Hi my fellow terbites! Any news on this new law would be appreciated. My lawyer client away until end of month basking in the sun in Cuba! Need to know what's going on in plain English. Please. I have been ALWAYS careful but need to know if I should be extra paranoid careful now. Lol. Safety 1st for me. $ always 3rd after health! XO
New law
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First thing that you have to deal with is the advertising part of it all. You cannot signal directly, or maybe even indirectly what you will offer to the clients.
Then, you have to think about how you will screen clients, for your own safety and that of any one who will be working with you.
It is all a mixed jumble of confusion that I think even LE may have trouble understanding.
On the plus side for you, MPA and SP are immune form prosecution and/or arrest, unless there is an exploitative situation, or underage people or children can be involved.
Hopefully, your lawyer client will bring back some Cuban coffee, cigars or Havana Club rum.
Then, you have to think about how you will screen clients, for your own safety and that of any one who will be working with you.
It is all a mixed jumble of confusion that I think even LE may have trouble understanding.
On the plus side for you, MPA and SP are immune form prosecution and/or arrest, unless there is an exploitative situation, or underage people or children can be involved.
Hopefully, your lawyer client will bring back some Cuban coffee, cigars or Havana Club rum.
its business as usual if there is absolute zero mention of money. just hand an envelope at the end and run out the door looking for sirens and flashing lights.
So.... I can advertise company wanted. I accept roses. Example I offer my company in exchange for 100 roses. Seems ok. I actually have seen that before lol. So that will take care of that part. So when client comes in. Hell hand an envelope saying here's the roses??? Or say nothing. So really its the guys that could be in trouble. But how? The cops can't come into a private apt. They can only go into spas. They frequent spas a lot. I've never run into them coming into my apt because its always locked. The spas you can Walk in.
I think that you still have to be careful with the mention of roses, and any description of the company that you seek. I don't know exactly the wording of this draconian law with respect to commercial transactions, but barter might also be illegal. You have to be extremely careful not to mention sexual gratification in the ad. As for private apartment, I think that they would be coming in for clients, and all they ned is reasonable and probable grounds to do so without a warrant. This new law scares me; it is so oppressive. But, we can only hope that LE will only enforce it when they believe that there is exploitation, oppression or drugs, etc.
Going forward, we have to be careful. In the USA, the sex trade is illegal and the laws are worse than in Canada. But, there still are sex workers! maybe, we all need to adopt the US business model. Be careful and safe, as you usually are, dear Lady, and discrete, and things should be OK.
I would only listen to information you get from reputable sources. I was curious myself and I found this.
http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news...-everything-you-need-to-know/article19610318/
It should have everything you need to know about the new law.
http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news...-everything-you-need-to-know/article19610318/
It should have everything you need to know about the new law.
"6. Can anyone still advertise the sale of sex?
Yes – sex workers themselves. The bill includes an exemption that says no one will be prosecuted for “an advertisement of their own sexual services,” though platforms that actually knowingly run the ads may face prosecution."
Yes – sex workers themselves. The bill includes an exemption that says no one will be prosecuted for “an advertisement of their own sexual services,” though platforms that actually knowingly run the ads may face prosecution."
It seems to say that the escort can advertise but there is nowhere that she can advertise. Which makes sense when the new law also says an escort can sell sex but nobody can purchase it. And the government knows full well that like the last law, this one will not stand up to a Supreme Court challenge.
Note to the ghost of George Orwell........... no we are not making this shit up.
As well for advertising - advertise massage, with a link to your website? I myself do not understand how this is 'safer'... The laws are based on morality rather then the right to work. All this is going to do is push this industry further underground. Although sp's won't be charged for working they can be charged for advertising, as well as the company used to advertise- huh? As an sp it's okay to see clients but as a john it's not okay to see a girl... I think this is going to push more girls to walk the street and increase the risk rather then protecting anyone.
Check out some of the articles here, but in a nut shell, apart from the fact that customers who obtain sex for consideration (or who communicate for that purpose) are committing an offence:
1. It is an OFFENCE for EVERYONE to advertise sexual services.
2. It is an OFFENCE for EVERYONE to materially benefit from the sale of sexual services.
3. It is an OFFENCE if anyone communicates about sexual services near children (school, daycare or playground).
4. Sex workers are IMMUNE from prosecution for OFFENCES in points 1. and 2. above (but this doesn't necessarily mean that they can't be arrested or charged - perhaps for harassment purposes or to gain leverage in extracting info about clients?).
5. Sex workers are also IMMUNE from prosecution for aiding, or abetting and entrapping buyers.
Offering companionship is preferred than to explicitly offer sex ("money is for time and companionship - anything else that happens is between two consenting adults"), as easier to get your clients in trouble if not scare them away. I doubt mention of 'roses' will matter, since the law doesn't specify money, only 'consideration'. You may not find a 3rd party venue to advertise sex outright, unless it involves an online medium with their server and office domiciled in a foreign jurisdiction.
Barter transactions were discussed in another thread. A customer can't get around the offence of 'obtaining sexual services for consideration' by bartering.
Also, read the CHALLENGED thread which details the likelihood of surveillance and onus of proof for LE when it comes to phone communications including sex.
One more thing: If you profit as a partnering SP in a commercial enterprise that engages in the offer of sex, you may be committing an offence too.
1. It is an OFFENCE for EVERYONE to advertise sexual services.
2. It is an OFFENCE for EVERYONE to materially benefit from the sale of sexual services.
3. It is an OFFENCE if anyone communicates about sexual services near children (school, daycare or playground).
4. Sex workers are IMMUNE from prosecution for OFFENCES in points 1. and 2. above (but this doesn't necessarily mean that they can't be arrested or charged - perhaps for harassment purposes or to gain leverage in extracting info about clients?).
5. Sex workers are also IMMUNE from prosecution for aiding, or abetting and entrapping buyers.
Offering companionship is preferred than to explicitly offer sex ("money is for time and companionship - anything else that happens is between two consenting adults"), as easier to get your clients in trouble if not scare them away. I doubt mention of 'roses' will matter, since the law doesn't specify money, only 'consideration'. You may not find a 3rd party venue to advertise sex outright, unless it involves an online medium with their server and office domiciled in a foreign jurisdiction.
Barter transactions were discussed in another thread. A customer can't get around the offence of 'obtaining sexual services for consideration' by bartering.
Also, read the CHALLENGED thread which details the likelihood of surveillance and onus of proof for LE when it comes to phone communications including sex.
One more thing: If you profit as a partnering SP in a commercial enterprise that engages in the offer of sex, you may be committing an offence too.
Been reading quite a lot actually but I think that candi is correct. Just don't talk money then should be fine. I've been at this 14 years and I've always been careful. Hell I've even done a few Le down the line I'm sure. They r human like everyone else. Just be nice careful I'd say not greedy. Keep your place drug free work privately quietly not too much traffic and should be good. I've always stayed with rule #5. 5 clients only a day one hour each spaced apart by 30 min. Some park and walk. The first and last drive into lot and presto! 14 years later not one issue. I am very careful with new ones. I get tons and tons of email. My other rule is safety FIRST , money 2nd. My advice just visit don't talk money. And always tips are always for time and companionship only. With new clients. With Reg there is no concern. Stick to the one girl only in one location and all ok I think. Usually in my experience Le goes to places that have more then ONE girl working. Stay safe. XO
Sweetheart, I think that your methodology is fantastic. I have always felt safe with you.
Keep safe and happy. Hope to see you soon for a massage.
