Omar Khadr's conviction a insult to Canada

[fuji]

Omar Khadr was convicted in a process that would have been flat out criminal had it been applied to an American citizen. The Americans would not have subjected one of their own to such a horrendous miscarriage of justice: detained without charge, detained with no access to legal counsel, and ultimately processed under a legal regime that did not offer even the most basic rights to a fair trial.

Americans treat their rapists and serial killers better than they treated Khadr.

Why? Had he been American rather than Canadian such treatment would but even have been contemplated.

It's an insult to Canada and to Canadians that he was not provided the same rights and protections that they would have given one of their own.

 

[The Options Menu]

It's an insult to Canada and to Canadians that he was not provided the same rights and protections that they would have given one of their own.

Given that Obama is prone to extra-judicial hits on American citizens via drone the fact that he got a process is 'less bad' than it could have been. Then there's the simple truth the the Canadian government, and most Canadians don't want him back. I think the guy is fairly reprehensible, but he is a Canadian citizen, and was a child soldier. That has to mean something, and the same something for everybody. Even if you have a nasty family and were up to 'really bad things'. At the end of the day he should have faced whatever indigenous judicial processes there are here in Canada, and served out his time at that 6 cell facility our government built in the middle of nowhere (I forget the name) for this very reason.

 

[Moviefan-2]

When he gets back to Canada, can we still charge him with high treason?

 

[fuji]

When he gets back to Canada, can we still charge him with high treason?

At least in a Canadian court he would get a fair trial.

 

[Rockslinger]

For a moment there, I thought our friend Fuji said Omar is an insult to Canada.

 

[Aardvark154]

For a moment there, I thought our friend Fuji said Omar is an insult to Canada.

Well most of us would agree with that sentiment.

 

[fuji]

Well most of us would agree with that sentiment.

Whether he's guilty or not, it is insulting that he was put through a process that your country doesn't consider good enough for its own citizens.

 

[Rockslinger]

Whether he's guilty or not, it is insulting that he was put through a process that your country doesn't consider good enough for its own citizens.

But, he is NOT a U.S. citizen. Unlike Canada where our loony liberals believe the Charter applies to everybody in the universe, I think Americans believe that their Constitution applies only Americans.

 

[msog87]

When he gets back to Canada, can we still charge him with high treason?

he actually plans on suing the federal govt and its expected they will pay him millions to go away. I really hope he had to eat cockmeat sandwiches...

 

[fuji]

But, he is NOT a U.S. citizen. Unlike Canada where our loony liberals believe the Charter applies to everybody in the universe, I think Americans believe that their Constitution applies only Americans.

So, you are OK with the idea that only Americans deserve fair trials, that Canadians aren't worthy of them. It's just fine by you that if an American were to go and participate in the same activities in Afghanistan that they would have access to a stronger and fairer legal system than what is provided to Canadians.

 

[rld]

he actually plans on suing the federal govt and its expected they will pay him millions to go away. I really hope he had to eat cockmeat sandwiches...

He is suing the federal government, but there is no consensus that they will pay him big bucks to go away. Quite the contrary in fact.

 

[rld]

So, you are OK with the idea that only Americans deserve fair trials, that Canadians aren't worthy of them. It's just fine by you that if an American were to go and participate in the same activities in Afghanistan that they would have access to a stronger and fairer legal system than what is provided to Canadians.

Are you suggesting that this poor system was targeted specifically at Canadians? That no one from other nations was subjected to it?

 

[rld]

Omar Khadr was convicted in a process that would have been flat out criminal had it been applied to an American citizen. The Americans would not have subjected one of their own to such a horrendous miscarriage of justice: detained without charge, detained with no access to legal counsel, and ultimately processed under a legal regime that did not offer even the most basic rights to a fair trial.

Americans treat their rapists and serial killers better than they treated Khadr.

Why? Had he been American rather than Canadian such treatment would but even have been contemplated.

It's an insult to Canada and to Canadians that he was not provided the same rights and protections that they would have given one of their own.

The voluntary plea is old news Fuji. But I guess you like banging your drum on this one.

 

[danmand]

He is suing the federal government, but there is no consensus that they will pay him big bucks to go away. Quite the contrary in fact.

Your predictions are worth nothing. Wait and see.

 

[Possum Trot]

Another fuji Khadr thread ? Lovely- 2010 redux. Can we not start a sandbox for just fuji and Anbarandy to play in. See who can start the most threads on the same topic. Give the winner a tootsie pop or something ?

 

[rld]

Your predictions are worth nothing. Wait and see.

I am happy to wait and see, but Justice Fuji keeps babbling.

But allow me to ask again, have you read either the treaty or the act that governs these transfers, or have you every litigated a case for damages against the feds?

 

[danmand]

I am happy to wait and see, but Justice Fuji keeps babbling.

It would appear that you have posted as much as Fuji.

 

[rld]

It would appear that you have posted as much as Fuji.

And you have joined us and added what to the analysis?

At least I have read the treaty, the statute, and the case law. You and others choose to keep talking from a place of near complete ignorance.

 

[danmand]

And you have joined us and added what to the analysis?

At least I have read the treaty, the statute, and the case law. You and others choose to keep talking from a place of near complete ignorance.

Don't even try: " only lawyers know what is right or wrong" on me. I am perfectly able to make up my mind about what is a genuine judicial process and what is a cangoroo court or if you will show trial.

 

[guelph]

Don't even try: " only lawyers know what is right or wrong" on me. I am perfectly able to make up my mind about what is a genuine judicial process and what is a cangoroo court or if you will show trial.

Since when do the lawyers and legal system deal with right and wrong?

They are only concerned with the law