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.Liberal Leader Michael Ignatieff says he's started an investigation into reported comments by his candidate in a northern Quebec riding.

A news release by the NDP accuses Liberal candidate André Forbes of making disparaging remarks about First Nations and Innu people. The release says he's a former leader of l’Association des Droits des Blancs, the Association for the Rights of Whites, in Sept-Iles, Que.Forbes reportedly referred to Aboriginals as "featherheads" in an interview with L'actualité published in October, 2004:

'“Do you know how much a featherhead costs?” That’s the brutal question I was asked by André Forbes, president of the Association for the Rights of Whites of Sept-Îles, in September of 2002, at the height of the controversy surrounding the agreement in principle with the Innu community. Forbes was referring to how much it costs for the State to fulfill its responsibilities towards aboriginals. Of course, he had the answer. “For you, it’s 25 grand; for a prisoner, 50 grand; for an Indian; 100 grand,"' the magazine reported.
Bet you all thought it was going to be an Alberta Conservative candidate :rolleyes:

There is no racist quite like a Liberal Quebecer.
 

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Bet you all thought it was going to be an Alberta Conservative candidate :rolleyes:

There is no racist quite like a Liberal Quebecer.
I know you're trying to be cute and funny but fail because of your blindness. How about a Parti Quebecois leader? D'oh!

At least Iggie & company cut out the problem quickly instead of trying to defend, bury, or deflect the problem. Harper looked and sounded like a rookie idiot trying to not answer the questions about the rally ejection of the student who was doing nothing but trying to get her picture taken with the party leaders. She also had a snap taken with Layton. Harper said he can't answer a question about one particular event.
 

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I know you're trying to be cute and funny but fail because of your blindness. How about a Parti Quebecois leader? D'oh!

At least Iggie & company cut out the problem quickly instead of trying to defend, bury, or deflect the problem. Harper looked and sounded like a rookie idiot trying to not answer the questions about the rally ejection of the student who was doing nothing but trying to get her picture taken with the party leaders. She also had a snap taken with Layton. Harper said he can't answer a question about one particular event.
Yes to his credit Iggy cut the guy quickly.

I agree with Harpers comment as well as that was a little bit less important than the Quebec Liberal riding putting forward a racist candidate in the first place don't you think? No i guess you don't.
 

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Yes to his credit Iggy cut the guy quickly.

I agree with Harpers comment as well as that was a little bit less important than the Quebec Liberal riding putting forward a racist candidate in the first place don't you think? No i guess you don't.
Harper tried to make it 'no big deal' to have a persons personal history searched by the RCMP AFTER she'd been given permission to attend. Was she a security threat? Which is the stated mandate of the RCMP today and they've stated they won't do it any more, hmmm. Not at all, she was found undesirable because she attended other leaders' rallies. Someone ACTUALLY trying to make an in formed decision. She was also a member of a certain part of society that Harper is trying to woo. Oooops!
 

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I agree with Harpers comment as well as that was a little bit less important than the Quebec Liberal riding putting forward a racist candidate in the first place don't you think? No i guess you don't.
Is there any reason to believe that the Liberal party knew of his racist background prior to the NDP outing him? If they knew nothing about it, and acted as soon as they learned about it, what's the issue? I suppose you could STILL have an issue--but only if you don't have reasons for the things you think.
 

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It is a well known fact that those french in northern quebec hate the natives as much as the natives hate the french. A white power type as a candidate though seems more fitting for the reform party. If the Conservatives have time to google every person attending a rally and ban people they don't like, you'd think the liberals might have find the time to check out their candidates.
 

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Is there any reason to believe that the Liberal party knew of his racist background prior to the NDP outing him? If they knew nothing about it, and acted as soon as they learned about it, what's the issue? I suppose you could STILL have an issue--but only if you don't have reasons for the things you think.
The guy has been the nominated candidate for 2 years, simply googling his name would have brought this to the surface
 

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Maybe the Liberals thought that the Association des Droits des Blancs was an organization dedicated to non red wines ? :)
 

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The guy has been the nominated candidate for 2 years, simply googling his name would have brought this to the surface
Would it? I gave it a try myself and all that came up in Google were the recent news articles. Even when I combined his name with "Association des Droits des Blancs" I found only one link in Google prior to the current news. Reading it in light of the recent stories it looked bad, but there wasn't anything overtly racist in the one reference that came up--and you would have to know already that he was associated with that group to find that result in Google in the first place.

It turns out there are a lot of other Andre Forbes and their results dominate the google search.
 

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It is a well known fact that those french in northern quebec hate the natives as much as the natives hate the french. A white power type as a candidate though seems more fitting for the reform party. If the Conservatives have time to google every person attending a rally and ban people they don't like, you'd think the liberals might have find the time to check out their candidates.
How much time have you spent in Northern Quebec? I suspect very little. It's well known by whom? Someone else claimed they had their finger in the pulse of Quebec in an earlier thread. The distrust exhibited by some of Quebec's James Bay Cree and Innu (Montagnais, and Naskapi) are not aimed at the French. It's aimed at the dumb, ignorant, belligerent, selfish, short-sighted WHITEMAN, who have spent the better part of the last 100 years screwing them silly. Do you not think they have a reason to be distrustful. If you're going to show your redneck side at least be right about your prodigious views.
 

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Spent 3 weeks in far northern quebec. 1 week in a French town and 2 in native towns. Even Francophone officials made all sorts of racist claims about 'Those Indians' (I won't post the other expressions they used). From the native perspective, one town I was in had gone through major changes not too long before because of Quebec government actions and they were extremely unhappy about it and the actions of the French people in the newly built French community nearby. Maybe their anger was well justified and maybe this area is/was an exception but on both sides, the only times I heard the other group mentioned were in derogatory terms. As a white guy in the native towns, I was treated fairly well from the time they saw my Ontario plates. Maybe they distrust whites in general but the Cree I spent time with hated the French.
 

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Spent 3 weeks in far northern quebec. 1 week in a French town and 2 in native towns. Even Francophone officials made all sorts of racist claims about 'Those Indians' (I won't post the other expressions they used). From the native perspective, one town I was in had gone through major changes not too long before because of Quebec government actions and they were extremely unhappy about it and the actions of the French people in the newly built French community nearby. Maybe their anger was well justified and maybe this area is/was an exception but on both sides, the only times I heard the other group mentioned were in derogatory terms. As a white guy in the native towns, I was treated fairly well from the time they saw my Ontario plates. Maybe they distrust whites in general but the Cree I spent time with hated the French.
You've spent more time than most, but only scratched the surface. Over the last 15/20 years I've probably averaged about 4-6 weeks a year between of 50th and 80th parallels in Canada and as much as 12 weeks. The number of communities probably total in the 30s from coast to coast to coast. As I indicated, the hard on that the native communities exhibit is against the white man. The fact that most of the white guys in Quebec are French, kind of explain their comments. I can say that I'm made to feel at home in approximately half a dozen communities as I have spent enough time there and passed 'the test', but I'm under no illusions. I will always be an outsider by most residents. There is as much prejudice between the various Native Bands as there is against whitie. The idea of the Pan Native Brotherhood is a laugh.
 
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