Quiet quitting?

[HAMSTER INSPECTOR]

Wikipedia:

Quiet quitting.

Quiet quitting is an application of work-to-rule, in which employees work within defined work hours and engage solely in activities within those hours. Despite the name, the philosophy of quiet quitting is not necessarily connected to quitting a job outright, but rather doing precisely what the job requires.[1] Proponents of quiet quitting also refer to it as acting your wage.[2]

Is this a new thing or has it been around since forever? With bad times around the corner can anyone afford to quiet quit these days?

 

[Uncharted]

It's called work to rule, and has been around since unions came into existence.

 

[poker]

Wikipedia:

Quiet quitting.

Quiet quitting is an application of work-to-rule, in which employees work within defined work hours and engage solely in activities within those hours. Despite the name, the philosophy of quiet quitting is not necessarily connected to quitting a job outright, but rather doing precisely what the job requires.[1] Proponents of quiet quitting also refer to it as acting your wage.[2]

Is this a new thing or has it been around since forever? With bad times around the corner can anyone afford to quiet quit these days?

Somebody with a blog gave a name. It’s an attitude


In fairness, I have heard stories people who had been given company cell phones, get screamed at by the President of the company I used to work at because they didn’t answer it at home… while taking a shit.

When clients call making demands, managers have to be there. I get that. They get a salary.

However, hourly employees do not. And Companies are increasingly expecting hourly staff to answer texts, read emails, and take calls while off the clock.

Call it what you want…. It’s a good thing.

 

[silentkisser]

Somebody with a blog gave a name. It’s an attitude


In fairness, I have heard stories people who had been given company cell phones, get screamed at by the President of the company I used to work at because they didn’t answer it at home… while taking a shit.

When clients call making demands, managers have to be there’s.

However, hourly employees do not. And Companies are increasingly expecting hourly staff to answer texts, read emails, and take calls while off the clock.

Call it what you want…. It’s a good thing.

I agree whole heartedly. I've done the thing were I made myself available at all hours of the day to help the company, going above and beyond my job responsibilities. I did it because I thought that attitude would be rewarded. Promotions, pay increases, protection from layoffs. But, it is total bullshit. In my case, the promotion was promised but septs getting pushed back to "the next quarter," and the pay raises never materialized.

So, now I do what my job duties are. I might help out occasionally when there is a crisis, but when people in my department left and were not replaced, I stopped picking up their slack. I'm no longer going to do the work of three people while already being underpaid.

 

[Brill]

It’s been around forever, long before unions but now has a name. Some people feel they aren’t paid enough to do more than minimum effort.

 

[John Wick]

It's not in my DNA to quiet quit. I give 100% every day right up until I've had enough of the bullshit, then I clearly and directly hit the eject button. Quiet quitting feels to me like weasel behaviour

 

[poker]

It's not in my DNA to quiet quit. I give 100% every day right up until I've had enough of the bullshit, then I clearly and directly hit the eject button. Quiet quitting feels to me like weasel behaviour

I disagree. Asking your staff to work from home while not getting paid seems like weasel behaviour.

 

[John Wick]

Guess it depends on the nature of your job, how much you value that job, and how you see your career advancing. Just putting in minimal face time for a basic paycheck that will top out pretty quick seems like a pretty unattractive way to spend the next 20-25 years. Even if the employer doesn't value you, don't you value you?

 

[curr3n_c1000]

So doing your Job is now a form of Quitting?

This society gets crazier by the minute.

 

[John Wick]

So, now I do what my job duties are. I might help out occasionally when there is a crisis, but when people in my department left and were not replaced, I stopped picking up their slack. I'm no longer going to do the work of three people while already being underpaid.

I've heard this frequently over the course of my working career. It normally comes from individuals who's careers have already stalled and their upward mobility within their existing company is already dead for the usual reasons - bad attitude, lack of talent, and/or poor work ethic. Of course, they always see themselves as rockstars, even if no one else does.They're also usually the same people who haven't left to look for greener pastures because they haven't really got what it takes to land another better job elsewhere anyway, and they know it. They are typically the unhappiest employees on the floor, week over week, month over month, year in year out.

 

[silentkisser]

I've heard this frequently over the course of my working career. It normally comes from individuals who's careers have already stalled and their upward mobility within their existing company is already dead for the usual reasons - bad attitude, lack of talent, and/or poor work ethic. Of course, they always see themselves as rockstars, even if no one else does.They're also usually the same people who haven't left to look for greener pastures because they haven't really got what it takes to land another better job elsewhere anyway, and they know it. They are typically the unhappiest employees on the floor, week over week, month over month, year in year out.

I'm not going to say there is some truth to what you're describing. There is also the aspect of being able to "play the game" and kiss the right ass to get ahead. Some people are born with that gene that allows them to see who's ass to kiss, so they get elevated regardless of their lack of talent.

Now, I never claimed to be a rockstar. However, my evaluations were always glowing, commenting on how I went above and beyond. But at the end of the day, that attitude hurt my social & familial life. I spent weekends working instead of hanging with friends or family. I missed events. I cancelled dates. I was a go-to guy, but the promised rewards never came.

