NFL Fans, Week One Schedule 2009

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With NFL camps in full swing and the regular season approximately one month away do we have any prediction on the Super Bowl ?
Or just how you think your team will do ?


Heck any NFL talk would be appreciated.



I am a Cowboys fan.

I predict that the Cowboys will finally win a playoff game again, then some ... could be a SB appearence this season.
I was so glad to hear TO got traded to Buffalo(anywhere but Big D was fine with me). Romo got rid of Jessica, yes the season is looking good and I have not even got to the actual team yet.
Still not sure about Phillips as HC though.





A little early for Wk 1 predictions, but here is the opening week schedule.


Thu Sept 10
Tennesse @ Pittsburgh

Sunday Sept 13
Jacksonville @ Indianapolis
NY Jets @ Houston
Dallas @ Tampa Bay
Miami @ Atlanta
Kansas City @ Baltimore
Denver @ Cincinnati
Detroit @ New Orleans
Minnesota @ Cleveland
Philadelphia @ Carolina
San Francisco @ Arizona
Washington @ NY Giants
ST.Louis @ Seattle
Chicago @ Green Bay

Monday Sept 14
Buffalo @ New England
San Diego @ Oakland
 

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Ironhead said:
With NFL camps in full swing and the regular season approximately one month away do we have any prediction on the Super Bowl ?
Or just how you think your team will do ?


Heck any NFL talk would be appreciated.



I am a Cowboys fan.

I predict that the Cowboys will finally win a playoff game again, then some ... could be a SB appearence this season.
I was so glad to hear TO got traded to Buffalo(anywhere but Big D was fine with me). Romo got rid of Jessica, yes the season is looking good and I have not even got to the actual team yet.
Still not sure about Phillips as HC though.





A little early for Wk 1 predictions, but here is the opening week schedule.


Thu Sept 10
Tennesse @ Pittsburgh

Sunday Sept 13
Jacksonville @ Indianapolis
NY Jets @ Houston
Dallas @ Tampa Bay
Miami @ Atlanta
Kansas City @ Baltimore
Denver @ Cincinnati
Detroit @ New Orleans
Minnesota @ Cleveland
Philadelphia @ Carolina
San Francisco @ Arizona
Washington @ NY Giants
ST.Louis @ Seattle
Chicago @ Green Bay

Monday Sept 14
Buffalo @ New England
San Diego @ Oakland
Best matchup is Chicago vs Green Bay by far. I like Green Bay in that game. Browns over Vikes and Texans over Jets. Texans might be the sleeper team pick of the season. But ya overall, too early to tell.
 

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popsiclepete said:
Best matchup is Chicago vs Green Bay by far. I like Green Bay in that game. Browns over Vikes and Texans over Jets. Texans might be the sleeper team pick of the season. But ya overall, too early to tell.
totally agree with you Texans being the sleeper team pick of the season. I mentioned that I expected the Texans to be a good team in 09 on the various football threads last season.

Disagree with the Browns over Vikes pick though. Not sure how we are making picks this early though. I mean with all due respect to Ironhead who started this thread some starting jobs havent even been decided yet, there are battles going on in training camp and preseason, and injuries could occur during the preseason. popsicle pete, the Vikings defense with Kevin and Pat Williams in the interior of that D-line is a totally different defense with them than without. And dont forget they played part of last season without EJ Henderson who in my opinion is one of the more underrated LBs in the league. I believe the State courts in Minnesota overturned the suspensions for the Williams boys on the whole star-caps case but I believe the NFL is gonna try and appeal to the Federal courts. I dont know about you guys but I will wait until the season gets closer to make picks. Not sure how you make picks when we dont even know who will be playing at certain positions in some games. And what happens if injuries occur between now and then. I dont see Cleveland beating Minnesota if the Williams boys are playing in that game. And the Browns have absolutely no pass-rush and will have to commit 8 to stopping the run against AD and Chester. I also think Percy Harvin will have a good rookie season, he will be used in a variety of ways, at all 3 receiver positions, in the backfield as well as on teams in a return capacity. definitely the 3 areas I am concerned about for the Vikes is 1) QB play 2) Turnovers 3) Teams - awful last year as you will recall.

