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I think this is a typical GM nomenclature thing. In 64/65 I believe the 327 was called L-76, then L-79. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chevrolet_small-block_engine#327
In 2005-2009 there was an engine called the L76 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LS_based_GM_small-block_engine

Same idea as the famed LT-1. The 70s it was the LT-1 and in the 90s/00s it was called the LT1

I had a 66 vette with a L-79. The RPO code was "L79" but the tag under the hood and show documentation said "L-79". I looked through a couple of Chevy engine books I have and they used both descriptors. Who knows which is right as GM themselves used both interchangeably.

The 327 L76 featured 365 HP in my model year. The 327 L79 was also available in the same model year on my car and featured 350 hp. Both engines were 11:1 compression ratio. The L76 was more common on the vehicle. The L76 and the L79 were virtually identical except for the cam . The 76 was the older variant which featured solid lifters as opposed to the new L79 which featured hydraulic lifters.

The 327 is a wonderful motor. You can easily modify it to go from 365 hp to 500 hp (if you choose to blaspheme) simply by changing out the factory cam and investing in a set of modern Aluminum heads.
 
https://www.bellperformance.com/blog/bid/101182/What-Does-Octane-Do-In-Gasoline-Octane-Ratings

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From the exact article you just posted:

So, octane does not enhance the explosion in the cylinder like most people think. What does octane do? It just prevents the air-fuel mixture from igniting before the spark plug does it. Firing the air-fuel mixture at the proper time gives you the maximum power your engine was designed to get
Exactly what I've been saying all along, you get the maximum performance out of your engine if you use premium.

Good to see you finally agree with me, fuji :applouse:
 
From the exact article you just posted:


Exactly what I've been saying all along, you get the maximum performance out of your engine if you use premium.

Good to see you finally agree with me, fuji :applouse:

It was HEY HEY who posted the link and you should read it again.
 
It was HEY HEY who posted the link and you should read it again
No, its you who didnt read the article. Here it is again:

What does octane do? It just prevents the air-fuel mixture from igniting before the spark plug does it. Firing the air-fuel mixture at the proper time gives you the maximum power your engine was designed to get
 
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The octane rating of gasoline essentially tells you how much the air-fuel mixture can be compressed before it will spontaneously ignite.

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So, octane does not enhance the explosion in the cylinder like most people think. What does octane do? It just prevents the air-fuel mixture from igniting before the spark plug does it. Firing the air-fuel mixture at the proper time gives you the maximum power your engine was designed to get

This is the key ---> Octane is a measure of the fuel to resist pre-detonation. That's the only relevant point in that article to this discussion and the article is absolutely miss-leading.

Pre-detonation can occur to ANY car when: too high cylinder compression, too high cylinder temperatures, too advanced timing or engine is experiencing too high a load. Modern cars (including non-performance cars) have several ways to deal with this, the most common is to reduce timing advance to make less power and cool down the engine. More advanced engines can also adjust cam timing, reduce fuel mixture, reduce throttle, increase cooling fans on the rad, etc.

Engines are pumps, the more fuel and air you can get into it, the more power it will make (all else being equal). Compared to ancient L-76s and L-79s which relied on STATIC compression and vacuum/mechanical advances to spark timing, many/most modern engines use variable cam timing, variable lift and changes in cam overlap that modifies actual compression ratio, increase fuel injector time, electronic spark timing and in some cases forced induction (supercharger, turbocharger). Several sensors are used to control all this; prevent detonation, prevent overheating, optimize fuel/oxygen ratio, maximize fuel economy and reduce emissions. Modern engines are incredibly sophisticated and are ideal example of a closed-loop control system. FYI: it was Canadian engineers that developed allot of this technology for the big name manufacturers.

By running higher octane fuel, the engine computer can use a more aggressive mapping that results in noticeably more horsepower and improved throttle response and contrary to most people's thinking, improved fuel economy (efficiency is the key). Octane is the enabler, which allows for increased fuel/air that makes the additional power. On a performance car the difference in factory programming can be 20-50 HP and with aftermarket ECM code 100+ horsepower.

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Using higher-octane gasoline than your engine is designed to utilize is only wasting your money.
^-- ONLY TRUE for engines that don't use the technologies I described above. For most non-performance engines, there is no benefit to running higher octane fuel, including for the "cleaning" benefits.
 
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That would mean your engine knocks with regular gas .

Hint: it doesn't.

You are sorta-right, but for all the wrong reasons! Even a non-performance car can knock. High temperatures caused by high loads are the main causes. For example, when traveling up a hill on a warm day, especially so with the air-conditioning on or 4 people in the car. Knock also often occurs during medium/high acceleration on a hot day. You don't notice the knock because the car's computer steps in to prevent it, but at the expense of power, fuel economy and emissions.

Even the cheapest car on the road (as long as it's made in the last ~25 years) will have a knock sensor. When the computer senses knock, it will retard timing to reduce engine power to reduce load and allow it to cool. In order to achieve best fuel economy, even inexpensive modern cars run fairly high static compression ratios and therefore are more prone to knock. In the old days 8:5-9 to 1 ratio in non-performance motors was the norm. Most modern cars are 9-10 to 1.
 
The 327 L76 featured 365 HP in my model year. The 327 L79 was also available in the same model year on my car and featured 350 hp. Both engines were 11:1 compression ratio. The L76 was more common on the vehicle. The L76 and the L79 were virtually identical except for the cam . The 76 was the older variant which featured solid lifters as opposed to the new L79 which featured hydraulic lifters.

The 327 is a wonderful motor. You can easily modify it to go from 365 hp to 500 hp (if you choose to blaspheme) simply by changing out the factory cam and investing in a set of modern Aluminum heads.

I agree, the 327 was an incredible engine, but the 427 .... that was the ultimate for me.

Keep in mind that the 365 HP is gross rating and can't be directly compared to modern cars (net HP). Our old motors were 20-25% lower by today's standards - 275-290 HP and is reflected in the slow stock 0-60 numbers. Only reason they broke 7 seconds was 3:73 or steeper rear end ratios. Half of today's friggin minivans and SUVs produce the same or more power and many can out-run our old muscle cars while getting 3X the fuel economy. F*ck!