Poll: Half of Americans now predict U.S. may 'cease to be a democracy' someday

[Frankfooter]

This isn't surprising.
The dems think the GOP is trying to destroy democracy to win power.
The GOP thinks they can only save the country by destroying democracy


A new Yahoo News/YouGov poll shows that most Democrats (55%) and Republicans (53%) now believe it is “likely” that America will “cease to be a democracy in the future” — a stunning expression of bipartisan despair about the direction of the country.

Half of all Americans (49%) express the same sentiment when independents and those who do not declare any political affiliation are factored in, while just a quarter (25%) consider the end of U.S. democracy unlikely and another quarter (25%) say they’re unsure.

At the same time, however, a large number of Americans seem indifferent to the high-profile hearings by the House committee investigating the Jan. 6, 2021, attack on the Capitol — an effort to get to the bottom of one of the most dramatic assaults on the democratic process in U.S. history.


In fact, the new survey of 1,541 U.S. adults — which was conducted from June 10 (the day after the committee’s first hearing) to June 13 (the day of its second) — found that fewer than 1 in 4 (24%) say they watched last Thursday’s initial primetime broadcast live. Only slightly more (27%) say they caught news coverage later. Nearly half (49%) say they did not follow the hearings at all.

 

[y2kmark]

This isn't surprising.
The dems think the GOP is trying to destroy democracy to win power.
The GOP thinks they can only save the country by destroying democracy


A new Yahoo News/YouGov poll shows that most Democrats (55%) and Republicans (53%) now believe it is “likely” that America will “cease to be a democracy in the future” — a stunning expression of bipartisan despair about the direction of the country.
Half of all Americans (49%) express the same sentiment when independents and those who do not declare any political affiliation are factored in, while just a quarter (25%) consider the end of U.S. democracy unlikely and another quarter (25%) say they’re unsure.
At the same time, however, a large number of Americans seem indifferent to the high-profile hearings by the House committee investigating the Jan. 6, 2021, attack on the Capitol — an effort to get to the bottom of one of the most dramatic assaults on the democratic process in U.S. history.
In fact, the new survey of 1,541 U.S. adults — which was conducted from June 10 (the day after the committee’s first hearing) to June 13 (the day of its second) — found that fewer than 1 in 4 (24%) say they watched last Thursday’s initial primetime broadcast live. Only slightly more (27%) say they caught news coverage later. Nearly half (49%) say they did not follow the hearings at all.

This is what happens when people don't get out and vote, and the thing with the guns, of course...

 

[ottawa_cuck]

This is what happens when people don't get out and vote, and the thing with the guns, of course...

Uniparty always wins. Why bother voting? The choices in 2016 election was Clinton or Trump. 2020 was Biden or Trump. Then in House & Senate you have Nancy Pelosi and Mitch who’s party keeps them there forever. Who the fuck would waste their time?

Guns are forever in that country. You want to try the successful ‘war on drugs’ with a new ‘war on guns’? It’ll be same result. Criminals will still have guns. Liberals also don’t punish criminals so wtf is the plan really

 

[Valcazar]

This isn't surprising.
The dems think the GOP is trying to destroy democracy to win power.
The GOP thinks they can only save the country by destroying democracy

I think you are underselling it.
While there is a contingent of the GOP that just thinks democracy has to be abandoned if it interferes with power, there is also a group of them that feels that the Democrats are pushing to "destroy democracy" (as they understand it, which is "people who agree with us vote and we win").

There is also the ottawa_cuck section of the electorate, who thinks it doesn't matter and can't tell the difference between candidates and parties.

 

[ottawa_cuck]

It doesn’t. Things keep getting worse no matter who is in charge. Coincidence? I think not

There is also the ottawa_cuck section of the electorate, who thinks it doesn't matter

 

[jalimon]

Uniparty always wins. Why bother voting? The choices in 2016 election was Clinton or Trump. 2020 was Biden or Trump. Then in House & Senate you have Nancy Pelosi and Mitch who’s party keeps them there forever. Who the fuck would waste their time?

Guns are forever in that country. You want to try the successful ‘war on drugs’ with a new ‘war on guns’? It’ll be same result. Criminals will still have guns. Liberals also don’t punish criminals so wtf is the plan really

It's not the criminals that kills people. It's the poor and retards.

Ban gun, help the poor and get free healthcare for the retards is what needs to be done. Peanuts.

 

[Darts]

The lefty cancel culture is the greatest threat to democracy.
‘Cancel culture’ may spawn a new, silent voting bloc | The Hill

 

[Frankfooter]

I think you are underselling it.
While there is a contingent of the GOP that just thinks democracy has to be abandoned if it interferes with power, there is also a group of them that feels that the Democrats are pushing to "destroy democracy" (as they understand it, which is "people who agree with us vote and we win").

There is also the ottawa_cuck section of the electorate, who thinks it doesn't matter and can't tell the difference between candidates and parties.

Right, likely half think it has to be abandoned for power and the other half think they have to destroy democracy to save democracy.
That sounds about right with the views on this board.

