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PRESIDENT CLINTON: Good evening.
Earlier today, I ordered America's armed forces to strike military and security targets in Iraq. They are joined by British forces. Their mission is to attack Iraq's nuclear, chemical and biological weapons programs and its military capacity to threaten its neighbors.

Their purpose is to protect the national interest of the United States, and indeed the interests of people throughout the Middle East and around the world.

Saddam Hussein must not be allowed to threaten his neighbors or the world with nuclear arms, poison gas or biological weapons.
I want to explain why I have decided, with the unanimous recommendation of my national security team, to use force in Iraq; why we have acted now; and what we aim to accomplish.

Six weeks ago, Saddam Hussein announced that he would no longer cooperate with the United Nations weapons inspectors called UNSCOM. They are highly professional experts from dozens of countries. Their job is to oversee the elimination of Iraq's capability to retain, create and use weapons of mass destruction, and to verify that Iraq does not attempt to rebuild that capability. The inspectors undertook this mission first 7 1/2 years ago at the end of the Gulf War when Iraq agreed to declare and destroy its arsenal as a condition of the ceasefire.

The international community had good reason to set this requirement. Other countries possess weapons of mass destruction and ballistic missiles. With Saddam, there is one big difference: He has used them. Not once, but repeatedly. Unleashing chemical weapons against Iranian troops during a decade-long war. Not only against soldiers, but against civilians, firing Scud missiles at the citizens of Israel, Saudi Arabia, Bahrain and Iran. And not only against a foreign enemy, but even against his own people, gassing Kurdish civilians in Northern Iraq.

The international community had little doubt then, and I have no doubt today, that left unchecked, Saddam Hussein will use these terrible weapons again.

The United States has patiently worked to preserve UNSCOM as Iraq has sought to avoid its obligation to cooperate with the inspectors. On occasion, we've had to threaten military force, and Saddam has backed down.
Faced with Saddam's latest act of defiance in late October, we built intensive diplomatic pressure on Iraq backed by overwhelming military force in the region. The UN Security Council voted 15 to zero to condemn Saddam's actions and to demand that he immediately come into compliance.
Eight Arab nations -- Egypt, Syria, Saudi Arabia, Kuwait, Bahrain, Qatar, United Arab Emirates and Oman -- warned that Iraq alone would bear responsibility for the consequences of defying the UN.

When Saddam still failed to comply, we prepared to act militarily. It was only then at the last possible moment that Iraq backed down. It pledged to the UN that it had made, and I quote, a clear and unconditional decision to resume cooperation with the weapons inspectors.

I decided then to call off the attack with our airplanes already in the air because Saddam had given in to our demands. I concluded then that the right thing to do was to use restraint and give Saddam one last chance to prove his willingness to cooperate.

I made it very clear at that time what unconditional cooperation meant, based on existing UN resolutions and Iraq's own commitments. And along with Prime Minister Blair of Great Britain, I made it equally clear that if Saddam failed to cooperate fully, we would be prepared to act without delay, diplomacy or warning.

Now over the past three weeks, the UN weapons inspectors have carried out their plan for testing Iraq's cooperation. The testing period ended this weekend, and last night, UNSCOM's chairman, Richard Butler, reported the results to UN Secretary-General Annan.

The conclusions are stark, sobering and profoundly disturbing. In four out of the five categories set forth, Iraq has failed to cooperate. Indeed, it actually has placed new restrictions on the inspectors. Here are some of the particulars.

Iraq repeatedly blocked UNSCOM from inspecting suspect sites. For example, it shut off access to the headquarters of its ruling party and said it will deny access to the party's other offices, even though UN resolutions make no exception for them and UNSCOM has inspected them in the past. Iraq repeatedly restricted UNSCOM's ability to obtain necessary evidence.


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Clinton's address continued:

For example, Iraq obstructed UNSCOM's effort to photograph bombs related to its chemical weapons program. It tried to stop an UNSCOM biological weapons team from videotaping a site and photocopying documents and prevented Iraqi personnel from answering UNSCOM's questions. Prior to the inspection of another site, Iraq actually emptied out the building, removing not just documents but even the furniture and the equipment. Iraq has failed to turn over virtually all the documents requested by the inspectors. Indeed, we know that Iraq ordered the destruction of weapons-related documents in anticipation of an UNSCOM inspection.