As far as the Jets go, I think they will have a strong 2nd half of the season but their first half may have some growing pains. I expect Sanchez to be starting under center for week 1 (though the battle is still officially going on between him and Clemens and quite frankly word is Clemens has a better grasp of the offense thus far). I think though when you sign a QB that early as the Jets did with Sanchez its because you want him to get in and get all the work done in training camp and you dont want him to miss any time due to a hold out. Also, when you trade up in the draft to draft Sanchez you probably dont do it to have him carry a clipboard on the sidelines. Plus they have protection for Sanchez in the way of Thomas Jones who had a good season last year. I like the receivers too with Cotchery and Stuckey and Dustin Keller had a nice season last year at TE. Pretty nice O-line too particularly the left side with Ferguson, Faneca and Mangold.


So I expect the Jets to start with a rookie QB and a new Rex Ryan defense and so I think the defense may not be as good as it will be until later in the season. The Jets defense have a lot of talent with Scott and Revis and Rhodes and Leonard (who is no Ed Reed but he played well last season for Baltimore) and Jenkins. It will take some time though for the defense to adjust to Rex Ryan's system.
 
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popsiclepete said:
Best matchup is Chicago vs Green Bay by far. .

Not sure I agree with that. To me PHI v. Carolina and NYG v. WSH look like pretty darn good games too not to mention ATL v. MIA. Not saying your wrong on CHI v. GB but to say "by far" I think is a stretch.

Philly v. Carolina looks like a very good game to me too though. In fact to me that is the best game on the dockett. Yeah I know Delhomme had that horrible game in the playoffs against the Cards but still I think this will be a very good game. I expect Philly to have one of the top offenses in the league this year. More weapons for McNabb this year, they solidified the protection for him too getting him two new tackles in Peters and Stacy Andrews. By the way Buffalo fans, why the hell did BUF let Peters go and not even replace him? What the hell is Buffalo thinking? Jason Peters is one of the leagues better tackles. The protection is solidified though and if Maclin can even do anything close to what Desean "Fraction" Jackson did last year for Philly in his rookie campaign then the Eagles will have a formidable tandem at receiver. I know Westbrook has been missing time in training camp but I dont think thats a big concern. Its not a big deal if a star vet misses some time in camp I'd rather him be healthy. Plus it also gives a chance for Mccoy and Booker to learn pass-pro. The loss of Dawkins though will be a hit though even though he was aging. Lets face it when you lose a guy like B.Dawk you lose that great communicator on the back-end of the defense that can get everyone lined up and ready to play. You lose I think an inspirational leader. Brian Dawkins was a physical prescence and an excellent tackler in terms of their run defense. But I did like what I saw from Quentin Mikell last season though and I think he is ready to step in and be a playmaker in that secondary. One thing to look for though is how the Eagles do on short-yardage situations this year. It was an issue for them last year. If that O-line can be more explosive and they can get Leonard Weaver going then maybe they can clean that area up because they struggled last year in short yardage situations. If you ask me I think they should go out and sign a veteran back like Deuce Mcallister who is a thumper back that can come in specifically for short-yardage situations. He wont be the feature back obviously but he can just be the short-yardage specialist. Carolina took a hit though this week with Kemeaoutu gone for the season. That is a big loss as he played well for them last season. But I love the backfield with "Smash and Dash" uh I mean "Identity and Theft" (as Lendale would say) and they have Steve Smith. They have playmakers on all 3 levels of the defense with Peppers, Beason and Harris.

Carolina/Philly is the game I am most looking forward to (not including the Falcons game because I am a Falcons fan and of course that is the game I look forward to most).

WSH and NYG - I mean talk about two defenses that will be balling this season. Big Blue's D-line is a solid groups that they can rotate guys in and out from. They got a lot of good pass-rushers with Osi, Tuck, Kiwanuka. I like their D-tackles with Robbins, Cofield and offseason pickups Canty and Rocky Bernard (I thought this was a really shrewd pick up by GM Jerry Reese in the offseason. This D-line will be as good as they were in the SB year and that will make things easier for the LBs and the secondary. Granted they lost Wind from "Earth , Wind and Fire" but Jacobs and Bradshaw should be able to handle the load. I am not that concerned with the receiving corps. I know some will point to the fact that the Giants dont have Plax anymore and lost Toomer to FA and they didnt really make any notable FA acquisitions in that department but the Giants have great structure in the organization, they have a franchise QB, the team is built around running the football and playing defense , and then you have a timely play-action kind of oriented passing attack. So I think they will be fine offensively.

As far as the Skins go, sure the question is at QB and the O-line but I think their defense will be balling. Haynesworth up front, London Fletcher a tackling machine at LB and a really good secondary with guys like Horton and Landry and Hall. Yeah I know Hall is a little overrated and probably overpaid but he is a good player just not as good as he likes to think he is. But the prescence of Haynesworth up-front should help the secondary.

