Obama to set executive pay limits

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This is one of the problems having a POTUS that's never had a real job.....

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Obama to set executive pay limits

By Jeff Mason – 1 hr 25 mins ago
Featured Topics: Barack Obama Presidential Transition

WASHINGTON (Reuters) – President Barack Obama kicks off a campaign on Wednesday to rein in corporate compensation with rules limiting executive pay to $500,000 a year for companies getting taxpayer bailout funds in the future.

Obama, who sharply criticized Wall Street chiefs for accepting billions of dollars in bonuses last year while the economy staggered toward collapse, had promised compensation reform as part of a package of stricter regulations on the financial industry.

The restrictions are a first step in a broad effort to overhaul pay practices and are likely to be popular with average Americans, potentially diverting attention from Tuesday's shock withdrawal of former Senator Tom Daschle's nomination to lead Obama's bid to expand healthcare insurance.

Obama and senior congressional Democrats are also seeking to push through an economic stimulus package of almost $900 billion despite Republican criticism that it focuses too much on government spending and not enough on tax cuts.

An Obama administration official said the new rules would require companies that get exceptional government funds in future to abide by the cap.

Additional compensation must be limited to restricted stock that does not vest until government money is paid back with interest, according to the new rules.

Companies that have previously received bailout money -- such as financial giant Citigroup and insurer AIG -- would have to agree to stricter oversight and prove they have followed already established limits on executive compensation, which are widely seen as being too lax.

The White House aims to hold banking executives accountable for the government money they receive, presenting the new rules as being in the interest of shareholders and taxpayers alike.

"It's not a government takeover," Obama said when describing the restrictions in an interview with CNN on Tuesday.

"Private enterprise will still be taking place, but people will be accountable and responsible and that's what we have to restore in the financial system in general."

Obama's move comes amid public outcry over $18.4 billion in bonuses paid out in 2008 at a time when taxpayer money was shoring up the financial system.

Obama and Treasury Secretary Timothy Geithner were scheduled to discuss details during an announcement at the White House at 11:00 a.m. EST.

LONG-TERM RESTRICTIONS ON BANKS

The rules will require banks to give shareholders greater say over the money paid to company chiefs, according to information provided by the administration official.

They will also put restrictions on golden parachutes -- the lavish severance packages common for senior executives -- and require more transparency for costs such as aviation services, big parties, office renovations and conferences.

Healthier financial institutions that receive more generally available government funds will also be subject to the requirements unless shareholders vote to waive them.

Obama, who views excessive compensation as symptomatic of the missteps that led to the financial and economic crises, will also set in motion a long-term process to rein in high salaries on Wall Street.

This includes steps to require all public financial institutions -- whether they receive government funds or not -- to disclose compensation arrangements and prove that they are compatible with sound risk management.

Measures to make corporate executives adopt a long-term approach to their business, such as requiring them to hold stock for several years before it can be cashed in, would also be considered.


To consolidate opinion, Treasury Secretary Geithner will hold a conference with shareholder advocates, investors, executives and other interested parties to discuss executive pay reform at banks and help set guidelines for the future, the official said.

Geithner said in an interview with the Wall Street Journal on Tuesday that U.S. fiscal policy was about to turn "very aggressive" to battle the recession.
 
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The title of this thread is misleading.

Obama is not simply "setting executive pay limits". He is making sure corporatations that get government handouts are not using the money to pad the wallets of their executives.

Considering what some bank executives did with the first bailout money, this seems smart to me.

Don't you want your President to protect your tax dollars?
 

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onthebottom said:
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This is one of the problems having a POTUS that's never had a real job.....

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have there been any of those? I take real job to mean working or running a private business. I cant think of a US president that had a real job.
 

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lookingforitallthetime said:
The title of this thread is misleading.

Obama is not simply "setting executive pay limits". He is making sure corporatations that get government handouts are not using the money to pad the wallets of their executives.

Considering what some bank executives did with the first bailout money, this seems smart to me.

Don't you want your President to protect your tax dollars?
You'll have to speak to Reuters about the title of the thread, it's their title, not mine.

Yes I do want the government to watch over my tax dollars, but I don't want them to run businesses they know nothing about and make random decisions to stoke the class envy.....

The ML bonuses were obnoxious, there are many on Wall Street that are out of control, that's not my issue, it's this blunt force tool that will end up having unintended consequences.