So Iraq has abused its final chance. As the UNSCOM reports concludes, and again I quote, "Iraq's conduct ensured that no progress was able to be made in the fields of disarmament. In light of this experience, and in the absence of full cooperation by Iraq, it must regrettably be recorded again that the commission is not able to conduct the work mandated to it by the Security Council with respect to Iraq's prohibited weapons program." In short, the inspectors are saying that even if they could stay in Iraq, their work would be a sham.Saddam's deception has defeated their effectiveness.
Instead of the inspectors disarming Saddam, Saddam has disarmed the inspectors. This situation presents a clear and present danger to the stability of the Persian Gulf and the safety of people everywhere. The international community gave Saddam one last chance to resume cooperation with the weapons inspectors. Saddam has failed to seize the chance. And so we had to act and act now.

Let me explain why.

First, without a strong inspection system, Iraq would be free to retain and begin to rebuild its chemical, biological and nuclear weapons programs in months, not years.

Second, if Saddam can crippled the weapons inspection system and get away with it, he would conclude that the international community -- led by the United States -- has simply lost its will. He will surmise that he has free rein to rebuild his arsenal of destruction, and someday -- make no mistake -- he will use it again as he has in the past.

Third, in halting our air strikes in November, I gave Saddam a chance, not a license. If we turn our backs on his defiance, the credibility of U.S. power as a check against Saddam will be destroyed. We will not only have allowed Saddam to shatter the inspection system that controls his weapons of mass destruction program; we also will have fatally undercut the fear of force that stops Saddam from acting to gain domination in the region.

That is why, on the unanimous recommendation of my national security team -- including the vice president, the secretary of defense, the chairman of the joint chiefs of staff, the secretary of state and the national security adviser -- I have ordered a strong, sustained series of air strikes against Iraq. They are designed to degrade Saddam's capacity to develop and deliver weapons of mass destruction, and to degrade his ability to threaten his neighbors.

At the same time, we are delivering a powerful message to Saddam. If you act recklessly, you will pay a heavy price. We acted today because, in the judgment of my military advisers, a swift response would provide the most surprise and the least opportunity for Saddam to prepare. If we had delayed for even a matter of days from Chairman Butler's report, we would have given Saddam more time to disperse his forces and protect his weapons.
Also, the Muslim holy month of Ramadan begins this weekend. For us to initiate military action during Ramadan would be profoundly offensive to the Muslim world and, therefore, would damage our relations with Arab countries and the progress we have made in the Middle East. That is something we wanted very much to avoid without giving Iraq a month's head start to prepare for potential action against it.

Finally, our allies, including Prime Minister Tony Blair of Great Britain, concurred that now is the time to strike. I hope Saddam will come into cooperation with the inspection system now and comply with the relevant UN Security Council resolutions. But we have to be prepared that he will not, and we must deal with the very real danger he poses.

So we will pursue a long-term strategy to contain Iraq and its weapons of mass destruction and work toward the day when Iraq has a government worthy of its people.



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Clinton's address continued:

First, we must be prepared to use force again if Saddam takes threatening actions, such as trying to reconstitute his weapons of mass destruction or their delivery systems, threatening his neighbors, challenging allied aircraft over Iraq or moving against his own Kurdish citizens. The credible threat to use force, and when necessary, the actual use of force, is the surest way to contain Saddam's weapons of mass destruction program, curtail his aggression and prevent another Gulf War.

Second, so long as Iraq remains out of compliance, we will work with the international community to maintain and enforce economic sanctions. Sanctions have cost Saddam more than $120 billion -- resources that would have been used to rebuild his military. The sanctions system allows Iraq to sell oil for food, for medicine, for other humanitarian supplies for the Iraqi people. We have no quarrel with them. But without the sanctions, we would see the oil-for-food program become oil-for-tanks, resulting in a greater threat to Iraq's neighbors and less food for its people.

The hard fact is that so long as Saddam remains in power, he threatens the well-being of his people, the peace of his region, the security of the world. The best way to end that threat once and for all is with a new Iraqi government -- a government ready to live in peace with its neighbors, a government that respects the rights of its people. Bringing change in Baghdad will take time and effort. We will strengthen our engagement with the full range of Iraqi opposition forces and work with them effectively and prudently.