Cant wait to discuss all the games with you guys during the season. I know a lot of the terbites like to bet on the games but hopefully everyone will be watching the games too so we can discuss the various games we saw.

Love football season. Wish there was more talk on football the past few months. I know football doesnt generally get a lot of talk during the offseason on terb but I for one wish there was more.
 

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Here are some cant miss predictions :

1- Detroit will not be in the 2010 Superbowl (maybe not the 20xx Superbowl either, but is 990 years too long to wait?)
2- The Lions will beat their 2008 win total.


There are the only sure things in Football.

As for the Boys, if they dont step up this year you can say goodbye to Philips. They are not a better team without Owens. Look what happened to San Fran and Philly after they let him go...
Houston would be a dynasty if they relocated to the NFC West or North but unfortunately they play in the best division in football. I just dont see them overtaking their division rivals at this point...
 

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DirtyDave said:
Here are some cant miss predictions :

1- Detroit will not be in the 2010 Superbowl (maybe not the 20xx Superbowl either, but is 990 years too long to wait?)
2- The Lions will beat their 2008 win total.


There are the only sure things in Football.

As for the Boys, if they dont step up this year you can say goodbye to Philips. They are not a better team without Owens. Look what happened to San Fran and Philly after they let him go...
Houston would be a dynasty if they relocated to the NFC West or North but unfortunately they play in the best division in football. I just dont see them overtaking their division rivals at this point...
Dont forget though there is some transition with the colts with changes in the coaching staff. I am not as concerned with Caldwell replacing Dungy as I am with Ron Meeks leaving. Owens was a distraction for sure in Big D but I do agree that it wont be easy to replace his production. Roy Williams needs to step up. That said, I was watching NFL Total Access last week and apparently Romo is throwing passes to Roy Williams even before Roy cut which means they are getting into a groove on their timing so that is a positive for Boys fans. The passing game after all does have a lot to do with timing between QB and Receiver. If your waiting for your receivers to get open and then throw the pass then that is a recipe for disaster because by the time the ball gets there that receiver may not be open anymore. You gotta anticipate your receiver being open , throw the ball to a location and expect your guy to be there to catch it.

I dont expect the Titans defense to be as good as last year. I still like their secondary with guys like Finnegan and Griffen (one of the better safeties in the league) and Chris Hope but generally speaking pressure trumps coverage and to be quite honest you could have a dream team secondary of Reed , Polamalu, Asamghua and Revis but if you cant rush the passer than those guys arent gonna be able to cover. The key for the Titans is can they rush the passer? If they can then I think they will win at least 10 or more games this season. Of course they have a more difficult sched this season since they won a lot of games last year. I will say that the Titans do have some nice young looking D-lineman with Jason Jones and William Hayes (guys that I commented about terb during last season - so no I am not just bringing their names up out of nowhere, I saw these guys play last year). But can they fill the void that Haynesworth left? Those are some big shoes to fill. Haynesworth was such a space eater and could get penetration and penetration destroys running plays and also getting a push up-front prevents opposing QBs from stepping up in the pocket, they got flushed out into the waiting hands of guys like Vandenbosch last year. Haynesworth's value really cannot be gauged on stats. If you look at stats alone you might not think of highly of Haynesworth's value. But anyone that actually takes the time to watch the games knows how valuable a player he was for the Titans. Question is will he now become complacent in WSH now that he has his big time contract.

I do expect Jacksonville to have a bit of a bounce back season. Last year injuries on the O-line really hurt them. It will be interesting to see if Eugene Monroe is the starting LT or if its Tra Thomas. My guess is Tra Thomas will start the season as the starting LT spot. Could you imagine Monroe's first assignment being to block Dwight Freeney in Indianapolis no less. Yikes! Get ready for that spin-move Eugene!

As for PHI like I said before I expect their offense to be a juggernaut this season. McNabb's protection has been solidified with Peters and Andrews as new bookend tackles plus they drafted 3 new weapons for Donovan and I think they will all contribute in their first season. I like Jeremy Maclin and Lesean Mccoy. If Maclin can just duplicate what Fraction Jackson did last season then the Eagles will have a pretty nice tandem of receivers. Unfortunately Ingrim got injured and I think he is gone for the season and to be honeset I thought Ingrim is a better football player than his draft spot indicated but his stock dropped due to concerns about his knee. The concerns for the Eagles I think might be on defense with the losses of B.Dawk, Bradley and Jim Johnson. Those were 3 core pieces to that defense.
 
