RBC replaces Canadian staff with foreign workers

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Dozens of employees at Canada’s largest bank are losing their jobs to temporary foreign workers, who are in Canada to take over the work of their department.

“They are being brought in from India, and I am wondering how they got work visas,” said Dave Moreau, one of the employees affected by the move. “The new people are in our offices and we are training them to do our jobs. That adds insult to injury.”

Moreau, who works in IT systems support, said he is one of 50 employees who facilitate various transactions for RBC Investor Services in Toronto, which serves the bank’s biggest and wealthiest institutional clients.

In February, RBC told Moreau and his colleagues 45 of their jobs with the regulatory and financial applications team would be terminated at the end of April.
Unbelievable. I am so glad I switched to PC financial last year from RBC.
 

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Unbelievable. I am so glad I switched to PC financial last year from RBC.
The direct banking division of CIBC. I am sure that CIBC is a very different sort of bank, and would never engage in that sort of cost cutting in order to provide free banking services.
 

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The direct banking division of CIBC. I am sure that CIBC is a very different sort of bank, and would never engage in that sort of cost cutting in order to provide free banking services.
If they're prove to be equally scummy, I'm gone from there, too.
 

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Interesting...looks like the globalization of IT has arrived, and a highly skilled domestic employee will be competing against offshore workers in India. That's the news, and it won't stop with the banks and RBC.

The rest appears to be a clumsy misstep by CIBC in terms of how it get's implemented.
 

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The main outsourcing targets have been call centres and software development jobs. This sounds like IT support.

Good luck to them. I've heard it said that regular, proceduralized tasks can be off-shored, but those are actually a minority in IT. Faced with doing repetitive work, IT people are masters at automation to get that crap off their plates. There's the simple helpdesk tasks like password resets that need to be done no matter what, then the stuff that is left mainly needs judgement and knowledge.

The timezone difference is a killer as well, with the exception of doing the on-call trouble ticket handling. 24 hour operations actually can make sense to deal with globally.
 

bazokajoe

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If anyone thinks their bank isn't using offshore sites for IT is pretty stupid.They all do it.
 

ogibowt

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Unbelievable. I am so glad I switched to PC financial last year from RBC.
better yet, in 2 years lets switch Prime Ministers and his lap dogs, who created this...
 

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The main outsourcing targets have been call centres and software development jobs. This sounds like IT support.

Good luck to them. I've heard it said that regular, proceduralized tasks can be off-shored, but those are actually a minority in IT. Faced with doing repetitive work, IT people are masters at automation to get that crap off their plates. There's the simple helpdesk tasks like password resets that need to be done no matter what, then the stuff that is left mainly needs judgement and knowledge.

The timezone difference is a killer as well, with the exception of doing the on-call trouble ticket handling. 24 hour operations actually can make sense to deal with globally.
read the article more carefully..THEY ARE IN CANADA............sheesh
 

saxon

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Why bother complaining? It's the way of the world these days. Just do what I do, buy RBC and TD stock and cash in like I have.
 

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All the big banks are doing something similar. They layoff just under 50 employees every month to stay under the radar.

http://www.labour.gov.on.ca/english/es/pubs/guide/termination.php#mass

RBC appears to have made two big misstep and blown their cover. The other banks find 50 redundancies every month and replace a month later, not ask the current staff to train their replacements. The other banks use the big name outsourcers who will advise them how to stay under the radar. But RBC is so arrogant they chose a smaller upstart outsourcer who will not question their decisions and charge $2 an hour less.

http://www.cbc.ca/news/business/story/2010/01/20/consumer-india-outsourcing.html
 

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This is a big mistake. The level of talent and efficiency is not going to be the same. It might look good on a spreadsheet but in reality, it plays out different.
ISPs for example, technical support is not outsourced as often as it used to be. Compare this to 10 years ago when nearly 100% of consumer-level IT support was outsourced. Why the change? Because the data revealed the inefficiencies and it ended up costing them money (less productive employees, poor customer retention, etc).
 

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This is a big mistake. The level of talent and efficiency is not going to be the same. It might look good on a spreadsheet but in reality, it plays out different.
ISPs for example, technical support is not outsourced as often as it used to be. Compare this to 10 years ago when nearly 100% of consumer-level IT support was outsourced. Why the change? Because the data revealed the inefficiencies and it ended up costing them money (less productive employees, poor customer retention, etc).
Ancient history. The outsourcing firms know their weaknesses and have been working hard to remedy.

http://www.cbc.ca/news/business/story/2013/04/05/business-jobs-canada.html
 
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