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NATO sees Russia as a threat to US power—and has poured arms and soldiers into eastern Europe accordingly. That’s not the latest statement from the Stop the War Coalition—but the picture NATO paints itself in its annual report released on Thursday.


The report gives an outline of what the US’s military alliance got up to in 2021 and spells out its aims for the years ahead. It all comes packaged in the language of “cooperation” and “security.” But once you strip out the guff, what the report really says is NATO’s biggest concern is containing Russia and China.


In his foreword to the report, NATO secretary general Jens Stoltenberg writes, “We have entered a new era in global security, where authoritarian powers, like Russia and China, are openly contesting core principles for our security, and seeking to re-write the entire international order on which our peace and prosperity depend.”


That “international order” is one in which markets are dominated by US business. The “core principles of our security” are the military alliances built to protect that.

Stoltenberg, like US president Joe Biden, is worried that Russia and China could threaten it—and even overturn it. The rest of the report aims at reassuring Western journalists and politicians that NATO has those threats under control—parading its militarism for all the world to see.


So it barely mentions NATO’s defeat in Afghanistan last year, except to dress up the two-decade war as some sort of success. But it spends much more time describing NATO’s plans to fill eastern Europe with soldiers and weapons.


Presenting the report on Thursday, Stoltenberg told the assembled press proudly, “Over the years, allies have trained tens of thousands of Ukrainian troops, provided modern equipment. The Ukrainian forces are now bigger, better-equipped, better-trained, and better-led than ever before.”

And the report itself boasts of how eastern Europe is bristling with NATO soldiers ready for war. “In the Baltic Sea region, the Alliance continued to deploy four battalion-size multinational and combat-ready battlegroups led by the United Kingdom in Estonia by Canada in Latvia, by Germany in Lithuania, and by the United States in Poland,” it says. The battlegroups together make up “thousands of troops from multiple NATO allies.”


And that was before NATO “more than doubled our military presence” in eastern Europe in recent weeks “with more troops, aircraft and ships.” The report also highlights its “flagship” exercise of 2021, “Steadfast Defender”—where 9,000 soldiers from 20 countries practiced a war in Romania, Bulgaria, Hungary and Portugal. We learn Ukraine’s “cooperation” with NATO included sending soldiers to “advise” and “assist” the Afghan army.


But we’re also told of how NATO helped “strengthen” Georgia’s military—with a view eventually allowing it to join—and of its close cooperation with non-members Finland and Sweden.

The impression we’re supposed to take from all of this is one of a strong, unified NATO ready to defend the West’s dominance. But in doing so, we get an insight into the militarization of Europe that fueled the war.

China also sees war in Ukraine through the prism of a bigger confrontation between itself and the US. A recent article in the Global Times newspaper—owned by the ruling Chinese Communist Party—on China’s relationship with Russia, gives some insight into its rulers’ thinking. Its author, Hu Xijin, is the paper’s former editor in chief and is often seen as a mouthpiece for the Chinese government. He says “the Chinese people”—for him, synonymous with the Chinese state—thinks the US’s long term goal is to isolate China from Russia.


“Who is the No.1 strategic adversary viewed by the US today?” asks Hu. “The answer is China, not Russia.” Nevertheless, “As an irreplaceable partner, Russia is strategically important to China.”


Russia has supported China against the US in disputes in the South China Sea. It also gives China access to energy, food and raw materials it needs to avoid US sanctions. More frighteningly, Hu also raises the prospect of nuclear confrontation. “If a war breaks out in the Taiwan Straits or in the South China Sea, the US will find it hard to impose nuclear blackmail toward China,” he says.

“No matter Russia supports China or remains neutral at that time, it will be a super nuclear force which is hostile toward the US. China itself is a nuclear power. And the US will have to be wary of Russia leaping from a position of nuclear parity with the US to a position with nuclear advantage.”


For Hu, this is a good thing. It shows the “complementary strengths” of China and Russia can keep the US out of central Asia and stifle its allies.


For ordinary people it should be terrifying. It shows how strategies and calculations of competing states boil down to gambling with the lives of millions.


This is an attitude China and the US share. NATO’s report also talks about developing its “nuclear deterrent”.


Taken together, the two competing powers spell out a pathway towards annihilation.

NATO countries are ramping up their arms spending. Jens Stoltenberg told the press last Thursday, “2021 was the seventh consecutive year of rising defense spending across European Allies and Canada, amounting to a 3.1 percent rise in real terms,”


That meant £205 billion extra since 2014. Some of the biggest increases came from countries in eastern Europe and the Balkans.