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DirtyDave said:
Here are some cant miss predictions :

1- Detroit will not be in the 2010 Superbowl (maybe not the 20xx Superbowl either, but is 990 years too long to wait?)
2- The Lions will beat their 2008 win total.


There are the only sure things in Football.

As for the Boys, if they dont step up this year you can say goodbye to Philips. They are not a better team without Owens. Look what happened to San Fran and Philly after they let him go...
Houston would be a dynasty if they relocated to the NFC West or North but unfortunately they play in the best division in football. I just dont see them overtaking their division rivals at this point...

The Lions have not won an NFL Championship since 1957!!!!!!!!!!! Thats a hell of a drought I'd say!!
 

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popsiclepete said:
Best matchup is Chicago vs Green Bay by far. I like Green Bay in that game. Browns over Vikes and Texans over Jets. Texans might be the sleeper team pick of the season. But ya overall, too early to tell.
Should be interesting though to see how Dom Capers new defense will be in Green Bay. I mentioned on the NFL offseason thread earlier this year that the Packers would be converrting to a 3-4 this year. Kampman will be playing that elephant position and to be honest it is a big adjustment playing with your hand down the majority of the time to now playing standing up. I dont know about you guys but to me Kampman doesnt strike me as the type that will be effective as a 3-4 OLB but I could be wrong. There will also be some more coverage responsibility for Kampman. Also, they will need BJ Raji to play well at nosetackle if the 3-4 is to be successfull. If I'm not mistaken though Raji is still holding out and that is not good because he was expected to be their starting nose tackle in Dom Capers 3-4 defense.
 

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Should be interesting though to see how Dom Capers new defense will be in Green Bay. I mentioned on the NFL offseason thread earlier this year that the Packers would be converrting to a 3-4 this year. Kampman will be playing that elephant position and to be honest it is a big adjustment playing with your hand down the majority of the time to now playing standing up. I dont know about you guys but to me Kampman doesnt strike me as the type that will be effective as a 3-4 OLB but I could be wrong. There will also be some more coverage responsibility for Kampman. Also, they will need BJ Raji to play well at nosetackle if the 3-4 is to be successfull. If I'm not mistaken though Raji is still holding out and that is not good because he was expected to be their starting nose tackle in Dom Capers 3-4 defense.
buddy, you should be writing for S.I.lol!
 

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bullitt said:
buddy, you should be writing for S.I.lol!
Haha, I appreciate the complement. It would be a dream to work for SI or ESPN or something like that. I am no smarter than anyone else though. Ive never played football at any level but I just watch a ton of football and have pretty much learned the game little by little through watching a ton of games. Like I said, I literally have no life on Sundays, I sit in front of my TV from 11am until midnight maybe going to the refridgerator at halftimes of the games LOL. You watch, you learn. Anyone can do it. But it takes a long time.

In my opinion football is the sport that takes the longest to learn. It probably took me about a good 7 years of hardcore watching football to gain a full understanding for all the nuances and complexities of the game. Anyone that says they can gain a full understanding of the game in one or two years of watching the game is either lying or dumb.

That being said I still will find myself watching football every season and each season will learn a few new things.
 

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Bob Loblaw said:
My out on a (sort of) limb thoughts (one per division):

Dolphins will finish below .500 this year. Last year, pretty much everything went their way. Tougher schedule this season, they won't surprise anyone.
Totally agree that the Fish may take a slight step back this season. I dont know if they will go below .500 but i do agree that they will take a step back. LIke you said a lot of things went their way last season they won a lot of close games, they have a tougher schedule this year and teams will be prepared for Sporano's wildcat this time around. Can Joey Porter repeat what he did last year? That will be key.

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Steelers will start slow, but will still win the division. May even repeat as Champs.
I mentioned many times last season on the various football threads that I thought the Steelers O-line was their achillees heel. That being said they still were able to win the SB. Their O-line was not that good especially in pass-pro last season and I think if their O-line can play better than it did last year than there is no reason they cant repeat.

They still got their playmakers on defense with Harrison, Polamalu, Woodley et al. And offensively they werent great last year but they didnt need to be because their defense was so dominant.

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Colts will still be very solid, despite the coaching changes.

The one good thing about this season for the Colts is that Peyton is not missing training camp like he did last year so he is able to get the timing down with his receivers. I think Anthony Gonzalez should take a step forward this season as well.

