it happening since yours, or even a couple does not mean it is "repeatedly" happening. You have to remember the amount of clients we serve in a day/week/month. Then compare that to the number of clients who have a time related issue. The number is less then 1-2%.

Now I have spoken with the phone girls and I can do it again, but you are the paying client, stay your time. Bring in a clock, or set your cell phone alarm if you like. You have to take some responsibility yourself as well. If he was not able to go for the second round based on the knock then I am sorry. Too many people where feeling the 5 minute warning was not enough time, so we have bumped it to 10. I can't help if this causes other clients to lose the ability. I am only one person trying to please hundreds. I have to take what the majority are asking for and go with that. What am I suppose to do? How I am suppose ensure your ability but give you or the girl enough warning?

I am also sorry if I sound crass or rude right now, but I have to be clear about something here. I am dealing with a very difficult and private matter. The only options as far the agency goes it to temporarily change the running of it, or close it. That is it. I have the dumbest complaints as of late and to be honest it is very annoying. I have also had clients from this board and off the board try and act the fool while I am away. Being rude to the phone staff, trying to stay later then time, being very late, not just 5 minutes but sometimes 15-20 minutes, demanding services that are not offered, ripping the girls off, pulling more no shows then I care to count, or the booking and then canceling then re-booking a later time, then canceling again game. It has to stop or I will be forced to closed until I can return to duty full time as before. Just because the boss is away doesn't mean men can start acting in such disrespectful ways.

Then the complaints of having to book all appointments by phone - no more email, that I am unable to post the daily "who's on" schedule, complaining that a lady's schedule is on the days that the clients works and can the lady change her whole schedule around to suit him. Complaining that in this bad economical time we should be lowering our rates. Complaining that one lady offers more service then the other. Threats of writing bad reviews if a lady doesn't preform certain services. It is getting way to much. Telling the ladies that I should be opening locations in South Oshawa, Peterborough and Pickering. I should be touring them through-out Toronto. Asking for the ladies number to see them outside of the agency. Enough is enough.

I am doing the best I can, and I don't want to sound rude but the truth is there are more important things going on my life then some of the little nit pick things that guys are complaining about. We are the only agency in Durham with a schedule. We actually had 2. One for 2 weeks and one for daily. Just because one is gone is no reason to chew me out, or the lady you have booked because you now have to call to see who is available. I am sorry that the voice-mail is full, but it is being left that way because we have a couple of phone girls and only person can check VM - me. I can't have 3 other phone staff check, replying, deleting messages, so we took it out. These are things we have had to in order to still stay open, and I am sorry but for what we do give and then comparing that to what else is offered by other agencies in the area, I thought I could expect a little more appreciation and compassion from our clients. I think I have been very good to the men of Durham. I think that I have given high quality ladies, fair rates, great website with lots of info, great location, clean upscale apartment, etc. I think the agency deserve a little more credit then what we are getting.


So again, I am sorry for the actual clients issues, he can PM me if need be, but please note that from now I will only deal with any issue for the agency in private when brought directly to me.

I will be completely unreachable via all methods {phone/PM/Email} until March 9/09. So any more complaints will have to wait until after that time.

 

[a 1 player]

I think I will be scratching SR off my list, as hot as the women are. Based on the last few replies, this seems like a second rate operation to me. I might be alone here, but I think my money is better spent elsewhere, somewhere where the owners have good customer service skills and a lot less attitude.

Just saying.

 

[shrek71]

I might be alone here, but I think my money is better spent elsewhere, somewhere where the owners have good customer service skills and a lot less attitude.

You're not alone here. If more of the guys would think with their big head not the little one and voted with their wallet (chose to spend it elsewhere), then I am sure the agency would have to review their operating policies. Until such time, this agency will continue to do what works for them.

Cheers

 

[SecretRendezvous]

I think I will be scratching SR off my list, as hot as the women are. Based on the last few replies, this seems like a second rate operation to me. I might be alone here, but I think my money is better spent elsewhere, somewhere where the owners have good customer service skills and a lot less attitude.

Just saying.

You're not alone here. If more of the guys would think with their big head not the little one and voted with their wallet (chose to spend it elsewhere), then I am sure the agency would have to review their operating policies. Until such time, this agency will continue to do what works for them.

Cheers

Thank you for being honest, just as I am being. You want to feel that we are second rate because of my reply here, you are more then welcome to it. As I said in my reply, I am not trying to rude, or crass or unprofessional in anyway, but I am being honest too. If that means I am second rate, I will take that.