The decision to use force is never cost-free. Whenever American forces are placed in harm's way, we risk the loss of life. And while our strikes are focused on Iraq's military capabilities, there will be unintended Iraqi casualties. Indeed, in the past, Saddam has intentionally placed Iraqi civilians in harm's way in a cynical bid to sway international opinion. We must be prepared for these realities. At the same time, Saddam should have absolutely no doubt if he lashes out at his neighbors, we will respond forcefully. Heavy as they are, the costs of action must be weighed against the price of inaction.

If Saddam defies the world and we fail to respond, we will face a far greater threat in the future. Saddam will strike again at his neighbors. He will make war on his own people. And mark my words, he will develop weapons of mass destruction. He will deploy them, and he will use them. Because we're acting today, it is less likely that we will face these dangers in the future.

Let me close by addressing one other issue. Saddam Hussein and the other enemies of peace may have thought that the serious debate currently before the House of Representatives would distract Americans or weaken our resolve to face him down.

But once more, the United States has proven that although we are never eager to use force, when we must act in America's vital interests, we will do so. In the century we're leaving, America has often made the difference between chaos and community, fear and hope. Now, in the new century, we'll have a remarkable opportunity to shape a future more peaceful than the past, but only if we stand strong against the enemies of peace.
Tonight, the United States is doing just that.

May God bless and protect the brave men and women who are carrying out this vital mission and their families. And may God bless America.
 

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Boy I Sure Miss Bill Clinton!

I can just picture Bill giving the above, well written, coherent, address masterfully to the world as only Bill could. Those past traits are sorely missed only to be replaced by the babbling, bumbling, buffoon Bush who on an almost daily basis mangles the Kings English as only he can.

That being said one can only conclude, both Clinton & Bush received bogus, false, phony intel from our intelligence services.

The results of those actions on bad intel are:

Clinton got a few people killed.

Bush got over 100,000 Iraqis plus 1,700 US Troops killed, and counting......with no end in sight.

So you be the judge on who handled things better.
 

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Politics aside for a second. I think it is highly irresponsible and dishonest to pin 9-11 solely on the "inaction" of Bill Clinton. Everyone knows there were innumerable reasons for this insane act and to single out Clinton as the man most responsible for it is just wrong, in my opinion.
 

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lenharper said:
Politics aside for a second. I think it is highly irresponsible and dishonest to pin 9-11 solely on the "inaction" of Bill Clinton. Everyone knows there were innumerable reasons for this insane act and to single out Clinton as the man most responsible for it is just wrong, in my opinion.
Yeah..maybe to make him solely responsible is wrong, but he certainly has part of the blame to share.

Your statement is correct.
 

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langeweile said:
Cinton's inaction resulted in 9-11 :mad:
BULLSHIT!!!

If anything Reagans' actions resulted in 9/11 !

A more compelling case can be made that Ronnie Reagan's betrayal of Osama, Reagan's ally then (remember Osama, that Saudi guy that actually attacked the WTC) after the USSR Afghan War in the 80's resulted in 9/11 !
Remember it was Reagan, Cheney, Rummy, Dad of Dubya, among others that created Osama Bin Laden and had promised to aid Osama in the rebuilding of Afghanistan after that War. After the USSR pulled out in failure Reagan et al., just reneged on their promises and left Osama holding the bag which resulted in the emergence of the Taliban and all the terror they unleashed there.
 

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WoodPeckr said:
BULLSHIT!!!

A more compelling case can be made the Ronnie Reagan's betrayal of Osama, Reagan's ally then (remember Osama, that Saudi guy that actually attacked the WTC) after the USSR Afghan War in the 80's resulted in 9/11 !
Remember it was Reagan, Cheney, Rummy, Dad of Dubya, among others that created Osama Bin Laden and had promised to aid Osama in the rebuilding of Afghanistan after that War. After the USSR pulled out in failure Reagan et al., just reneged on their promises and left Osama holding the bag which resulted in the emergence of the Taliban and all the terror they unleashed there.
Oh come on stop defending the party line...are you seriously saying that wecan blame Reagan, Bush Sr. and Junior but we conviniently skip the eight years of Clinton. give me a break!
i agree that all the above share some of the blame. There were things done, that at the time seem right, but were wrong in retrospect. i give you that and I won't defend anybody that is proven guilty.
But to forget about Clinton is just plain wrong. Like many other politicians at the time he simply didn't take the threat seriously.
How about USS Cole and WTC 1?
 

