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papasmerf

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"The lady that wrote this letter is Pam Foster of Pamela Foster and Associates in Atlanta. She's been in business since 1980 doing interior design and home planning. She recently wrote a letter to a family member serving in Iraq. Read it!

WHAT'S ALL THE FUSS?

"Are we fighting a war on terror or aren't we?

Was it or was it not started by Islamic people who brought it to our shores on September 11, 2001?

Were people from all over the world, mostly Americans, not brutally murdered that day, in downtown Manhattan, across the Potomac from our nation's capitol and in a field in Pennsylvania?

Did nearly three thousand men, women and children die a horrible, burning or crushing death that day, or didn't they?

And I'm supposed to care that a copy of the Koran was "desecrated" when an overworked American soldier kicked it or got it wet?

Well, I don't. I don't care at all.

I'll start caring when Osama bin Laden turns himself in and repents for incinerating all those innocent people on 9/11.

I'll care about the Koran when the fanatics in the Middle East start caring about the Holy Bible, the mere possession of which is a crime in Saudi Arabia.

I'll care when Abu Musab al-Zarqawi tells the world he is sorry for hacking off Nick Berg's head while Berg screamed through his gurgling,slashed throat.

I'll care when the cowardly so-called "insurgents" in Iraq come out and fight like men instead of disrespecting their own religion by hiding in mosques.

I'll care when the mindless zealots who blow themselves up in search of nirvana care about the innocent children within range of their suicide bombs.

I'll care when the American media stops pretending that their First Amendment liberties are somehow derived from international law instead of the United States Constitution's Bill of Rights.

In the meantime, when I hear a story about a brave marine roughing up an Iraqi terrorist to obtain information, know this: I don't care.

When I see a fuzzy photo of a pile of naked Iraqi prisoners who have been humiliated in what amounts to a college hazing incident, rest assured that I don't care.

When I see a wounded terrorist get shot in the head when he is told not to move because he might be booby-trapped, you can take it to the bank that I don't care.

When I hear that a prisoner, who was issued a Koran and a prayer mat, and fed "special" food that is paid for by my tax dollars, is complaining that his holy book is being "mishandled," you can absolutely believe in your heart of hearts that I don't care.

And oh, by the way, I've noticed that sometimes it's spelled "Koran" and other times "Quran." Well, Jimmy Crack Corn and -- you guessed it, I could not have said this any better myself!

If you agree with this view point, pass this on to all your e-mail friends. Sooner or later, it'll get to the people responsible for this ridiculous behavior! If you don't agree, then by all means hit the delete button.

Should you choose the latter, then please don't complain when more atrocities committed by radical Muslims happen here in our great country,like are happening in France now.

Can I get an AMEN!!!!"

Could not have said it better.



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"Are we fighting a war on terror or aren't we?

"Was it or was it not started by Islamic people who brought it to our shores on September 11, 2001? "

Really good fundamental questions!!!!!
Jury is STILL OUT here.
 

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PHNINE said:
I think the font should be bigger Papa..can hardly read it...:cool:
Just copied the email as it was

but the points are the original font
 
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papasmerf

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alphauniform said:
"Are we fighting a war on terror or aren't we?

"Was it or was it not started by Islamic people who brought it to our shores on September 11, 2001? "

Really good fundamental questions!!!!!
Jury is STILL OUT here.
It was brought here during the clithead administration and ignored
 

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alphauniform said:
"Are we fighting a war on terror or aren't we?
"Was it or was it not started by Islamic people who brought it to our shores on September 11, 2001? "
Really good fundamental questions!!!!!
Jury is STILL OUT here.
1. no
2. NO!
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papasmerf said:
I'll care when the American media stops pretending that their First Amendment liberties are somehow derived from international law instead of the United States Constitution's Bill of Rights
I wish that Bush stopped pretending that liberties are derived from him instead of the Bill of Rights.
 

papasmerf

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irlandais9000 said:
I wish that Bush stopped pretending that liberties are derived from him instead of the Bill of Rights.
Feel free to back that up
 

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KBear said:
This letter could be a couple of years old. Think that now the American public has finally figured it out that Iraq had nothing to do with 911.
I know the media has been selling that
 

Mcluhan

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KBear said:
This letter could be a couple of years old. Think that most of the American public has figured it out that Iraq had nothing to do with 911.
Don't be so sure. I would have said the same thing until a couple of weeks ago I was in the company of a group of guys from Michigan, all over 40, a working-class cross section of good'ol boys from the hunting and fishing ford-150 school of thought. In their words...the reason they are in Iraq is because they attacked the twin towers. The myth that was sold to this particular crowd, swallowed whole based on ignorance, and not only did they never question it, but they look upon it as unpatriotic to do so. Just like papa here...he believes what he believes...because 'they told him so' and the truth of the matter will not disturb it.

