psychedelics

[Yoga Face]

the evidence is gathering but the government refuses to listen

psychedelics is where dope was 40 years ago

it will be accepted prescribed use given time

no telling what advancements that will lead to


http://www.bing.com/videos/search?q...BVR&pq=auyahuasca&sc=8-10&sp=2&qs=SC&sk=SC1#a

http://www.920coalition.org/

 

[red]

People should be free to pollute their bodies in any way they want to- I think the government should back off and get on with their real job

 

[Yoga Face]

People should be free to pollute their bodies in any way they want to- I think the government should back off and get on with their real job

I do not agree

Some drugs harm society and destroy families, it goes beyond the individual

However, the government should give serious, scientific, objective study to drugs that are now illegal and tell the public the truth. Instead, they outright lie.

I am unsure why but suspect pharmaceutical companies may be involved as they cannot patent drugs from nature or drugs you can grow

 

[red]

Alcohol and cigarettes kill people and destroy families.

Infidelity destroys families.

Extreme sports can destroy families.

You want the govt to ban all this and micro manage our lives?

 

[FAST]

People should be free to pollute their bodies in any way they want to- I think the government should back off and get on with their real job

As long as I don't have to pay for the result of polluting their bodies in ANY way.

FAST

 

[Yoga Face]

Alcohol and cigarettes kill people and destroy families.

Infidelity destroys families.

Extreme sports can destroy families.

You want the govt to ban all this and micro manage our lives?

I find such arguments silly

Perhaps we should allow people to drive on whatever side of the street they choose ?

Intelligent limits to freedoms to destroy oneself have to be imposed for the good of all

Anyways, that is another thread

Anybody have any experience with psychedelics ? good or bad.

I am particularly interested in ayahuasca

This psychedelic is huge industry in Brazil and other South and Central America countries as tourists pilgrimage world wide to ayahuasca retreats.

 

[red]

I find such arguments silly

Perhaps we should allow people to drive on whatever side of the street they choose ?

Intelligent limits to freedoms to destroy oneself have to be imposed for the good of all

Anyways, that is another thread

Anybody have any experience with psychedelics ? good or bad.

I am particularly interested in ayahuasca

This psychedelic is huge industry in Brazil and other South and Central America countries as tourists pilgrimage world wide to ayahuasca retreats.

Thats a terrible analogy.

Driving on the wrong side of the road affects other people. Ingesting drugs or alcohol impacts only yourself (yes assuming you dont drink and drive)

The less govt in our lives the better

 

[Yoga Face]

Thats a terrible analogy.

Driving on the wrong side of the road affects other people. Ingesting drugs or alcohol impacts only yourself (yes assuming you dont drink and drive)

The less govt in our lives the better

No

Addiction causes all kinds of problems

Look at alcoholism and the social problems it causes beyond the concerns of the individual

Now multiply by ten and that is what you got if there is no social control on drugs

Prove otherwise and I will agree with you

 

[Mr Deeds]

People should be free to pollute their bodies in any way they want to- I think the government should back off and get on with their real job

So your saying let people do what ever they want and when they end up on the street or too sick to support them selves whos going to look after them. YOU?

 

[red]

So your saying let people do what ever they want and when they end up on the street or too sick to support them selves whos going to look after them. YOU?

So you prefer going back to prohibition? You support the criminal gangs that make drugs freely available? You support the killings and fights over the money illegal drugs attracts? You support the criminalization of the drug users so they are afraid to seek help until too late? You support the policing costs and militarization of our police and the increased risks to law enforcement by drug dealers?

I support regulation of drugs, education of drug users, and treatment centres. Taxes on the drugs will pay for this and the reduced policing costs.

 

[Mr Deeds]

No what Im saying that if drugs were allowed to be used freely and controlled buy the government then you end up with a population of sheep controlled by the government. Drugs are additive and destructive, what if say an airline pilot was a crack addict or a doctor is on heroin. Drug abuse cant be eradicated and if you allow people to use any drug when ever they want all you'll have are more drug addicts its just human nature. You wont get rid of the traffickers you'll just give them a platform to sell more, and the people who choose not to use them will be paying more taxes to keep these people. Right now it costs the governments approximately half a million dollars a year for the average drug addict. Imagine what the costs would be if drugs were condoned

 

[angrymime666]

I find such arguments silly

Perhaps we should allow people to drive on whatever side of the street they choose ?

Intelligent limits to freedoms to destroy oneself have to be imposed for the good of all

Anyways, that is another thread

Anybody have any experience with psychedelics ? good or bad.

