Proof US$ SP pricing as good as ours

bobinthebuff

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As an American hobbiest I wish to be the first to disagree with you. I have travelled to NYC, south Florida and New Orleans in the past month. I always do my homework. I never look for the cheapest SP but I can't afford $1000/hour superescorts. Trust me, $100 US gets me anything I want in TO or the Falls. In the US
its $200 and up. Julies in NYC is the bargain of the US at $200 for upscale incall. Indies in Florida start at $200US and go up to $1500. Prices are higher due to provincial LE concerns IMO.
If you are referring to SW there probably an equal # of girls north or south of the border to perform inexpensively to get their fix but trust me SP are much higher in the states.
PS: don't ever try outcall in Las Vegas unless you have extremely deep pockets.
 

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tbill said:
for some reason people think escorts cost more in the states. they usually point to "pornstar" quality girls to prove their point. these people are obviously uneducated about the "value end" of the US market

PS the loonie has a good shot at movin up cause canada is in better fiscal shape these days. the americans are startin to run deficits while we are runnin surpluses. cross your fingers !!

Let us hope the loonie moves up soon. I'm booked for a 4 day trip to Miami leaving Friday. I've made arrangments based on feedback from the board. One hour @ $350 USD that equals out to $550 CDN.

This is my first time with an SP south of the border, hope it is money well spent!
 

ohioguy

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Prostitution is NOT legal in Las Vegas. It is only legal in certain counties in Nevada, with the closest being about an hour away. While I've never been to a Nevada brothel, a friend of mine told me that you can expect to pay about $300-$500 US for the "house" girls, and $1000 and up for the pornstars that occasionally work in them.

As an American, I have only hobbied a few times in the US, choosing instead to go up north mainly because of the cost due to the exchange rate.

I usually go to the Niagara Falls area where the going rate is around $150 - $160 an hour. After the exchange, that's only roughly $100 out of my pocket. There is absolutely no way you're going to get a quality escort in the US for $100/hr.
 
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bobinthebuff

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TBill

A) If I was Canadian I wouldn't have said I was an American
hobbiest. My handle contains part of an American city. See if you can guess.

B} You have 400 plus posts and you honestly think prostitution is legal in Las Vegas?
 

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tbill said:
balony bobin

first, as i said before i'm not converting dollars, so on that basis Canada wins out, but not by as much as people think. lots of under 200 down south.

obviously, you are gonna have to pay up for porn star quality in both countries, but america has its fair share of value plays, and i bet once you're in the culture you find where to look.

also bobin, you sound like your from canada, if so maybe you just dont have time to do your homework

and i bet flordia has tons of cheap escorts due to its proximity to caribbean

i bet vegas has value plays to cause its legal there. sure if you get off plane and see the first girl who hands you a card, but if you spend a couple days learnin the scene i bet you can score value
tbill, you do crack me up!! So bobinthebuff is full of balony in your words and you want "him" to do his homework!

First, you say Canada wins the exchange rate but not as much as people think...hell, it's a published exchange rate of 1.54, what's there to think about...it's over 50% more..not a lot of majic!! $200 here is worth over $300 there.

Second, you use the term "i bet" four times in "proving" your point, which tells me you don't know...you're guessing. Which means you haven't made the trip to our "fair" country to know what I and every US Hobbiest knows, go NORTH!! I in FACT cross the border for value, selection and LE relaxation.

Your quote from your original post reads:

"these people are obviously uneducated about the "value end" of the US market where i believe prices are as good or better than ours. mind you my theory doesn't take into consideration the difference in the exchange rate. once the loonie hits par with the greenback, look out america !!"

You talk about uneducated people and then go into "i believe" and "my theory"??

You are free to state your opinions as fact, but before criticizing those in the know, some "homework" of your own might be in order.

Of course, this is simply my opinion, yours may vary.
 
