Pigales report

[R the Man]

Well, I visited Piggies again, and it was overall better than my last visit. Got there around 7, left around 11. There were at least 20 girls in the place, ranging from 6 to 9's.

I had a nice run of dancers with names ending in "a" - Victoria, Nabila (spelling?), Selina, Katrina and Sierra.

Victoria was a South American but Canadianized. Wonderful lush body, smooth latin moves, enhanced (which I don't usually like) D's but good ones. Nabila is an Arabic name but she was all-Canadian. Nice girl, good bod with natural C-Ds. Selina was a tanned (artificial) blondish francophone - gorgeous face, toned body. Katrina was really the one who did it for me. A gorgeous brunette francophone from Montreal, she had what I consider the perfect body...slim, great legs, curvy butt, toned young flesh, and a nice handful of B tits. Sierra was a girl-next-door type, cute but very low mileage.

I like slow sensuous dances and they were all enjoyable. Interestingly, the mileage went down as the evening went on (or at least with my order of dancers). Still, got some good tit-sucking, pole-on-top-of-pants touching, a bit of kitty teasing and touching, and lots of grinding. I got at least 3 dances from each, except for Sierra - she was disappointing in mileage - didn't even take her top off till the second dance, so I canned it there.

Anyway, had a good time, and would definitely return, although the mileage (again) was no better than I have gotten from Barefax or Barb's on previous visits.

R.

 

[the_hwyman]

the mileage (again) was no better than I have gotten from Barefax or Barb's on previous visits.

'cause you didn't find the right ones...

 

[R the Man]

Yeah, that's always a problem when you do one-off visits (although not at every club ).

And I can't really be bothered enough to ask every dancer their name to find the better ones from these reviews. I just go after the ones that appeal to me visually or conversationally.

R.

 

[the_hwyman]

And I can't really be bothered enough to ask every dancer their name to find the better ones from these reviews. I just go after the ones that appeal to me visually or conversationally.

I've never gone in looking for a name from a review...but I do take my time and make an analysis...

If I go into a SC and I'm not already targetting to see someone in particular (or they don't happen to be there), I'll hang for ~2 hrs or so just observing before spending any coin (on anything but beer)...

Every place is kinda different in atmosphere and how the girls work it, but for Pigs...I find that 2 hrs and you get to see almost 2/3 of them on the stage and I rank them in my head (She's #1 oh yeah, but she's got an interesting look about her too...hmm, ok she's #2) that sorta thing. Then I observe them:

- If they have to parade around asking for dances or not. (this also depends on if the place is busy or not...but gives you an idea if they're just tryin' to make their quota for the night)

- If they are ALWAYS in the CR and never on the floor. This can be a really good sign put together with the next point.

- If they are in the CR for awhile with clients. Stay the frig away from the ones that repeatedly disappear in the CR for 2 or 3 songs with everyone and then are suddenly back. I mean, it could be that dude could only afford that...but most cases it's just not workin' back there...

I personally tend to like the shy ones, the ones that don't typically walk up to you and "Do you wanna dance?". I don't mind the forward ones too, but only if they like to talk and chat and the "Do you wanna dance?" phrase isn't the FIRST (or second) thing outta their mouths.

Anyway, while that all won't guarantee finding "the good ones"...it certainly works for me...

HTH

 

[twizzler2]

I think "R" is on the right track

Sorry that title should have "Hwyman"

I have a similar approach although I don't spend that long watching.

I think the extremes are generally to be avoided, overly shy or overly agressive tend to be disappointments for me in private. Usually the shy ones remain that way in the back room and the agressive ones have adopted that approach because they have to work that hard to guys back there and don't provide the entertainment value that keeps guys back there for a reasonable number of songs.

Watching how long girls are back there with other guys is a good measuring stick, but often the girls head off to change room immediately after ( for a number of reasons, smoke, change, freshen up...etc ) Some of them do this intentionally to seem like they are in the back room longer.

If you can spot them, the girls that are back there for 5 songs or so and walk back out on the floor with their happy customers, making a point of saying one last friendly goodbye are usually a good bet.

I like the girls who are confident, friendly, and don't have a lot of venom for the other girls, the place, or the customers. Everyone has bad days, but if someone is having one and you don't already know them, chances are you aren't going to have a good experience in the back.

You want the girls who want to get a dance from you but give you the impression they NEED to get a dance from you.

Hopefully all of this helps,

Twiz

 

[CapitalGuy]

How do you ask a girl for takeout?