I am particularly interested in ayahuasca

This psychedelic is huge industry in Brazil and other South and Central America countries as tourists pilgrimage world wide to ayahuasca retreats.

Ive experienced acid, truffles(philosopher stones) and magic mushrooms.

I had a great time with every experience. mind you; I havent done them much these days, but occasionally do so on holidays in holland.

if they were much more available to me in canada I would probably indulge more often. Im a 420 guy but do enjoy the psychedelics in moderation. no booze.

 

[angrymime666]

Im all about everything in moderation, but what gives someone the right to tell me what I cannot or can injest if its not hurting me?

drugs, boose, cigarettes, cheeseburgers, junk food......

these are all merely symptoms of a bigger problem that is being soothed with the above vices.

if I am a competent responsible adult and can regulate my behavior, why should I be prevented from doing what I choose?

 

[Yoga Face]

Ive experienced acid, truffles(philosopher stones) and magic mushrooms.

I had a great time with every experience. mind you; I havent done them much these days, but occasionally do so on holidays in holland.

if they were much more available to me in canada I would probably indulge more often. Im a 420 guy but do enjoy the psychedelics in moderation. no booze.

now how do you know what is in those drugs?

quality control by the hells angels

 

[red]

No what Im saying that if drugs were allowed to be used freely and controlled buy the government then you end up with a population of sheep controlled by the government. Drugs are additive and destructive, what if say an airline pilot was a crack addict or a doctor is on heroin. Drug abuse cant be eradicated and if you allow people to use any drug when ever they want all you'll have are more drug addicts its just human nature. You wont get rid of the traffickers you'll just give them a platform to sell more, and the people who choose not to use them will be paying more taxes to keep these people. Right now it costs the governments approximately half a million dollars a year for the average drug addict. Imagine what the costs would be if drugs were condoned

It is easier now to get drugs than it is to get alcohol.

Everyone who wants to use drugs is doing so. What if a pilot or doctor was on drugs? They are already. We had a mayor taking crack for gods sake.

Prohibition doesn't work- it just helps criminals. Put an activity in the dark and see the rats scrambling over the cheese.

Education and rehabilitation work- policing doesn't. Human desire will find a way no matter how strict the law. The cost to society would go down- less people in jail, lower police costs, less court time, less people getting shot over drug money, etc

 

[red]

Im all about everything in moderation, but what gives someone the right to tell me what I cannot or can injest if its not hurting me?

drugs, boose, cigarettes, cheeseburgers, junk food......

these are all merely symptoms of a bigger problem that is being soothed with the above vices.

if I am a competent responsible adult and can regulate my behavior, why should I be prevented from doing what I choose?

Thats right. Lets live in a free society

 

[angrymime666]

now how do you know what is in those drugs?

quality control by the hells angels

as stated above I dont come by hallucinogenics that often in canada. most of my consumption has been in holland which is regulated somewhat as far as producing and selling.

in canada, its buyer beware. hence why I only buy from reputable sellers that I have been associated with for years or buy from friends who have already been under the influence of what I am about to purchase.

 

[Yoga Face]

as stated above I dont come by hallucinogenics that often in canada. most of my consumption has been in holland which is regulated somewhat as far as producing and selling.

in canada, its buyer beware. hence why I only buy from reputable sellers that I have been associated with for years or buy from friends who have already been under the influence of what I am about to purchase.

but my concern is quality control

one acid strip may be fine but the next one could be a severe overdose as there is no quality control of proper standard and an overdose can mean death or a vegetative state or whatever

for me, I would be interested in the trip, as I have no doubt good can come out of it, but with no quality control or a back up plan other than someone take you to the hospital where no one knows exactly what you took and you are in the hands of a over stressed med student on a Friday night I say no thanks

 

[red]

but my concern is quality control

one acid strip may be fine but the next one could be a severe overdose as there is no quality control of proper standard and an overdose can mean death or a vegetative state or whatever

for me, I would be interested in the trip, as I have no doubt good can come out of it, but with no quality control or a back up plan other than someone take you to the hospital where no one knows exactly what you took and you are in the hands of a over stressed med student on a Friday night I say no thanks

Isn't this another reason to legalize and regulate it?

People have been getting killed using bad drugs recently- what was it fentanyl?

 

[VIPhunter]

We could take a page, or two out of Brave New World.

Everybody belongs to everyone else (sexually), and Soma (10 cubic cm cures 10 gloomy sentiments)

I know a couple of very pneumatic exotic dancers, come to think of it.