In total, NATO countries spent £762 billion on arms and the military in 2021 alone. NATO demands that its members spend at least two percent of their gross domestic product—their total economic output—on the military. Britain went well above that in 2021. It’s responsible for 6 percent of NATO defense spending—more than any other country in Europe.



Russia has started looking to China to help arm its military. For some 30 years, Russia helped China to grow as a military power. Russian weapons makers supplied the Chinese army with missiles, helicopters and advanced fighter jets worth an average of £1 billion a year.


But now the Financial Times newspaper reports that Russia has asked China for missiles, drones and armored vehicles to help its invasion of Ukraine. China has begun manufacturing arms products it previously bought from Russia. More recently, it has bought off-road vehicles and engines for tanks and navy ships from China to replace those it buys from arms companies in Europe.

 

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NATO sees Russia as a threat to US power—and has poured arms and soldiers into eastern Europe accordingly. That’s not the latest statement from the Stop the War Coalition—but the picture NATO paints itself in its annual report released on Thursday.


The report gives an outline of what the US’s military alliance got up to in 2021 and spells out its aims for the years ahead. It all comes packaged in the language of “cooperation” and “security.” But once you strip out the guff, what the report really says is NATO’s biggest concern is containing Russia and China.


In his foreword to the report, NATO secretary general Jens Stoltenberg writes, “We have entered a new era in global security, where authoritarian powers, like Russia and China, are openly contesting core principles for our security, and seeking to re-write the entire international order on which our peace and prosperity depend.”


That “international order” is one in which markets are dominated by US business. The “core principles of our security” are the military alliances built to protect that.

Stoltenberg, like US president Joe Biden, is worried that Russia and China could threaten it—and even overturn it. The rest of the report aims at reassuring Western journalists and politicians that NATO has those threats under control—parading its militarism for all the world to see.


So it barely mentions NATO’s defeat in Afghanistan last year, except to dress up the two-decade war as some sort of success. But it spends much more time describing NATO’s plans to fill eastern Europe with soldiers and weapons.


Presenting the report on Thursday, Stoltenberg told the assembled press proudly, “Over the years, allies have trained tens of thousands of Ukrainian troops, provided modern equipment. The Ukrainian forces are now bigger, better-equipped, better-trained, and better-led than ever before.”

And the report itself boasts of how eastern Europe is bristling with NATO soldiers ready for war. “In the Baltic Sea region, the Alliance continued to deploy four battalion-size multinational and combat-ready battlegroups led by the United Kingdom in Estonia by Canada in Latvia, by Germany in Lithuania, and by the United States in Poland,” it says. The battlegroups together make up “thousands of troops from multiple NATO allies.”


And that was before NATO “more than doubled our military presence” in eastern Europe in recent weeks “with more troops, aircraft and ships.” The report also highlights its “flagship” exercise of 2021, “Steadfast Defender”—where 9,000 soldiers from 20 countries practiced a war in Romania, Bulgaria, Hungary and Portugal. We learn Ukraine’s “cooperation” with NATO included sending soldiers to “advise” and “assist” the Afghan army.


But we’re also told of how NATO helped “strengthen” Georgia’s military—with a view eventually allowing it to join—and of its close cooperation with non-members Finland and Sweden.

The impression we’re supposed to take from all of this is one of a strong, unified NATO ready to defend the West’s dominance. But in doing so, we get an insight into the militarization of Europe that fueled the war.

China also sees war in Ukraine through the prism of a bigger confrontation between itself and the US. A recent article in the Global Times newspaper—owned by the ruling Chinese Communist Party—on China’s relationship with Russia, gives some insight into its rulers’ thinking. Its author, Hu Xijin, is the paper’s former editor in chief and is often seen as a mouthpiece for the Chinese government. He says “the Chinese people”—for him, synonymous with the Chinese state—thinks the US’s long term goal is to isolate China from Russia.


“Who is the No.1 strategic adversary viewed by the US today?” asks Hu. “The answer is China, not Russia.” Nevertheless, “As an irreplaceable partner, Russia is strategically important to China.”


Russia has supported China against the US in disputes in the South China Sea. It also gives China access to energy, food and raw materials it needs to avoid US sanctions. More frighteningly, Hu also raises the prospect of nuclear confrontation. “If a war breaks out in the Taiwan Straits or in the South China Sea, the US will find it hard to impose nuclear blackmail toward China,” he says.