Also, if you can give some tips on how you think we can improve, then please give them to us privately, but also understand that there is more going on then you know. When I am saying I am dealing with a difficult and private matter, I am talking about the long, slow and painful death of a very close family member to cancer who I am spending all my time caring for. Everyday, 7 days a week from morning until night. Not to mention in an out of hospital. I was hoping to keep it secret but clearly it may help if it is out. So I agree, maybe the agency should be closed and I can start again once this person has passed on and I have done my grieving. Yet, do you know the hole that will leave in the Durham "playing flied"? Do you realize the amount clients who have requested that we remain open?

I am sorry if I expect my customers to have some give and take with our agency during this time, but that is what I expect and therefore you are right, you may not be suited to be a client of ours at this time, not that you have actually been a client from my understanding. Maybe if you were, you would have a different opinion.

So please scratch us off your list if you want. If that is what makes you happy. I am all for it, but for those clients that choose to use us, please understand what is going on, what we are trying to do and please stop with some of the BS that you are creating, or follow A1player/Shrek71 and move on to another agency. We would prefer it that way. Plus it will open up time for all the other clients who complain about not being able to get an appointment because of how busy we already are.

I couldn't please everyone all the time before I go detained, I know for sure that I can't do it now. I can only do my best at the time and this is my best for this time. To have the phone staff that are talking the calls, the ladies available that are available, no email booking, no daily schedule and from now on all complaints get dealt with in private, not by some pressure mod-squad on TERB.

BTW - A1, I would call my post blunt honesty, not attitude, but that is just my opinion. If you took it as attitude, then I am sorry. I just have no time right now for flaky little PR games to make us sound so wonderful. The truth is just much easier and better in my opinion.

 

[nofrills]

I had similar issue of short charging of time at Secret Rendezvous, way back last year in October. It was a pattern and not a one off incident. When I posted about it and other issues with this agency, I was called a liar and someone with an agenda against her agency.

https://terb.cc/vbulletin/showthread.php?p=2290868#post2290868

These are tough economic times and in these times I`ll rather support those agencies, with my hard earned $$$, who have better customer service attitude (Thanks Mirage & Roommates).

Calling yourself Durham`s best agency does not make you. I can choose to live in my dream world and imagine my Cavalier to be a BMW but reality is it will still be a Cavalier.

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Here is what I had posted about time issue on 19th Oct:

I have used secret rendezvous couple of times now and what I have noticed is that each time my half hour appointment was no more than 20 - 22 minutes in duration. As an example, if your appointment is at 2 pm, cydney gives the room number and buzzer number exactly at 2 pm. By the time you get buzzed into the building, take the elevator, get in the apartment, hand over the donation money and girl comes back into the room after taking care of donation money, it is 2.10. She promptly calls in at 2.30 pm to let the girl know that time is up.

This has happened to me twice now and hopefully management will rectify it before loyal customers start going somewhere else.

 

[SecretRendezvous]

Yes I completely agree No Frills. Thank God for Mirage and Roommates. Glad that you are happy with them. They are great agencies. Hopefully, you will find in yourself to let it go already now that you have happily moved on instead on continuing to come back to every SR thread that you can to complain.

 

[nofrills]

Yes I completely agree No Frills. Thank God for Mirage and Roommates. Glad that you are happy with them. They are great agencies. Hopefully, you will find in yourself to let it go already now that you have happily moved on instead on continuing to come back to every SR thread that you can to complain.

Any other smart business person would have used customer complaints as a feedback and an opportunity to improve their business operations. Whereas you seem to get irritated by them. Your attitude seem to be "If you don't like it, go somewhere else. I have enough customers. I'm doing men of Durham a favour here".

 

[SecretRendezvous]

Any other smart business person would have used customer complaints as a feedback and an opportunity to improve their business operations. Whereas you seem to get irritated by them. Your attitude seem to be "If you don't like it, go somewhere else. I have enough customers. I'm doing men of Durham a favour here".

Nofrills, again, I am glad that you have moved on to other agencies. I hope that you can finally let this all go and move on out of SR threads. But I have to go now.

Have a nice day!

 

[a 1 player]

First off, let me say I offer you my deepest sympathies. Losing a loved one is always a very difficult thing. My wish is that you are able to spend as much time with them as possible, and that they are going through this ordeal as pain free as possible.

I have always appreciated the truth, as most of us on this board do. And I also like that you did not sugar coat, in my opinion that earns you a bundle of respect.