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Chargers will finally put it together this season and will get to at least the AFC Championship.
I expect the Chargers defense to be much better this year. Ron Riviera will have a full training camp and preseason to work with the defense and he is a far more aggressive DC than Ted Cottrell was. Cotrell was more of a coverage guy and wait for the offense to make mistakes. Ron Riviera likes to force the issue and try to make things happen with his defenses. The Bolts still have Superman at nosetackle with Jamal Williams (one of my favorite players in the league to watch). Also I really like their edge-rushers. They have a good rotation there with Lights, Phillips and now the rookie Larry English. I also expect Cromartie to have a bounce back season and be the elite corner that he was a couple years ago. He was not playing healthy last year. Love their teams play too. Mike Scifres, Darren Sproles. Those guys were key in the playoff game last year versus the Colts.

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Giants will not make playoffs.
This one I respectfully disagree with you on. I think Big Blue's defense is gonna be balling this year. They have a lot of depth on that D-line now, much like the Superbowl year. They got Osi back. So Tuck will be getting a lot of one-on-one matchups on the other side. I really like their depth at DT. They made some shrewd moves in the offseason to bolster the defense. Canty, Bernard and Boley will all improve the defense. Their def line especially looks to be the strength of that team. Granted the Giants did lose Wind from Earth Wind and Fire but I think the Giants will still be able to run the ball effectively. I know they dont have Plax but the Giants are built around playing defense, running the football and then timely play-action off of the running game. It would not surprise me to see the Giants make a deep run. They did lose Spagnolo though and he was a really good def coordinator for them. So that will be a bit of a hit.
 

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Bob Loblaw said:
My picks:
AFC EAST: Patriots
AFC NORTH: Steelers
AFC SOUTH: Colts
AFC WEST: Chargers
WILDCARDS: Titans & Ravens

NFC EAST: Eagles
NFC NORTH: Packers
NFC SOUTH: Saints
NFC WEST: Cardinals
WILDCARDS: Cowboys & Bears

SUPER BOWL: Chargers over Packers
No playoffs for my Dirty Birds? :(

They do have a tough sched this year though they gotta play the AFC East and NFC East, yikes. Plus we gotta play 4 teams coming off of byes. Falcons will have to outscore teams to win games but I think they can put up a lot of points, the concerns will be defensively.
 

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ahahooper said:
would love to see the eagles win with mcnabb.
i just dont see success under the reign of andy reid.
I actually like Andy Reid as a head coach. I think the Eagles offense will be one of the top offenses in the league this year. Peters and Andrews solidifies the protection for McNabb. Plus they have more weapons for McNabb this year not just Desean and Westbrook. I expect Maclin and Mccoy to contribute immediately. Too bad they lost Ingrim though to injury.

The concerns for me are defensively. Sean McDermott has to fill some big shoes with the passing of Jim Johnson. It will still be that same Bears 46 defense but its more than just the system its also about play-calling and the timing of those play-calls. The Eagles also lost B.Dawk to FA. I think they will be okay though b/c B.Dawk was getting a little long in the tooth but Quintin Mikell played well last season. Where they will miss B.Dawk most is his leadership and inspirational ability. He was the heart and soul of that defense. Stewart Bradley though is a key loss.

I still think the Eagles need a thumper back though. A power back that can get them the hard yards in short yardage situations. That was an area of concern for them last season. Those that watched Eagles games last season know what I'm referring to.
 

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i think reid is a very good coach. it feels as though the "best" of the eagles has passed by under reids tenure. i sure hope im wrong though

i think the loss of dawkins is huge. agreed at 35 his contribution will be less, but like you said absolute heart and soul of the team.

still grieving the loss of JJ
 

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ahahooper said:
still grieving the loss of JJ
Love JJ, and I'm not even an Eagles fan. I'm a Falcons fan but I recognize and appreciate good players and coaches when I see one. Jim Johnson was one of the best. seemed like he was content being a coordinator too. You never heard his name come around too often for head coaching gigs. One thing I dont like about the NFL HOF is that only head coaches get in. Guys like Dick Lebeau and Jim Johnson should be in there as well. If you ask me the HOF should have a wing for coordinators or just put them in the same wing as the coaches. IMO it is a travesty that Lebeau isnt in the hall of fame given his contributions to the game.

JJ was so passionate as well about his craft. I remember last year in the NFC Championship game he was up in the press-box calling the defensive plays from there because he was in too much physical pain to be standing around on the sidelines. But thats how much committment he had to his players.
 
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