“No matter Russia supports China or remains neutral at that time, it will be a super nuclear force which is hostile toward the US. China itself is a nuclear power. And the US will have to be wary of Russia leaping from a position of nuclear parity with the US to a position with nuclear advantage.”


For Hu, this is a good thing. It shows the “complementary strengths” of China and Russia can keep the US out of central Asia and stifle its allies.


For ordinary people it should be terrifying. It shows how strategies and calculations of competing states boil down to gambling with the lives of millions.


This is an attitude China and the US share. NATO’s report also talks about developing its “nuclear deterrent”.


Taken together, the two competing powers spell out a pathway towards annihilation.

NATO countries are ramping up their arms spending. Jens Stoltenberg told the press last Thursday, “2021 was the seventh consecutive year of rising defense spending across European Allies and Canada, amounting to a 3.1 percent rise in real terms,”


That meant £205 billion extra since 2014. Some of the biggest increases came from countries in eastern Europe and the Balkans.


In total, NATO countries spent £762 billion on arms and the military in 2021 alone. NATO demands that its members spend at least two percent of their gross domestic product—their total economic output—on the military. Britain went well above that in 2021. It’s responsible for 6 percent of NATO defense spending—more than any other country in Europe.



Russia has started looking to China to help arm its military. For some 30 years, Russia helped China to grow as a military power. Russian weapons makers supplied the Chinese army with missiles, helicopters and advanced fighter jets worth an average of £1 billion a year.


But now the Financial Times newspaper reports that Russia has asked China for missiles, drones and armored vehicles to help its invasion of Ukraine. China has begun manufacturing arms products it previously bought from Russia. More recently, it has bought off-road vehicles and engines for tanks and navy ships from China to replace those it buys from arms companies in Europe.

Pure madness. The North Atlantic countries see China as enemy.
 

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For all the pseudo military and tactical genius on this board who are regularly criticizing US and NATO response what should they be doing?
 
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I like the storied 101st Airborne. The fame "Screaming Eagles".
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All those nice shiny weapons that they have no intention of ever using or putting to good use as in now.
 

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For all the pseudo military and tactical genius on this board who are regularly criticizing US and NATO response what should they be doing?
They will let you know after watching comrade Tucker Carlson's show.
 
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For all the pseudo military and tactical genius on this board who are regularly criticizing US and NATO response what should they be doing?
I don't claim to be a military genius. Nonetheless it should be obvious enforcement
of sanctions on energy exports alone should bring down Putin. Putin cannot
threaten EU with nuclear attacks if EU and Biden refuse to buy his fossil
fuel. But given Biden's desperation in finding substitute for a dinky amount
of Russian oil import and EU's helplessness military build up is better
than no response.

They will let you know after watching comrade Tucker Carlson's show.


I think more than a few Republicans are supportive of applying oil sanctions for real,
aren't they?


 
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For all the pseudo military and tactical genius on this board who are regularly criticizing US and NATO response what should they be doing?
They should be negotiating a new European security architecture with Russia that mutually demilitarizes both sides, and creates buffer DMZs along with robust verification mechanisms. They also need to start banning certain classes of weapons (not easy here) such Intermediate range hypersonic nuclear missile. The number of hypersonic tactical missiles should also be limited. Future weapons such as nuclear powered cruise missiles, Lasers and nuclear doomsday torpedo's should also be tabled for discussion in addition to ABMs. Russia has already expressed a desire to deescalate the arms race, but the US and NATO were not willing to discuss and now we are at war.
 

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I don't claim to be a military genius. Nonetheless it should be obvious enforcement
of sanctions on energy exports alone should bring down Putin. Putin cannot
threaten EU with nuclear attacks if EU and Biden refuse to buy his fossil
fuel. But given Biden's desperation in finding substitute for a dinky amount
of Russian oil import and EU's helplessness military build up is better
than no response.
Explain to me how Putin cannot threaten Europe with nukes if they don't buy his oil and gas? I don't see how they are related. In any case, China and India will buy his oil and gas as will many other nations that are needing energy.
 