Please be clear. Time doesn't start when you are in your room. We try to start the time when you are in the apartment. Guys come in, take a shower - then you want us to start the time??? That is not fair to the lady. She is giving more time. Your 30 or 60 minutes starts from the time you enter the apartment. That time allows for before and after shower, getting dressed, etc. Not 30/60minutes in the room, then you can shower for 15 minutes after. Please realize that some people start the time from the appointment time itself and if you are not there, or late, etc, that is "your" time. Or they start it from when you call downstairs. We don't.

I am going to play devils advocate here. How is this unfair to the lady? She is not really working or providing companionship during this time, and my guess is that she wants her clients to be clean. Please understand, most men have to work an ENTIRE DAY to spend just AN HOUR with one of your ladies. To many of us, this is not chump change, rather a luxury that is not in our regular budgets. I also do not think that many men want to take a 15 minute shower. If anything, the time should end at the end of the hour, once the client enters the apartment, where the shower is after the 60 minutes is spent.

The only options as far the agency goes it to temporarily change the running of it, or close it. That is it. I have the dumbest complaints as of late and to be honest it is very annoying. I have also had clients from this board and off the board try and act the fool while I am away. Being rude to the phone staff, trying to stay later then time, being very late, not just 5 minutes but sometimes 15-20 minutes, demanding services that are not offered, ripping the girls off, pulling more no shows then I care to count, or the booking and then canceling then re-booking a later time, then canceling again game. It has to stop or I will be forced to closed until I can return to duty full time as before. Just because the boss is away doesn't mean men can start acting in such disrespectful ways.

How about letting the lady be in charge of the time? Having a clock beside the bed to the woman and the client can manage their time together?

I hate to say this, but that is the nature of the business and you should know it. This is a management issue, no different than what any of us go through in our own businesses. I agree, it is a piss off, but there is no sense in bitching about it. Simple solution... If the men become pricks, black list them. I have had to do this with a few clients of mine unfortunately.

I'm not going to preach how you should run your business, god knows you have a lot more patience than I would have under these circumstances. I'm just saying that an escort business is an illusion, a fantasy for many of it's clients. A chance for many men to spend some time with a pretty woman, that they might not have the chance to otherwise do elsewhere.

I think debate about an agency is a good thing in an open forum. Not only does it let the client know what to expect, but it also gives the agency a chance to shine when it does come to customer service matters. I know that there have been many times for me that it was the comments made by the agency that made me want to book, not the review itself.

Again, this is just one mans opinion.

Cheers!

 

[lavameltme]

A busness is a business I don't ask the owners about personal problems and they don't care about mine. (personally sorry about the dying person)

If you are running a business then run it. As for complaints this is a hobby review board not an advertising forum for agencies with only the good posted. Go spend time where you should and deal with the issues when you are ready to.

 

[SecretRendezvous]

First off, let me say I offer you my deepest sympathies. Losing a loved one is always a very difficult thing. My wish is that you are able to spend as much time with them as possible, and that they are going through this ordeal as pain free as possible.

I have always appreciated the truth, as most of us on this board do. And I also like that you did not sugar coat, in my opinion that earns you a bundle of respect.



I am going to play devils advocate here. How is this unfair to the lady? She is not really working or providing companionship during this time, and my guess is that she wants her clients to be clean. Please understand, most men have to work an ENTIRE DAY to spend just AN HOUR with one of your ladies. To many of us, this is not chump change, rather a luxury that is not in our regular budgets. I also do not think that many men want to take a 15 minute shower. If anything, the time should end at the end of the hour, once the client enters the apartment, where the shower is after the 60 minutes is spent.



How about letting the lady be in charge of the time? Having a clock beside the bed to the woman and the client can manage their time together?

I hate to say this, but that is the nature of the business and you should know it. This is a management issue, no different than what any of us go through in our own businesses. I agree, it is a piss off, but there is no sense in bitching about it. Simple solution... If the men become pricks, black list them. I have had to do this with a few clients of mine unfortunately.

I'm not going to preach how you should run your business, god knows you have a lot more patience than I would have under these circumstances. I'm just saying that an escort business is an illusion, a fantasy for many of it's clients. A chance for many men to spend some time with a pretty woman, that they might not have the chance to otherwise do elsewhere.

I think debate about an agency is a good thing in an open forum. Not only does it let the client know what to expect, but it also gives the agency a chance to shine when it does come to customer service matters. I know that there have been many times for me that it was the comments made by the agency that made me want to book, not the review itself.

Again, this is just one mans opinion.

Cheers!

I am going to have to be quick because then I am off. It is unfair to the lady because it delays the amount of time she has to get ready for the next call and it lowers the amount of time available for her to book calls.

Think about it like this: Lady is working for 10am-2pm.