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lange,
It's all in the history books. Reagan created OBL and got this whole thing going in the first place with his 'nationbuilding.' Reagan used OBL to get at the USSR then abandoned him when that war ended.
 

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9-11 was nobody's fault. Nobody could have anticipated the methodology involved. And if they could- what could they have done as a preventative measure that would have been politically sellable ? The Bush admin has been fighting an uphill political battle to prosecute the War on Terror after 9-11, and travellers still scream at airport security in indignation when they're prevented from bringing sharp objects aboard airplanes.

On the other hand, it's undeniable that the ACLU et al. would have been much more indulgent with Clinton than Bush, and would never accuse their boy (or girl) of plotting to enslave Americans in neo-Gulags. A possible advantage of having a pro-defense Dem in the White House is that, as a hawk he/she would face little opposition from the Right, but as a Dem would face little scrutiny from the Left.
 

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On the other hand, it's undeniable that the ACLU et al. would have been much more indulgent with Clinton than Bush...
I really love it when you make these blanket statement of opinion and present them as facts. Undeniable? Haw!


Truncador said:
The Bush admin has been fighting an uphill political battle to prosecute the War on Terror after 9-11, ...
Ya know, what? Believe it or not, I was WAY behind Shrub when he went after the Taliban, who harboured and supported Osama. I had three friends die in WTC Tower #1. I was on one of those fligfhts just one week before 9-11.

Quite simple, it was Al Qaeda that did 911, not Saddam. The hijackers were mostly Saudis, who you may have noticed, the Shrub cozies up to at every opportunity.

When he went after Iraq to "prosecute the war on terror," Bush lost me. The fact that Bush says he "doesn't think about Bin Laden," absoultely galls me. Why Osama and Mullah Omar are still alive, and yet we have tens of thousands of troops in Iraq, is an absolute travesty and a colossal tragedy.

Yes, Bush is fighting an uphill batlle, one for which he has himself and the neocons -- YOUR intellectual heros -- to blame. But of course, we have yet to see the Bushies take any responsibility for their actions or say that they made a mistake, have we?
 

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Cinema Face said:
PRESIDENT CLINTON: Good evening.
Earlier today, I ordered America's armed forces to strike military and security targets in Iraq. They are joined by British forces. Their mission is to attack Iraq's nuclear, chemical and biological weapons programs and its military capacity to threaten its neighbors. ...
I know that somehow some members on this board believe that if both the right and left political parties in the US agree on something then it must be legitimate and right. But let it be known that both parties in the US had close to the same destructive policy on Iraq. And that was regime change. WMD, UN inspections were only a false front to carry out this policy. Targets during operation Desert Fox had nothing to do with weapon manufacturing and everything to do with weakening Iraqi leadership.

Six weeks ago, Saddam Hussein announced that he would no longer cooperate with the United Nations weapons inspectors called UNSCOM.
Iraq stopped fully cooperating claiming that the weapon inspectors were a front for US spies. When I first heard this I thought it was a pathetic excuse to hide something. But then more info started coming out. It turned out that there were in fact CIA agents on the inspection team. Ex UN chief weapons inspector Scott Ritter claimed that the chief inspector, R. Butler in 1998 was assisting the agent on intelligence gathering which had nothing to do with WMD manufacturing. The intelligence however, had everything to do with the Iraqi military and infrastructure targets chosen for US bombs during operation Desert Fox.
Regime change was the motive for battle in 1998. WMD and US security was not the issue.
 

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langeweile said:
Cinton's inaction resulted in 9-11 :mad:
Clinton FIRED Richard Clark? News to me... Clinton went chopping wood for a month when a brief was put in front of his staff that Ossama was about to attack the USA? ...more NEWS...what a bunch of baloney...not even good German sausage...
 

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TOVisitor said:
... were mostly Saudis, who you may have noticed, the Shrub cozies up to at every opportunity.
ahem...I can't let this one minor detail go uncorrected...the cat's paw took out the Lebonese Prime Minister In Feb., and he was a Saudi... but his mistake was simple....he was fated to be worth more dead than alive...nothing personal you understand... just taking care of business...
 

