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basketcase

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Seems that unlike grog, the Palestinians don't even want to meet with Israelis who are radically anti-Israel.


Expulsion of Israeli-Jewish journalist sparks W. Bank academic debate
Dispute over freedom and radicalization has erupted since Haaretz reporter Amira Hass was ordered to leave conference at Ramallah’s Bir Zeit University last month

RAMALLAH, West Bank (AP) — The expulsion of an Israeli journalist from an academic conference hosted by a top Palestinian university has unleashed a fierce debate about academic freedom in the West Bank.

It is also shining a spotlight on the apparent radicalization of some young Palestinians who are disillusioned by years of failed peace efforts and have grown up with little contact with Israelis.

While Bir Zeit University has apologized to journalist Amira Hass, some student activists say they support her expulsion and want the school to rescind its apology. In Israel, officials say such attitudes violate the spirit of academic freedom.

Hass, who writes for the liberal Israeli daily Haaretz, is a popular figure in Ramallah, one of a few dovish Israeli Jews who live in the Palestinian city. In Israel, she is well known — and reviled by some— for her scathing criticism of Israeli policies toward the Palestinians.

But when she attended a conference at Bir Zeit on Sept. 23, she ran into trouble when she listed Haaretz as her professional affiliation.

She said two professors asked her to leave. “They said, ‘There is a law in the university that Israelis cannot enter the university,'” she said. One even told her that she should leave for her own safety. Hass, who said she has been to the university dozens of times previously, decided to leave.

http://www.timesofisrael.com/expulsion-of-israeli-jewish-journalist-sparks-w-bank-academic-debate/

So in some wacky world, it's okay for Palestinian leaders of the BDS movement to study at Israeli universities but the Palestinians don't want to hear from Israelis even if they are strong supporters and went so far as to threaten her.
 

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What else would you expect?...
So you have no problem with them ejecting her simply because she is Israeli (and even though she is a strong promoter of the Palestinian cause)?

Your refusal to evenly remotely criticize ridiculous Palestinian actions is class one iditoic as is your attempt to blame it on Israel.
 

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Groggy's racism on blatant display here.
You're making things up again.
I don't support either of the reported actions, all I did was say its a predictable outcome in a country that's fostering hate, racism and warmongering.
De-escalation and full human rights for all under Israeli rule is the only way towards peace.
 

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Seems that unlike grog, the Palestinians don't even want to meet with Israelis who are radically anti-Israel.


Expulsion of Israeli-Jewish journalist sparks W. Bank academic debate
Dispute over freedom and radicalization has erupted since Haaretz reporter Amira Hass was ordered to leave conference at Ramallah’s Bir Zeit University last month

RAMALLAH, West Bank (AP) — The expulsion of an Israeli journalist from an academic conference hosted by a top Palestinian university has unleashed a fierce debate about academic freedom in the West Bank.

It is also shining a spotlight on the apparent radicalization of some young Palestinians who are disillusioned by years of failed peace efforts and have grown up with little contact with Israelis.

While Bir Zeit University has apologized to journalist Amira Hass, some student activists say they support her expulsion and want the school to rescind its apology. In Israel, officials say such attitudes violate the spirit of academic freedom.

Hass, who writes for the liberal Israeli daily Haaretz, is a popular figure in Ramallah, one of a few dovish Israeli Jews who live in the Palestinian city. In Israel, she is well known — and reviled by some— for her scathing criticism of Israeli policies toward the Palestinians.

But when she attended a conference at Bir Zeit on Sept. 23, she ran into trouble when she listed Haaretz as her professional affiliation.

She said two professors asked her to leave. “They said, ‘There is a law in the university that Israelis cannot enter the university,'” she said. One even told her that she should leave for her own safety. Hass, who said she has been to the university dozens of times previously, decided to leave.

http://www.timesofisrael.com/expulsion-of-israeli-jewish-journalist-sparks-w-bank-academic-debate/

So in some wacky world, it's okay for Palestinian leaders of the BDS movement to study at Israeli universities but the Palestinians don't want to hear from Israelis even if they are strong supporters and went so far as to threaten her.
You can't find more ungrateful people than these Palestinians, the women lived in Gaza, was one of the most pro Palestinian person journalist there is, to the point that she was hated by most Israelis and they kick her out because she's a Jew. Hatred of Jews is at the root of this conflict.
 