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red said:
have there been any of those? I take real job to mean working or running a private business. I cant think of a US president that had a real job.
Carter was a Navy officer and a peanut farmer

Ford turned down the NFL to go to Yale, was a Naval officer in WWII and was a congressman for 24 years

Nixon was a Naval officer in WWII, then served in Congress and the Senate

Clinton was Governor of AR

Bush W worked in the oil business, owned a baseball team and was Governor if TX

Bush HW worked at BBH, owned an oil company, was a member of Congress, director of CIA

Reagan - Actor, President of SAG, GE, Governor of CA,

You have a point....

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onthebottom said:
This is one of the problems having a POTUS that's never had a real job.....
NOW THAT IS FUNNY!!!
So, that's why Dubya gave you such a stiffie the last 8 yrs, eh!
Dubya's great pre-POTUS 'resume'!....:D
 

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With that ridiculous bonus grab, the Wall St banks asked for this regulation. Note it is only for companies that recieve bailout money. If the company is well run and doesn't require bailout money, the CEO's have no pay restrictions. That is as it should be.
 
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onthebottom said:
Yes I do want the government to watch over my tax dollars, but I don't want them to run businesses they know nothing about and make random decisions to stoke the class envy.....

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One could argue if these corporations require government handouts to survive they don't know anything about how to run their businesses either.
 
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onthebottom said:
Bush W worked in the oil business, owned a baseball team and was Governor if TX

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LOL! The oil business that Bush ran failed!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Bush was a partner in the ownership of a baseball team (I believe daddy footed the bill for his stake). After 8 years of listening to him speak, one can only assume he was a silent partner.

Anyway, Obama was an Illinois State Senator and a United States Senator. You don't consider these jobs?

You can critisize the work of a commuity organizer if you want but when Bush was the same age as Obama he was bangin coctail waitresses, snortin 8 balls of coke and downin 40 pounders of scotch. All while living off of Daddy's money.

Slightly less nobel "work" than a commuity organizer, don't you think?
 

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Don't you think a CEO who can extract millions and billions of unearned taxpayer dollars from the government and give nothing in return is worth a few mill in his pay envelope?

Sounds like a 110% successful capitalist to me.

Whether he's actually useful to his company, shareholders or country's another matter entirely.

Oh and Ike was a general (a successful one by some accounts) and Truman was a haberdasher.
 

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The way I look at it, the governement has invested money into a company and taken a position, it's like any other investor.

I invested in many companies in my previous life and you damn right I had a say in the compensation of the executives, in addition to setting other conditions. If you're investing money into a company you have every right to challenge expenditures and set conditions, others companies do it, so why can't the government. If they don't like it, you do not have to invest and let the company die.
 

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lookingforitallthetime said:
LOL! The oil business that Bush ran failed!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Bush was a partner in the ownership of a baseball team (I believe daddy footed the bill for his stake). After 8 years of listening to him speak, one can only assume he was a silent partner.

Anyway, Obama was an Illinois State Senator and a United States Senator. You don't consider these jobs?

You can critisize the work of a commuity organizer if you want but when Bush was the same age as Obama he was bangin coctail waitresses, snortin 8 balls of coke and downin 40 pounders of scotch. All while living off of Daddy's money.

Slightly less nobel "work" than a commuity organizer, don't you think?
I think OTB's post also indicated that this wasn't a real job either.
 

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red said:
I think OTB's post also indicated that this wasn't a real job either.
Yes, but let him get his BDS off.... he'll be going into withdrawals soon.....

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With the above as references, what's the advantage of a POTUS being a businessman? In Bush's case it didn't seem to help him one bit.
How could it possibly help to have been a failed businessman?
 

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if you want the govt dime you play by the govt rules
Old Irish saying: "Beggars can't be choosy". Don't want the government to determine your pay scale, don't ask for government money. Actually, the rank and file bank employee could do well as government employees, job security, 12% wage increases, gold plated pension plans, retire at age 55 (look at the teachers).
 

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Rockslinger said:
Old Irish saying: "Beggars can't be choosy". Don't want the government to determine your pay scale, don't ask for government money. Actually, the rank and file bank employee could do well as government employees, job security, 12% wage increases, gold plated pension plans, retire at age 55 (look at the teachers).
Yeah, that's just what the country needs, an economy full of public service employees..... that thought makes me want to horde fire wood.

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Yes, but let him get his BDS off.... he'll be going into withdrawals soon.....

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with respect, you appear to be coming down with ODS. try staying in bed for a few days and avoid tv news
 

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As a caller to Rush suggested this is a great idea if former politicians are limited to the same yearly income.
 

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red said:
with respect, you appear to be coming down with ODS. try staying in bed for a few days and avoid tv news
Naw, it's just been an interesting couple of day....

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