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Mcluhan said:
Clinton FIRED Richard Clark? News to me... Clinton went chopping wood for a month when a brief was put in front of his staff that Ossama was about to attack the USA? ...more NEWS...what a bunch of baloney...not even good German sausage...
Either way you twist it and turn it. Clinton deserves as much of the blame as Reagan, Bush Sr. and Bush jr..
After USS Cole what was his reaction? what did he do after WTC1??? The answer is... reading polls and getting a blowjob.
Sorry McLuhan you are not sincere if you let him of the hook.

Having said that..in reality you can only blame them in hindsight...yes hinsight the wisdom of the meek.

Imagine Bush or Clinton taking office and declaring that we have to enact the patriot act, because we think there is a threat to America???
The hacks on either side would have had a field day. The truth of the matter is, that even your wildest imagination nobody could have imagined 9-11.

BTW did you live in Europe when Baader-Meinhoff was around?? Who could have imagined what they did?
 

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Either way you twist it and turn it. Clinton deserves as much of the blame as Reagan, Bush Sr. and Bush jr..
After USS Cole what was his reaction? what did he do after WTC1??? The answer is... reading polls and getting a blowjob.
Sorry McLuhan you are not sincere if you let him of the hook.

Having said that..in reality you can only blame them in hindsight...yes hinsight the wisdom of the meek.

Imagine Bush or Clinton taking office and declaring that we have to enact the patriot act, because we think there is a threat to America???
The hacks on either side would have had a field day. The truth of the matter is, that even your wildest imagination nobody could have imagined 9-11.

BTW did you live in Europe when Baader-Meinhoff was around?? Who could have imagined what they did?
Okay. lange i'll give you some points here. For one thing I do not suffer this sickness of supporting Dems over GOP blindly, or visa versa. My gig is pretty simple, the MIC is running your new Fatherland, and it's a menace to civilization. Period.

BTW, now that it appears we are actually having a civil conversation now and again, could you do me a favor? Change your tag line. The humor is so base it make me wince. I'm sure that makes you happy.

Clinton is intelligent, probably the most brilliant American politician of the last century. Bush is an incompetent moron. The fact that the American people voted him in TWICE is a global disaster. If you support a moron, you are a moron in my book. What else can I say. At least I’m honest.
 

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My take...

I thought this speech was interesting to say the least and worthy of a terbite political discussion. I remember when he gave it. I thought it might remind some people who are, shall we say, “historically challenged” and forgot that Clinton also attacked Iraq as well as many other places.

Typical responses from the typical sources.


My take on this:

Clinton did largely the same thing Bush did for the same official reasons. He chose to do the democrat, safe thing, (read: cowardly) and bomb Iraq from a safe distance. He killed people and blew up stuff with minimum casualties but otherwise accomplished nothing.

Bush on the other hand, achieved the objective and did a systematic invasion, removed Saddam and his legacy, setup a democratic government and is in the process of rebuilding the country. It wasn’t the “safe” way. It was expensive, messy and bloody.

People accuse Bush of having a hidden agenda. Let’s look at Clinton’s agenda. Consider the timing. This was in the peak of the Monica Lewinsky thing and Clinton needed a diversion, so he bombed Iraq (read: kill innocent people to save his political ass). He says Saddam wasn’t complying with the inspectors. Saddam never once complied. Why bomb them then? Clinton needed the diversion, that’s why.

Why was England there with him? To understand the answer you need to remember that 6 months after this “war” Clinton and Blair announced that the US was giving England cruise missile technology. That’s why England was there, they made a deal to support the US and in turn they get cruise missiles

I also think that to all the Clinton lovers, Bush haters that harp on the Iraq war, this must be a real kick in the ass for them.

And BTW, Clinton does deserve some of the blame for 911 because 911 was supposed to be a retaliation for when he bombed Afghanistan and Sudan. Also, under Clinton AQ got organized and powerful under the leadership of OBL while Clinton did nothing.

But I stress that he deserves only some of the blame because I think it was inevitable that Islamic fundamentalists would attack US soil.
 

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Mcluhan said:
The fact that the American people voted him in TWICE is a global disaster. If you support a moron, you are a moron in my book. What else can I say. At least I’m honest.
Bush might leave a lot to be desired for, maybe.
Look at the options:
Al Gore?? The "Lockbox guy". His own state didn't vote for him, ever wondered why?
John Kerry?? Sorry, but even more than Bush he is a spoiled rich kid, that is so far detached from real life as you can get.

I think Bush got elected by default, he was the lesser of the three evils.
 
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