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bigmoe69er

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As a Vegas regular (I just got back again today), I can tell you that not only is prostitution illegal in Vegas, but also there are frequent LE undercover operations designed to haul in solicitors. Still, if you know where to go and who to see, Vegas is fabulous! There are new swing clubs such as R&R where you can pay a "membership fee" and "rent" services. Also, as I've said many times before, Cheetah's strip club can provide more than you would dream is possible! I am anxious to compare the top Toronto strip clubs to Cheetah's. I cannot imagine getting more for the buck than what I get at Cheetah's, but I am coming in with an open mind and wallet! In terms of SPs and MPs, Canada is so far ahead of the U.S. in every way imaginable that it is absurd to suggest otherwise. ---Dr. Moe
 

bobinthebuff

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The media makes abig deal of the incredibly cheap SP's in the Dominican Republic or Cuba for the Canadian travelers. Canada
IMHO is aways away from becoming a third world country. But I know an awful lot of guys from NYC who go to Montreal for a long weekend on a monthly basis because its so much better in quality
{and value} than NYC.

I have a somewhat particular "type" so I do a fair amount of homework, 20-25 years old 100-115 lbs, fit/tan, nonbrunette.
GFE or role playing a big plus.
 

bobinthebuff

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If the loonie ever reaches par with the $ I will retire on my Canadian holdings. But I'm not holding my breath.
 

outtahere

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Yeah, the lower 48's great for making money and working like a dog, but not so hot in the fun department.

You can find an FS SP for a buck and a half down here, but you'd have to be pretty drunk and desperate to want to have fun with her. There are good ones for a lot more, but why even bother with LEs running around?

The Bible freaks (not Christians but haters who bill themselves as Christians) have won so completely and pervasively down here that it isn't even worth trying. I'd rather travel.
 

ohioguy

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Yeah, LE is a big worry down here for both the hobbyist and the SP. While I'm not a Canadian legal expert, I am under the assumption that you're pretty safe if you call a reputable agency or independent for an outcall appointment. Canadian officials aren't concerned with what consenting adults do behind closed doors, where US LE are pretty agressive. Because of this, you tend to pay a premium down here.

Also, I have been to NF many times in the last 8-10 months, and have NEVER been asked for a tip up front. If the service is good, I usually give one, but of the 2 US escorts I've seen (1 in NYC, 1 in DC) BOTH asked for more money up front on top of the agency fee. In one of the cases, she asked for an amount equal to the agency fee I just paid. Neither could hold a candle to the very few less than stellar times I've had in NF.
 

xarir

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Ross said:
Well, first off, I don't understand why tbill did NOT take the exchange rate into account.
It's not always fair to convert currencies based on exchange rates. You have to take into account cost of living more than anything else.

As an example, I recently bought some cheap CDs at HMV. They cost me $7.99 each (plus taxes of course). A couple of weeks back I was in Europe (France & Germany) and saw the exact same CDs for 7.99 Euros each. Then in England I saw, you guessed it, the exact same CDs but this time for 7.99 pounds sterling each.

Now based solely on exchange rate, these $7.99 CDs are roughly $12.30 in France & Germany and a whopping $19.47 in the UK. I'll bet these CDs are probably $6.99 in US which is still roughly $11 Canadian.

But at the same time, if I were to earn a salary of say, $50,000 here in Canada, chances are I'd be making roughly 50,000 Euros in France or Germany, or 50K pounds in England or $50K US down south.

Now that's not always true of course, but generally for a job you don't really adjust for currency conversions.

My point is, a loaf of bread costs about 1 unit of currency where ever you are. A new CD costs roughly 20 units. A movie will run you 10 units of currency. So it's not too surprising that an SP will cost you at least 250 - 300 units of currency.
 

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Ross said:
All I'm saying is that if some were to head down to the US just to go see an SP, then they're wasting their money because of difference in exchange rates. but if they're down there anyway, they want to see someone NOW, then go for it!
I find myself in full agreement with you Ross. In any case, my original comments were not directed at you, but more to further the general discussion on point you just made in your latest post.

Tbill - regarding the mistresses, I don't have any firsthand knowledge of this, nor have I every heard from anyone on this point. But I'd find it hard to believe that it's easier to find women who will throw themselves at you. From a statistical perspective one could argure that it might be true given the population of the US vs pop of Canada. But I just can't see American women being that gullible / willing. IMHO of course.
 
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