Now that I'm older, and see what they do to other people, I don't want to play that game. If they want to increase my workload because colleagues jumped ship, that's tough. They aren't paying me more, so why should I do more. I've seen them layoff talented people just to reduce headcount/salaries to improve the ROI or bottom line. Fuck, I've heard them brag about that shit. Basically, there is no loyalty. As much as companies want to pretend they are a family, they will drop your ass faster than a hot potato if they figure they could get someone to do your job cheaper. So, fuck them, because they will fuck you sooner or later.

 

[chodge]

I'm not going to say there is some truth to what you're describing. There is also the aspect of being able to "play the game" and kiss the right ass to get ahead. Some people are born with that gene that allows them to see who's ass to kiss, so they get elevated regardless of their lack of talent.

Now, I never claimed to be a rockstar. However, my evaluations were always glowing, commenting on how I went above and beyond. But at the end of the day, that attitude hurt my social & familial life. I spent weekends working instead of hanging with friends or family. I missed events. I cancelled dates. I was a go-to guy, but the promised rewards never came.

Now that I'm older, and see what they do to other people, I don't want to play that game. If they want to increase my workload because colleagues jumped ship, that's tough. They aren't paying me more, so why should I do more. I've seen them layoff talented people just to reduce headcount/salaries to improve the ROI or bottom line. Fuck, I've heard them brag about that shit. Basically, there is no loyalty. As much as companies want to pretend they are a family, they will drop your ass faster than a hot potato if they figure they could get someone to do your job cheaper. So, fuck them, because they will fuck you sooner or later.

Quiet quitting is when you go to a MP and you refuse the extra menu , you get attitude and the minimum jackhammer

 

[MuffDiver]

I'm reasonably paid with seniority in a non-union job. Meets or exceeds expectations reviews every year, so never a bad review. I've gotten to a point where I refuse to work for free for a corporation. I'll do almost anything asked of me between 9 AM and 5 PM Monday to Friday (my official working hours). I rarely take my full HR documented lunch and break time, which is fine by me. I'd prefer to get things done.

My stance is if my work is valuable, so is my time. Why should I give it to a corporation that pats itself on the back for 2% raises most years? I spend my non-working hours improving my skills and enjoying my life. If you need me to do more, authorize overtime, otherwise hire more staff or get a contractor. I have no desire to be promoted. My job satisfaction comes from a job well done and solving problems. My reward is the direct deposit to my account twice a month and benefits.

I view my job as a contractual relationship and not my life. Should they ever be stupid enough to terminate without cause, my seniority and age would cost them a big severance cheque!

 

[rhuarc29]

As an employer, I have no problem with some forms of this. I don't expect my employees to get on a conference call at 8pm at night without being compensated for it, or at all, to be honest. I don't expect non-salaried workers to take work home with them to catch up if they didn't get it done during the day. If required, they can stay at the office and get paid overtime rates.

However, some forms of this are just petty. For instance, having no flexibility at all. If I'm working late and have a quick question (such as "where did you leave that file?"), I'll text it to the employee in question, even if after hours. Similarly, employees text me on my personal time if they have a question. Another example of pettiness is working to exactly the letter of the job description hired for, and nothing more. This kind of inflexibility just shows a chip-on-your-shoulder mentality.

Frankly, I've never actually experienced employees who act like this, so maybe I've been lucky. But maybe it's because I'm first into the office, last to leave, and often skip my breaks. With a CEO who kicks back all the time, I can see employees being disgruntled and feel like doing the minimum.

 

[MadGeek]

Time is the most precious commodity you have. You trade time for compensation and once you trade that time, it's gone for good; you don't get an opportunity to earn more time. So your time needs to be spent earning the best possible return it can. If you spent your time last year working uncompensated overtime (salary role) doing a job that previously was done by two people all in hopes of getting some sort of financial recognition (raise, promotion, whatever...) and at your annual review you got a token pat on the back and a 2% "raise", well that wasn't time well spent was it? You would have been better off looking for opportunities elsewhere or at the very least spending that time improving your skill set. Bottom line: you're not a charity so don't spend your time and not receive compensation for it.

 

[jeff2]

Corporations have been doing quiet quitting for decades. When I started with my company, we had defined benefit pensions(non-indexed) and retirement health benefits. Both are now gone. Defined benefit pensions are now defined contibution pensions(employees who were previously in the defined benefit pension had the option of going into a hybrid pension).

 

[JuanGoodman]

It's much deeper than just work. I think this guy started it.

 

[Ref]

In Ontario companies who employ over 25 workers must have a "Disconnecting from Work" policy.

Written policy on disconnecting from work | Your guide to the Employment Standards Act

Know your rights and obligations under the Employment Standards Act (ESA). This guide describes the rules about minimum wage, hours of work limits, termination of employment, public holidays, pregnancy and parental leave, severance pay, vacation and more.

www.ontario.ca

It will be interesting to see what will happen when challenged.

 

[JuanGoodman]

Words to live by.

 

[NotADcotor]

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