I usually do not get involved in any way with flaming. I do not care if the afore mentioned poster was rude or not. I find it interesting that instead of giving an answer, some people will go to the effort of typing in a post admonishing other posters, because in their opinon, a thorough enough search was not conducted. If someone feels so passionatly that people must meet some sort of search criteria before asking a question then I suggest that you develop the criteria for what a "proper" search entails, including how many posts one must read, how far one must go back in history, and how it will be verified that a poster did indeed do his or her required search before being allowed the privledge of posting a question. You could then present it to an administrator and perhaps it could be stickied. After you develop your criteria we will all know how to ask those particular types of questions properly, and you could make it official TERB policy. I am sure that this procedure would encourge many people not to post on terb, but what do I know, I didn't search to see if there were posts on the topic. If this has already been done and I am repeating myself by not searching for searches with the search function, now or in the future, then I apologise publicly in writing. Sorry. (Thinks to self....and what other crap do those picky tight asses complain about....oh yea, use of conventions in the English language) And sory fore mi speling miztakes to. and while Im, at it sorry FOrmy grammer: and Punctuation "not" bein real good always. The next time I break some unspoken rule of protocol please refer back to this post for your apology (you can use the search function to find it).