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They should be negotiating a new European security architecture with Russia that mutually demilitarizes both sides, and creates buffer DMZs along with robust verification mechanisms. They also need to start banning certain classes of weapons (not easy here) such Intermediate range hypersonic nuclear missile. The number of hypersonic tactical missiles should also be limited. Future weapons such as nuclear powered cruise missiles, Lasers and nuclear doomsday torpedo's should also be tabled for discussion in addition to ABMs. Russia has already expressed a desire to deescalate the arms race, but the US and NATO were not willing to discuss and now we are at war.
Russia has 7k nukes, which is more than anyone else. How is that Putin trying to deescalate? Turn off the RT news bro.
 
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Russia has 7k nukes, which is more than anyone else. How is that Putin trying to deescalate? Turn off the RT news bro.
Because the US put ABM missiles in Romania and Poland .But of course you did not know that, did you? Also the US is the one that cancelled the Open Skies treaty and the INF treaty. Both of which made the accession of Ukraine to NATO very dangerous for Russia. But you don't sound like the type of person that understands this details.
 

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Russia has already expressed a desire to deescalate the arms race, but the US and NATO were not willing to discuss and now we are at war.
Really? Russia attacked Ukraine because NATO wouldn't talk deescalation?
I didn't even think its possible to fall so deeply into Russian propaganda in this country.
 

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They should be negotiating a new European security architecture with Russia that mutually demilitarizes both sides, and creates buffer DMZs along with robust verification mechanisms. They also need to start banning certain classes of weapons (not easy here) such Intermediate range hypersonic nuclear missile. The number of hypersonic tactical missiles should also be limited. Future weapons such as nuclear powered cruise missiles, Lasers and nuclear doomsday torpedo's should also be tabled for discussion in addition to ABMs. Russia has already expressed a desire to deescalate the arms race, but the US and NATO were not willing to discuss and now we are at war.
By security architecture you are talking about after Ukraine ceding its eastern portion to Russia right?
 

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I don't claim to be a military genius. Nonetheless it should be obvious enforcement
of sanctions on energy exports alone should bring down Putin. Putin cannot
threaten EU with nuclear attacks if EU and Biden refuse to buy his fossil
fuel. But given Biden's desperation in finding substitute for a dinky amount
of Russian oil import and EU's helplessness military build up is better
than no response.





I think more than a few Republicans are supportive of applying oil sanctions for real,
aren't they?



I agree that imposing stricter sanctions in energy would be helpful. Whether it would tip the scales i am not sure. It might provoke a harsher response from Russia and you cannot guarantee that the oil and ng would not flow to China and others. but I agree with you.

The US imports a very small portion of its energy. The problem is that the US and the NATO countries for the most part are democracies and the bigger issue is whether any government could stay in power if the cost of energy which is already sky high doubled again. As i have said before leadership involves balancing multiple interest and leaders of democratic counties cannot ignore the will of the electorate. Simplistic answers and platitudes is easy for armchair quarterbacks but not necessarily viable in the real world.
 

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By security architecture you are talking about after Ukraine ceding its eastern portion to Russia right?
That would not have been necessary if they stuck too their agreement with Minsk 2, but now that a war has been launched they lose Donbass and probably statehood.
 

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Really? Russia attacked Ukraine because NATO wouldn't talk deescalation?
I didn't even think its possible to fall so deeply into Russian propaganda in this country.
So you think it has nothing to do with NATO? Why is NATO arming Ukraine then? So why do you think Putin attacked? He saw the poorest county in Europe and just and just had to have it? There were probably several reasons but NATO encroachment was a big reason.
 

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NATO is now 'Fortress Europe". Ukraine is now the buffer between Europe and a war hungry 3rd world country with a maniac for a president.
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That would not have been necessary if they stuck too their agreement with Minsk 2, but now that a war has been launched they lose Donbass and probably statehood.
So you idea is capitulation. How is the weather these days in Moscow?
 

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So you idea is capitulation. How is the weather these days in Moscow?
When there is massive power asymmetry, then capitulation is your only option. Agree to terms, maybe get some concessions then when the emergency is over you can start pushing the envelope. The only other option is fight a war, lose, thousands dead, country destroyed and then total surrender and loss of statehood, culture etc. So does door #1 or #2 look preferable to you?
 

toguy5252

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When there is massive power asymmetry, then capitulation is your only option. Agree to terms, maybe get some concessions then when the emergency is over you can start pushing the envelope. The only other option is fight a war, lose, thousands dead, country destroyed and then total surrender and loss of statehood, culture etc. So does door #1 or #2 look preferable to you?
You don't reward invaders. Not a difficult concept.
 
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