Parking ticket question

[squash500]

I would really appreciate some help? In the last couple of months I've filed about 5 city of Toronto parking tickets on behalf of some friends and each of the tickets were for $30. I acted as the agent on each of the 5 tickets. I've set each ticket down for trial.

The city of toronto said my friends would be receiving their trial dates in the mail in about 6 months. I filled out a notice of intention to appear for each of the 5 tickets.

Here's my question. Is there a statute of limitation as to how long the city of toronto has to come up with a trial date? I also requested on the NOITA that I want to challenge the evidence of the provincial offences officers who issued the individual tickets. Does that mean that the parking officer has to show up for court as well?

I personally don't drive so I was just helping out a couple of friends as a favor. They were all set to pay the $30 but I convinced them not to.

I wonder if the city of toronto will even bother with these $30 tickets?

Any answers would be much appreciated. I think there was a thread on terb a little while ago about this very topic but I couldn't find it ?

 

[Yoga Face]

I never pay a parking ticket.


The courts are so plugged they do not issue court dates.
The exception might be a $100 ticket


I always go to the court on John Street as I suspect they are the busiest and less likely to issue a court date and are close

 

[squash500]

I never pay a parking ticket.


The courts are so plugged they do not issue court dates.
The exception might be a $100 ticket


I always go to the court on John Street as I suspect they are the busiest and less likely to issue a court date and are close

Yesterday I had to go to the York center on 2700 eglinton ave w to file one of these parking tickets as 55 John st was closed because of the cupe strike.

Drivers trying to get into 2700 eglinton ave w were getting really pissed off as the cupe picketers were only letting one car through every 15-20 minutes. there was a big lineup of cars blocking the whole right lane of eglinton ave w.

Of course the police didn't do a thing. The drivers tempers were getting frayed to say the least as some of them I'm sure were late for their traffic court sessions as a result. Luckily for me I just took the bus so I wasn't inconvienced
very much.

Thanks for the reference to the site JFK. However I can't get a link to it to work. As you said it's probably quite busy.

 

[fashionboy]

Yes there is a limitation, it is 1 year. I had a ticket for failing to stop at a red light. Got it thrown out because my trial date was set after the 1 year mark.

 

[Doctor Zoidburg]

Canadian Charter of Rights.

Under the Canadian Charter of rights you have the right to a fair and speedy trial. A murder case was dismissed because the case went to trial 14 months after the accused was charged. The defense claimed that since a speedy trial was not granted to his client, many of the witnesses did not have a clear recolection of events.
I went to trial for a parking ticket 17 months after the issuance of the ticket. I asked the judge to throw out the case, but she refused. She said : This is not a murder trial, and found me guilty. Later when I went to check the court records it indicated that I was found innocent. She had later changed her verdict. A lawyer later told me that the judge had made an error in judgement because of the precident of the murder trial being dismissed after 14 months and I was called to court after 17 months. The judges error was equivelant to a doctor leaving an instrument in a pacient during surgery.


To win a court case, fight, fight, fight, talk talk talk. Never give up. Never trust the proceution when they act friendly, they are sharks.

 

[squash500]

I just googled this article from the toronto star about these $30 parking tickets.

http://www.thestar.com/News/GTA/article/447162

 

[squash500]

That broken link page is the first time I've seen that so maybe it's finito, but there is a link to a cached version of the site on that same page (the site hasn't changed much over the last few years so a cached copy is all you need).

You can get the info there as well.

Thanks .

 

[Yoga Face]

You must fight each and everyone of them to get away with it, no?

Well, I do not get a lot of tickets but over the years I have paid some because I was too busy to do otherwise. So when I say I never pay a ticket that was not true.

I never pay when I have the time not to.

I mean how much trouble is $30 worth?

They make it $30 because they know that I suspect.

 

[scrooge]

Agreed. Judges and prosecutors fuck up too! (Ha ha, the Canadian Constitution protects all, not just murderers, in this regard).

I've had various tickets thrown out for less than 14 months (10 months but you might get lucky with even 8, although that seems more and more unlikely if the 'intake' period to process the ticket in downtown Toronto is accepted as longer than other jurisdictions, but 8 used to be a minimum # of months for the delay to get off).

You are actually fairly familiar with these rules... the 8-10 months timeframe is commonly known as the "Askov" and "Morin" guideline. What the courts have said is that the general guideline is 8-10 months but there must be some flexibility with respect to the complexity of the case, whether the accused has been prejudiced, etc.. One would have to argue that he would have been ready for trial on the day of a simple offence such as a parking ticket but has been prejudiced because of the delay.

 

[K Douglas]

Yesterday I had to go to the York center on 2700 eglinton ave w to file one of these parking tickets as 55 John st was closed because of the cupe strike.

Drivers trying to get into 2700 eglinton ave w were getting really pissed off as the cupe picketers were only letting one car through every 15-20 minutes. there was a big lineup of cars blocking the whole right lane of eglinton ave w.

Of course the police didn't do a thing. The drivers tempers were getting frayed to say the least as some of them I'm sure were late for their traffic court sessions as a result. Luckily for me I just took the bus so I wasn't inconvienced
very much.

Thanks for the reference to the site JFK. However I can't get a link to it to work. As you said it's probably quite busy.

I suggest if anyone has to go to this court don't try to park there, you can't get in. The CUPE parasites have blocked the entrance. Park your car on a side street or take public transit.

 

[squash500]

I suggest if anyone has to go to this court don't try to park there, you can't get in. The CUPE parasites have blocked the entrance. Park your car on a side street or take public transit.

I agree with you. Thank goodness I took public transit.

 

[Worf]

My general principle of nuisance tickets is - if you are going to waste my time, then I am going to waste yours. So, take them all to court.

 

[squash500]

My general principle of nuisance tickets is - if you are going to waste my time, then I am going to waste yours. So, take them all to court.

I agree with you. Once you get to court everything is plea bargained anyway. That is if the police officer or the provincial parking officer even bothers to show up.

I've never paid a parking ticket or speeding ticket in my life when I used to drive.

 

[Lochlan651]

I just follow the signs regarding parking.

Never had a ticket, so no problems with paying them.

 

[Anynym]

...
I went to trial for a parking ticket 17 months after the issuance of the ticket. I asked the judge to throw out the case, but she refused. ...

How did you end up with a Judge for a traffic infraction? Most are heard by a Justice of the Peace, who have little training in the Law.