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You can't find more ungrateful people than these Palestinians, the women lived in Gaza, was one of the most pro Palestinian person journalist there is, to the point that she was hated by most Israelis and they kick her out because she's a Jew. Hatred of Jews is at the root of this conflict.
Do you say the same thing when Palestinians are allowed into the settlements?
 

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Do you say the same thing when Palestinians are allowed into the settlements?
You're just as antisemitic as those guys in the Palestinian university...
 

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Oddly, the PLO insists on keeping them in refugee camps in their own country.
More bullshit.
Tell us how the PLO tells Palestinians to not go to settlements, or are you trying to argue that the PA doing the security work of the IDF is doing the ethnic cleansing for Israel?


But back on topic.

All this is a direct result of an ongoing policy of anti-semitism aimed at Palestian's and Muslims indirectly.
Just as Homeland is a racist show aimed at demonizing Muslims, co-created by an IDF paratrooper, aimed at demonizing Muslim.
http://www.thestar.com/entertainmen..._homeland_is_the_most_bigoted_show_on_tv.html

Foster hatred and this is what you get.

Instead of turning the US into Israel.
http://www.theamericanconservative.com/articles/how-we-became-israel/
 

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More bullshit.
Tell us how the PLO tells Palestinians to not go to settlements, or are you trying to argue that the PA doing the security work of the IDF is doing the ethnic cleansing for Israel?
The PLO prevents Palestinians living in refugee camps in Gaza and the West Bank from settling in homes in Gaza and the West Bank.

Is Palestine their country or not?
 

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But back on topic.

All this is a direct result of...
More of grog's bullshit and racism in two ways.
1) He blames everything on Israel.
2) He refuses to believe Palestinians have the ability to make moral choices.

Hass is so pointedly pro-Palestinian yet the Palestinians don't want anything to do with her. Speaks volumes.



p.s. That 'fostering of hatred' goes back decades. Earliest modern example I can find was in 1920 when Arab leaders incited a crowd of worshipers to attack the ancient Jewish community in Jerusalem. Just like today, it doesn't matter what the people were doing or what their views, the fact that they were Jews made them targets.
 

groggy

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The PLO prevents Palestinians living in refugee camps in Gaza and the West Bank from settling in homes in Gaza and the West Bank.

Is Palestine their country or not?
You are right, you should help work with the PLO to invade the settlements and reclaim their land.
Is Palestine their country or not?

I suggest you also work with the UN to help Abbas' UN SC call for Israel to end the occupation so that you can help end this evil problem.
 

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Sorry but you sooner get to run away from the point: Why shouldn't a Palestinian be able to live anywhere in Palestinian controlled territory? Why does the PLO prevent them from leaving the camps?
 

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You can't find more ungrateful people than these Palestinians, the women lived in Gaza, was one of the most pro Palestinian person journalist there is, to the point that she was hated by most Israelis and they kick her out because she's a Jew. Hatred of Jews is at the root of this conflict.
Given your admission that she's hated by most Isrselis because of her sympathetic view of Palestinians, you might want to face up to the reality that it is the hatred of Palestinians that is at the root of this conflict.
 

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Sorry but you sooner get to run away from the point: Why shouldn't a Palestinian be able to live anywhere in Palestinian controlled territory? Why does the PLO prevent them from leaving the camps?
You mean why doesn't Israel allow them to return to the homes and property they own in Israel?
 

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Given your admission that she's hated by most Israelis because of her sympathetic view of Palestinians, you might want to face up to the reality that it is the hatred of Palestinians that is at the root of this conflict.
Nice try Pig Vomit, Amira Hass is a radical left journalist that lies, hates Jews and betrays Israel. Other Israeli journalists have sympathy for Palestinians, but nobody likes a chronic liar that twists information on newspapers in a malicious manner like this bitch. She was charged with libel after making up stories against Israel and Israelis that were refuted after video evidence emerged.
Nobody likes a liar.

That's why nobody likes you here... you make up bullshit.
 

groggy

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Sorry but you sooner get to run away from the point: Why shouldn't a Palestinian be able to live anywhere in Palestinian controlled territory? Why does the PLO prevent them from leaving the camps?
The PLO doesn't run the roadblocks and checkpoints.
That's the IDF.

Israel controls who lives where and what security/services they get, at best you can argue that the PLO administers Israeli plans.

So you need to blame Israel for illegally settling foreigners in what you call Palestine, and you need to work to get them out of that foreign country, for the sake of peace.
 
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