My passport is due to expire soon. Calling the passport office only gets a busy signal. Is it true that a passport is still valid up to one year after its expiry date? Also, is the simplified passport renewal process really simple? Take 2 pics, fill out the form and pay $87. Why do they ask you to hand in your expired passport (after all, it has expired)?
Passport Questions
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Cycleguy007
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Nope- if its expired... its basically useless.SkyRider said:
As far as I know you have to go through the process same as before, and yes you have to hand back your old passport as well...
Mine is due to expire in November so I will be getting mine done soon as well.
No it is not valid. Some States won't even let you enter if your passport with within six months of expiring.SkyRider said:
To prove that you have previously had a passport and they don't have to again go through the process of making sure you are a national.
Where do you people come up with this stuff?SkyRider said:
Yes. Actually the new guarantor rules are such a joke - basically any other Canadian citizen you know can be a guarantor.
Pics have to meet specific requirements - some of the toughest specs in the world for a pic. Ironic considering the a guarantor requirements.
Don't know, don't care, just do it.
Passport issues
I'm a US citizen. I have had 3 passports. Never heard of the "one year after" rule. I know friends have scrambled to get there's renewed before the expiry date. Are you a US or Canadian citizen? In NY I went to the county offices a few years ago, paid the about $80 and had a new one in a couple weeks. I believe the Post Office can do them now. I have always gotten my old one back even though I send it in with the application. I think there is that option on the renewal form. I once ran out of pages for customs so I sent my passport in and they attached a folding page to my passport for the entry and exit stamps.
I just looked at my other two expired passports. Doesn't look like they did anything to them, like mark VOID or punch a hole in them. Look like they did before, but with an expired date?
I also have a NEXUS pass that customs says is as good as (probably better) for travel between the US and Canada. That took 6-8 weeks because of the background checks.
SkyRider said:
I'm a US citizen. I have had 3 passports. Never heard of the "one year after" rule. I know friends have scrambled to get there's renewed before the expiry date. Are you a US or Canadian citizen? In NY I went to the county offices a few years ago, paid the about $80 and had a new one in a couple weeks. I believe the Post Office can do them now. I have always gotten my old one back even though I send it in with the application. I think there is that option on the renewal form. I once ran out of pages for customs so I sent my passport in and they attached a folding page to my passport for the entry and exit stamps.
I just looked at my other two expired passports. Doesn't look like they did anything to them, like mark VOID or punch a hole in them. Look like they did before, but with an expired date?
I also have a NEXUS pass that customs says is as good as (probably better) for travel between the US and Canada. That took 6-8 weeks because of the background checks.
Cycleguy007
Banned
JEFF247 said:
I read that part of the "simplified" renewal form again. It appears that a person has up a year after the expiration date to use the "simplified" process. I guess after a year, it would be the "non-simplified" process. (SkyRider is a proud Canadian citizen and passport holder.)
SkyRider said:
Yes. The Passport is not valid after expiration, but within 12 months you can use the simplified process to renew, and as has already been pointed out many countries will require you to have a passport that is still valid for at least 6 months before allowing you to enter.
You're best off taking your completed form and documents into a passport office as it will be processed quite a bit faster.
Thus far (until the Trolls arrive) SkyRider you have been getting just as acurate (probably more so) information as you would have gotten from the passport office!SkyRider said:
Most countries will not allow you to enter if your passport expires before the limit of your visitor visa. So if a country automatically grants you 90 days (Hong Kong, example) you need to have at least 91 days left to be able to enter the country.
Some places won't allow you enter with less than 6 months, even if your visa is for only 1 week.
The renewal process now is much simpler than before, so there is no reason to leave your passport to expire.
As for your old passport, they will return it (with a corner snipped off) so you can keep all your travel stamps. If your passport looks like mine, then your probably want to keep it just to remember all the cool places you go.
Some places won't allow you enter with less than 6 months, even if your visa is for only 1 week.
The renewal process now is much simpler than before, so there is no reason to leave your passport to expire.
As for your old passport, they will return it (with a corner snipped off) so you can keep all your travel stamps. If your passport looks like mine, then your probably want to keep it just to remember all the cool places you go.
rama putri said:
Some people really don't know what they are talking about ...
The simplified process only works when renewing a passport that is still valid or has been expired less than a year. Since you had to get a guarantor when you applied for the previous passport they do not require you to do so again. You must present your passport and provide 2 references which may be anyone that will vouch for you. The references are not guarantors. They run your passport through the computer to ensure you have no outstanding issues and cut the corner off the cover.
You can download the simplified application from the website - search Passport Canada.
Pictures must be approved spec for passport photos which you can get virtually anywhere including Walmart and Costco. You are not allowed to smile any more.
Also if you have unexpired visas in your old passport. Most countries will let you in if you bring your current (valid) passport together with the expired passport that contains the still valid visa.BoringBob said:Most countries will not allow you to enter if your passport expires before the limit of your visitor visa. So if a country automatically grants you 90 days (Hong Kong, example) you need to have at least 91 days left to be able to enter the country.
Some places won't allow you enter with less than 6 months, even if your visa is for only 1 week.
The renewal process now is much simpler than before, so there is no reason to leave your passport to expire.
As for your old passport, they will return it (with a corner snipped off) so you can keep all your travel stamps. If your passport looks like mine, then your probably want to keep it just to remember all the cool places you go.
Anyone going to the US OR even FLYING through US air space better get one NOW!!!!!! June 1 2009 is the deadline. I believe a "enhanced" Drivers License is valid as well.
dragnbiz said:
Before you jump down his throat, he was actually referring to the changes in guarantor requirements for the regular application process since, as you point out, the simplified process doesn't require guarantors.
Guarantors used to have to come a particular groups of professions, most of which came with licencing requirements and/or strong community ties. Now, pretty much any person over the age of 18 who holds a valid 5-year passport can serve as guarantor if they have known you for more than 2 years..
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