Amazing to think that they were only 40 ft away from Pence and only Pence's actions saved US democracy this time.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1537874110927224833

 

[Valcazar]

The lefty cancel culture is the greatest threat to democracy.
‘Cancel culture’ may spawn a new, silent voting bloc | The Hill

Everyone should read this.
Great attempt to use culture war issues to argue that Trump was going to win the election.

 

[Leimonis]

Dennis M. Powell was retained for six years by Trump Entertainment Resorts in a marketing capacity.

 

[mjg1]

This isn't surprising.
The dems think the GOP is trying to destroy democracy to win power.
The GOP thinks they can only save the country by destroying democracy


A new Yahoo News/YouGov poll shows that most Democrats (55%) and Republicans (53%) now believe it is “likely” that America will “cease to be a democracy in the future” — a stunning expression of bipartisan despair about the direction of the country.
Half of all Americans (49%) express the same sentiment when independents and those who do not declare any political affiliation are factored in, while just a quarter (25%) consider the end of U.S. democracy unlikely and another quarter (25%) say they’re unsure.
At the same time, however, a large number of Americans seem indifferent to the high-profile hearings by the House committee investigating the Jan. 6, 2021, attack on the Capitol — an effort to get to the bottom of one of the most dramatic assaults on the democratic process in U.S. history.
In fact, the new survey of 1,541 U.S. adults — which was conducted from June 10 (the day after the committee’s first hearing) to June 13 (the day of its second) — found that fewer than 1 in 4 (24%) say they watched last Thursday’s initial primetime broadcast live. Only slightly more (27%) say they caught news coverage later. Nearly half (49%) say they did not follow the hearings at all.

So true!
Dems - Gov't can be good and help people.
Reps - Gov't is bad and put us in charge and we will show how bad it is.

 

[Darts]

Proposition 8 was an exercise in democracy that got nullified by the courts. Why do we bother with referenda and elections when the results could be nullified by the courts? Why don't we just ask the courts who should be the next president of the U.S. instead of holding an election?

 

[Frankfooter]

Proposition 8 was an exercise in democracy that got nullified by the courts. Why do we bother with referenda and elections when the results could be nullified by the courts? Why don't we just ask the courts who should be the next president of the U.S. instead of holding an election?

That's rump's plan all along. But first he had to put some total arsewipe judges in place at the SC.
Then lose another election but see if the SC can overturn it.

 

[Valcazar]

Proposition 8 was an exercise in democracy that got nullified by the courts. Why do we bother with referenda and elections when the results could be nullified by the courts? Why don't we just ask the courts who should be the next president of the U.S. instead of holding an election?

So you are against judicial review and input?
(I presume you are also against the Federal bill of rights, then?)
Do you want to go entirely to everything by direct democracy?
How do you want to settle disputes between the states if you want courts to have no role?
What's your view of how things should work, Darts? It sounds pretty radical.

That's rump's plan all along. But first he had to put some total arsewipe judges in place at the SC.
Then lose another election but see if the SC can overturn it.

I disagree.
His plan wasn't that the courts should select the president all along.
He was perfectly happy to have that happen if it kept him in power, but it wasn't like the plan from the beginning was to lose and have the court overrule it.

 

[Darts]

Unless there is fraud and/or something nefarious, then the result of a referendum and/or election should be respected.

Isn't that the raison d'etre of a democracy? If not, why bother holding referenda and elections? In that case, let's let the courts choose our government representatives and write our laws.

 

[Darts]

I lived through one referendum in Canada (Quebec). It was an interesting exercise in democracy. One of the hotly debated issue was whether Quebec had the legal right to unilaterally secede (Lincoln said no). So, the question was: could the courts nullify the results if the referendum went the "wrong way"?

Later, Prime Minister Chretien sought clarity from the court.
Clarity Act - Wikipedia

 

[Darts]

Another case in front of the courts. Trudeau abdicated his responsibility by saying it should be resolved by the courts and not by the Prime Minister.
What Is Quebec’s Secularism Law? Everything You Need To Know (chatelaine.com)

 

[Frankfooter]

I disagree.
His plan wasn't that the courts should select the president all along.
He was perfectly happy to have that happen if it kept him in power, but it wasn't like the plan from the beginning was to lose and have the court overrule it.

Ok, his plan isn't to lose, its to win.
But he knows he can't get more than his base to vote for him and even with the EC he needs to get some electors removed.
That's when he needs the SC, to legitimize Eastman type, illegal moves.

 

[Valcazar]

I lived through one referendum in Canada (Quebec). It was an interesting exercise in democracy. One of the hotly debated issue was whether Quebec had the legal right to unilaterally secede (Lincoln said no). So, the question was: could the courts nullify the results if the referendum went the "wrong way"?

Later, Prime Minister Chretien sought clarity from the court.
Clarity Act - Wikipedia

Which you oppose, presumably.
Allowing a court to weigh in on something like that is bad.

So you're basically a "parliamentary supremacy" guy?

 

[Ceiling Cat]

When Trump sent the insurrectionist to the Capitol Building, democracy was suspended under his orders. Democracy was resumed when the insurrectionist was not able to overcome the rightfully elected government.