10am - called booked for one hour.

11:30 - next call booked for 30 mintues.

12:30 - next call booked for 1 hour.

If the client has the shower after their time, then these numbers have to change. Not to mention the already screwed up schedules because clients that are late. So let's just go based on your theroy.

10am Called book for 1 hour. Client leaves at 11:15 because of shower time, getting dress, saying goodbye etc. She now has either 15 mins, to get ready herself or the next call gets bumped back to 11:45am. Same thing happens. Call goes to 12:25 because 10 mins is spend cleaning up after the allotted "paid time"

so 12:30 now can't be done, or has to be shorter. So she has either just made her day 2 halfs and 1 hour, or just 1 hour and 1 half, or she has kept the 3 calls -2 hours and 1 half, but the client at the end of the day is going to bitch because the girl may have been late in letting him or may not have been so fresh and clean. How do you purpose we juggle that?

Not to mention that I don't know anyone else who allows for after paid time showers. Not any agency anyway. Would I like to be the one to start it sure, if I thought it could work, but I can't, and I don't have the time to play trail and error. Can't leave it to the ladies to judge their time either because then they will always be watching the clock to make sure they don't go over time. That is why we don't have clocks in the room. We don't want to be clock watchers either. It is a juggling act and this is the best we have come up with which is all I can do.

BTW - One man's opinions is just as important to me as the opinion of a hundred. Just so you know. Sorry for not spell checking either, but I really really have to go.

You guys can go nuts on this thread, I won't be back to reply as I can't. If you want to discuss something, leave me a PM and when I can after March 9/09 I will address it.

A busness is a business I don't ask the owners about personal problems and they don't care about mine. (personally sorry about the dying person)

If you are running a business then run it. As for complaints this is a hobby review board not an advertising forum for agencies with only the good posted. Go spend time where you should and deal with the issues when you are ready to.

You are right. I can't continue to do both. I am hoping the explaination will help some understand. If they don't, or they just don't care, then I suggest what everyone else says, move on. I left my agency in capable hands that is all I can do.

 

[Dodger]

I cannot speak to the current situation at SR as I have been unable to partake of any of their services for a few months now.

Past experience with the agency has always been very professional and I have never had a time issue, at least that was the agencies fault. The agency has always been fair with me on time and availability. Sure things happen and I have had appointments delayed slightly to allow the lady to prepare properly for me. Was it an inconvenience, maybe a little but not a big deal really. The ladies and owner are human and things happen from time to time.

I think that Cydney has done a great job of providing us with a group of ladies who like what they do and it shows with the reviews that are posted about the ladies. If there is a the odd issue with the agency or its policies then it something that I think we all just have to live with.

I have had a fair amount of experience with various incalls and outcall agencies, and frankly this is one of the easiest to deal with that I have experienced. For those that do not like the 10 minute knock or phone call maybe it is just easier to take your business elsewhere, but don't expect that you will get everything the way you want it at the next place.

My sympathies are also extended to Cydney and her family in this trying time. Having been through this myself a few times now with family members it is extremely hard to maintain focus on trivial things at a time like this. Just know Cydney that there are people here who care for you and your situation.

God Bless
Dodger

 

[mishi]

Wow... I wasn't anticipating this kind of reaction to my simple question, but I see anxiety is at a high point for many; maybe it's the trying times we're in.

Cydney, I feel for you in your current situation, I have been there myself and I know how hard it can be. You have my sympathies.

To the point of my comment above, all I was really trying to say is I think it's important for the paying customer to receive what he paid for; in this business that's time. So if I pay for an hour I want an hour, to me that hour should start from the minute I enter the apartment (I said room above but I meant apartment), and I should be out the door 59.5 minutes later (shower or no shower). I don't think I should be sitting in my car 45 minutes from my start time wondering what happened to the other 15 minutes I paid for. That's all... nothing more than that.

As I see it this is a policy decision for any business owner; once their policies are defined they should implement processes to match up with the policies. And, I understand that in all businesses these things take time to perfect. That's all I was trying to point out to you Cydney is that the process around time management doesn't seem to match your policy... or maybe I misinterpreted your policy.

Either way I didn’t intend to incite the type of anger I sense by reading through this thread.

I like SR, it is the best agency I know of in the area, and I would love to continue seeing the girls there; and… to be clear, if I don’t get what I pay for I tend to go somewhere else. This is true of restaurants, stores, repair shops, etc.

 

[mishi]

One more thing... Cydney if you're reading this please take this offer seriously because I say this with all sincerity.

If there's anything I can do to help out during your absence please PM me.