Re: GFE

[Monte Cristo]

Re: GFE

Did you guys ever stop to consider where these girls have been?

As a former driver, I have never seen an SP run home to shower in between calls. Some do shower at the client's place but not all. You are sticking your face down there boys...

Toothbrush and mouth wash? Hello? More often than not, boner breath is masked by a stick of gum. I carried plenty of that while doing my thing.

Not all clients wash their hands. Some girls don't even bother to check. It would certainly answer why so many SP's end up with bladder and yeast infections (that you guys never know about). Ever taste Canestan before? You probably have...

Do you guys seriously believe that an SP can spot an STD on sight? Can you? Unless you ask her to piss in a cup so you can analyze her urine to see if it's cloudy or not, you won't spot a bladder infection. As for a yeast infection, a good shower can mask the tell-tale signs. Same goes for clamidia. A good shower will keep that rotting fish smell at bay for an hour or two.

I used to wonder why certain girls were always getting sick with a cold... that is until I found
out that they were rather liberal in the service they provided.

I've heard all of the rebuttals and frankly, I'm amused. Yes, one can get hit and killed by a bus crossing the street. Probability of it ever happening to me is close to zero. I happen to look both ways before I cross.

I've noticed the GFE trend and watched it explode over the last year or so. Obviously, it is a matter of supply and demand. What I have a serious problem with is the fact that many girls are going to feel pressured into doing "whatever" or suffer the decline of her clientele. If she happens to be a teenaged single mother, uneducated and desperate, god knows what will happen to her. Does anyone even care? It is the SP who is at greater risk of contracting something so it stands to reason as to why the demand.

Unlike most upscale SP's who provide the GFE experience (I'm talking about the ones that charge over five hundred for the hour), the garden variety type see many clients on any given night (3 to 7, if not more). The exposure factor jumps exponentially. And this is acceptable for you guys?

I have nothing wrong with the selfish pursuit of pleasure. I simply draw the line if and when the consequences born out of such pursuits have the potential of affecting others, directly or indirectly. Especially the ones I love.

PS: If it was your daughter, sister, mother or spouse, would your opinion remain the same? Double standards appear to reign supreme. Flame away, guys...

 

[Shades]

Masters of Delusion

Good post Monte Cristo...
We all need some cold water in the face occassionally.
Think we are all masters of delusions:
-we are great lovers
-the girl really likes me
-I can get away with anything, the wife/girl friend/family will never know
-I am lucky, won't catch anything
-if I do catch something it won't be anything that I can't handle with a simple shot of penicillin
-I only use girls that are exceptionally clean and safe
-the girl would let me know if there is a problem

 

[Monte Cristo]

But really most girls are afraid for their health too. So i believe most of them are hygenic in their own ways.

Money is the deciding factor. When weighed against the threat of contracting something, many girls will take that chance out of desperation. For those who think that the SP will use common sense and stay home when sick or infected with something I have only one thing to say:

Interested in buying some prime Florida swamp land for a song?

If an SP is cavalier about passing off a cold or flu, what do you think her opinion would be on matters of grave importance? Ditto for the clients. Her concerns are really only for herself. Beyond that, it is notwithstanding. Again, ditto for the client.

Many years ago, I knew an SP who got the dose from a client. She was so enraged that she went about trying to give it back to as many guys she could. Pretzel logic for sure... But it happens. A lack of education and insight will do that to an SP.

Caveat emptor, mon frere...

 

[rdhaired_vixen]

good points

while alot of what you say is true it is wrong to assume that because you are in this industry, one doesn't take the time for such things such as check ups, and doctors visits..as for pricing although im sure there are girls that undercut, Most girls look at the industry and geographical factors .. unless its a street urchin.. that doesn't apply here.. yes agencies do alllow girls to go 3 to 7 a night but rare... and I myself prefer the lowkey aproach.. perhaps cutting my numbers more so by not advertising , but at least i know im clean and im not the assemblyline girl you speak of here.
I think most of the ladies on this board anyways are respectable and take care of themselves. Its in the job description .....

 

[Pargolfer]

Best GFE

Lisa...TOUCHE......

 

[Monte Cristo]

My apologies to the mid-level SP's. It was not my intention to denigrate a specific class/classes of girls so I hope no one takes offence. I should have clarified that in the beginning. It was more of a wake-up call for the guys.

The case scenario's and examples so bluntly delineated in my initial posting - although quite prevalent - does not speak for all. There are many conscientious SP's who book off when they're sick with a cold, shower in between appointments (predominantly indie's) etc. etc.

Keep it safe, keep it covered, keep it clean...

 

[Monte Cristo]

An addendum for the gentlemen: I apologize if this comes across as rather harsh but...

The reason I had posted in the first place, was in defence of all SP's. I got tired of seeing the same group of guys trash certain SP's simply because they weren't GFE. My concerns only grew when I began to see agencies actively promote this "value added service" as the cherry on the parfait. Then, the threads started to micro-analyze the concept of what GFE means from a subjective point of view. Someone had to say something as the girls' pleas seemed to fall on deaf ears or at worst, the girl would be ceremoniously trashed and flamed by all of the GFE proponents.

Guys, these are young ladies barely out of their teens for the most part. Some are just beginning to circumnavigate this journey we all call life. It's like fighting someone when both of their hands are tied behind their back. Most of you guys are in your prime, some are past. In most cases, old enough to be their father. The way some of you gentlemen bore into these girls...

...and some of you guys kept it up by not relenting in your demands and finally, you got your wish. Now, more girls than not are willing to provide some form of value added bonus. All at great risk. And right across the pricing spectrum, economy of scale notwithstanding. I nearly fell of my chair when I read a thread on some girl with the S&S special. 15 minutes sans raincoat for 50 bucks. She lives in a dump, according to the poster... There's gonna be a line-up at her door and that's insane.

The onus rests solely on the demand. Basically, I look at it as taking advantage of someone who's powerless to choose. To say the girl has the choice to say yes or no is cause for a cranial cramp. No one takes into consideration why she's doing this in the first place (to get out of poverty... a means to an end... etc.). It's a selfish pursuit of pleasure at its very worst. If an agency behaved like that, they could easily be indicted for exercising control.

For those who just have to have their DATY, have you ever heard of Sea Sponges? Granted, the classier ladies would naturally book off. But most don't. Mmmm. Yum.

 

[Baddboy]

I have always thought of GFE as more of a special expecience, cuddling maybe a dinner and conversation. A sp can provide a very nice gfe experiecnce without bbbj or DFK. She has a right to protect her health and I hope mine. All this talk of diseases spread makes me very weary of getting to close or seeing sp's advertised as DFK, bbbj exc.

Just my 2cents

 

[drlove]

I have always thought of GFE as more of a special expecience, cuddling maybe a dinner and conversation. A sp can provide a very nice gfe experiecnce without bbbj or DFK. She has a right to protect her health and I hope mine. All this talk of diseases spread makes me very weary of getting to close or seeing sp's advertised as DFK, bbbj exc.

Just my 2cents

True, but that's the risk you take. However, you are correct regarding the notion of GFE as being a special experience. I have been seeing a lady regularly for the past two and a half years. Since I truly enjoy her company, our appointments have sometimes consisted of dinner, a soak in the jaccuzi, and cuddling. No sex. While that may surprise some of you, she is very special, and I would rather just spend some quality time talking... very therapeutic and relaxing for me, anyway, and I'm sure she feels the same.