One has to wonder, could this same phenomina, a lie wrapped in a blanket of ignorance be sold wholesale to the Canadian public and then persist? I have to wonder - but I imagine not. Hope not.
 

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Mcluhan said:
One has to wonder, could this same phenomina, a lie wrapped in a blanket of ignorance be sold wholesale to the Canadian public and then persist? I have to wonder - but I imagine not. Hope not.
Well you do have a new conservative government, so don't be surprised if your cons don't mimic some of those Rovian tactics used here in the US.

Harper could be my kinda tool !!!
 

Mcluhan

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Well you do have a new conservative government, so don't be surprised if your cons don't mimic some of those Rovian tactics used here in the US.

Harper could be my kinda tool !!!
Oh, he's going to try - make no mistake. He's already developing the same kind of arrogance to his polish, wilst speaking to the throng in Ottawa. But rest assured, when the honeymoon is over, the media and the public in general will eventually tear Harper to pieces...its inevitable.
 
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Mcluhan said:
Don't be so sure. I would have said the same thing until a couple of weeks ago I was in the company of a group of guys from Michigan, all over 40, a working-class cross section of good'ol boys from the hunting and fishing ford-150 school of thought. In their words...the reason they are in Iraq is because they attacked the twin towers. The myth that was sold to this particular crowd, swallowed whole based on ignorance, and not only did they never question it, but they look upon it as unpatriotic to do so. Just like papa here...he believes what he believes...because 'they told him so' and the truth of the matter will not disturb it.

One has to wonder, could this same phenomina, a lie wrapped in a blanket of ignorance be sold wholesale to the Canadian public and then persist? I have to wonder - but I imagine not. Hope not.
Dumbass, ignorant Americans. Unable to form any indepedent thought apart from Bush propoganda. 24/7 media reporting and analysis on many issues divested from Bush-speak and still, still they rush off lemming like over the cliffs into the abyss of blind allegiance and ignorance. Must by some pretty strong lemming-aid.

Yeah right.
 
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Mcluhan said:
Oh, he's going to try - make no mistake. He's already developing the same kind of arrogance to his polish, wilst speaking to the throng in Ottawa. But rest assured, when the honeymoon is over, the media and the public in general will eventually tear Harper to pieces...its inevitable.
Memories of Cretein? Shades of Martin? The arrogance of Trudeau? The rockjaw of Mulroney? What is you are trying to say?
 

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papasmerf said:
Feel free to back that up

Bush feels free to violate laws at will, and has little respect for basic civil liberties. I could back it up with hundreds of pages, but I will limit myself to a few examples. After all, if you have somehow missed this in the news for the last several years, there is little I can say to convince you otherwise. Let's consider the Bill of Rights and what Bush has done with respect to them:

Amendment 1 - segregates protesters into "free speech" zones, warns people they "should watch what they say", attacks opponents for giving aid and comfort to terrorists whenever they disagree with Bush policies, provides false information over and over to the media, deprives reporters of access if they are overly "negative" about Bush policies

Amendment 4 - allows searches and seizures without warrant

Amendment 5 - deprives due process rights of defendants, allows them to "disappear", deprives access to lawyers

Now, you may argue that some of these actions were good if you like. Perhaps you feel that search warrants are unnecessary. If you do, however, argue that point, don't try to say that Bush is following the Constitution.

Pops, you often make sweeping statements with no substantiation, but then you hold everyone else to a higher standard, you ask everyone else to show proof. You talk the talk, but don't walk the walk, as the saying goes.

I remember last year we had a discussion about what the 9/11 commission said in its report, and I was commenting on one of the findings. You didn't just disagree with me about a conclusion, you disagreed with me about whether a statement was made in the report. You said, "back it up", so I did, showing you exactly where the statement was that I described. I guess it wasn't as much fun for you then, because I never heard from you again in that thread.

So, my challenge to you is, defend your idea that Bush respects the Constitution of the United States- let's see if YOU can back it up in the way you ask everyone else to- and that means positive points in favor of the idea, not just asking me to back it up again ad infinitum.
 

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I have yet to feel my Constitution has been violated.

Sorry
 

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KBear said:
This letter could be a couple of years old. Think that most of the American public has figured it out that Iraq had nothing to do with 911.
A recent survey shows that 85% of American troops believe that they are in Iraq in retaliation for Saddam's role in 9/11. :(

As far as the whole "not caring thing" well, we should. That's supposed te be what makes us "better" then them. That we do care about all these things.
 
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