 

[broken-nin]

show her the $500 in your wallet

 

[the_hwyman]

I have a similar approach although I don't spend that long watching.

I usually go with a buddy and we have a few beers, shoot the shit, observe and such...so time flies by...

I think the extremes are generally to be avoided, overly shy or overly agressive tend to be disappointments for me in private.

For the most part yeah, I was being general in that the aggressive ones are being aggressive because they need to be. Not all the "shy ones" are actually "shy", if you talk to them...they just don't like getting in people's faces and posing the "Do you want a dance" line...at least some of the ones I know are like that, come off shy but in the CR are real "cuddlers" and give real good mileage...for me anyway...

and walk back out on the floor with their happy customers, making a point of saying one last friendly goodbye are usually a good bet.

Actually, that's a great point...forgot to mention that too. The really good ones will come walking out from the CR holding hands, arms around each other and a final kiss before going separate ways...some times they'll even join them at their tables for a bit afterwards too.

How do you ask a girl for takeout?

Takes awhile and must be done with tact. You have to reach a point, after a number of visits, where you're getting pretty good mileage in the CR and there is definitely a threshold (for me anyway) where when a girl does a certain one or two things (or lets me do them)...I know they're pretty much "good to go" and I'll risk asking...

In the last ~5 yrs, I've only reached that point and asked 4 girls and each was good to go but very pricey (>6 bills). But it figures, when they can make 3-4 bills per hour in the CR...why would they take less for FS outside the club? So I've never taken any of them up on it...

 

[Bobman]

My experience has been five browns and up, plus you have to spring for a room as well. Probably not worth taking the chance for that kind of coin when there is no way of checking previous reviews.

 

[party_guy49]

Take Out

If you stick to your guns you could get the price of Take-Out down. If often get Swiss Chalet to throw in free delivery, or Pizza Pizza to throw in a six pack of Pepsi.

Being serious I don't think you should be looking to spend anything more than 3 1/2 browns on your take out meal. The only time I have been quoted higher is when they ask for part of the money up front.

 

[twizzler2]

being a good customer helps a lot

Getting to know a lady and getting along with them really goes a long way tword getting a positive response. Being discreate is always appreciated as well. Try asking the question in such a way that she knows what you mean ( usually the general mood a body language help convey this) but if the question was overheard it could interpreted another way. Don't forget that public communication for the purposes of... can get you both in trouble so be covert in public. By all means make sure she understands what you want out of the encounter but do that as privately as possible. The back room is a good place for the initial (covert) question, but if she shows interest invite her to a private table for a drink and discuss it a little further.

My approach is that I don't negotiate the price, and I let her set it. If the price is too high, I simply decline politely and don't discuss it further. Some ladies see this as an opening to negotiate, and I tell them flat out that i'm not trying to beat them down in price, they have every right to ask for any price it's just too much for me.

Some ladies want some reassurance that they're going to be safe ( which is fair ) and on these occasions bringing along a friend (hers not yours ) usually works well.

There are a number of things that will reduce your chances to near zero in no time flat. Being aggresive, being drunk, being a jerk, even comming across as uncomfortable when asking are not likely to yield results.

For the most part these girls aren't pros at this and they are not trying to build a clientle (usually) their focus is not making sure you have the best experience it's getting you across the finish line. From my experience you are more likely to have a good experience with an SP than with a dancer. However I know only too well the tempation.


Twiz

 

[luvdancers]

True words

From my experience you are more likely to have a good experience with an SP than with a dancer. However I know only too well the tempation.

Oh, yeah, you hit the nail on the head here. Dancers and SPs are for the most part two separate breeds. The whole idea of CR dancing is a controlled flirt and tease, with the exception of those girls who push it a bit further (the new breed of uber-grinders, for example).

Whereas a good SP is setting you up for an experience that *should* leave you fulfilled. Dancers don't want you fulfilled, they want you back next week with another five greens in hand, LoL. Frankly many if not most have a low opinion of most of the customers, truth be told. SPs are a bit less negative, though in either case being a bit patient and building a relationship goes a long way.

As a general rule, I would stay away from dancers for extracurricular .

 

[Vanilla_Sky]

As a general rule, I would stay away from dancers for extracurricular .

That's the best advice. Remember the words of Chris Rock, "there is no sex in the champagne room." If you MUST have a girl that is both a stripper go to HillTop, Frontiere or one of those other clubs... odds of getting laid go from fairly low to almost as certain as whether a bear will take a shit in the woods.