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Most US parents won't have kids get H1N1 flu shots

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Most parents won't have kids get H1N1 flu shots, study finds
A national survey suggests parents are confused about the risks of the virus and its vaccine.
By Melissa Healy
September 25, 2009


Germ-spreading schoolchildren are expected to be the focus of a massive U.S. vaccination campaign against the novel H1N1 flu.

But if their parents are hearing the rallying cry to have their kids vaccinated, they're not buying it, says a new national survey.

In a poll of 1,678 U.S. parents conducted by the University of Michigan's C.S. Mott Children's Hospital, 40% said they would get their children immunized against the H1N1 virus -- even as 54% indicated they would get their kids vaccinated against regular seasonal flu.

Among those who said they do not intend to have their kids vaccinated against H1N1, almost half -- 46% -- indicated they're not worried about their children becoming ill with the pandemic virus. Twenty percent said they do not believe the H1N1 flu is a serious disease.

There were differences along racial and ethnic lines in parents' responses, which were collected Aug. 13 to Aug. 31. More than half of Latino parents said they would bring their kids to get vaccinated against H1N1. Among white parents, 38% said they would do so. African American parents were the least inclined to vaccinate: 30% said they planned to do so.

About half of the parents who said they'd pass on the H1N1 flu shot for their kids expressed concern about possible side effects of the vaccine.

The chatter about seasonal flu and novel H1N1 flu, and the differences in their relative virulence, has certainly confused parents, the survey suggests. Half of respondents said they believe that, for children, seasonal and H1N1 flu pose roughly equivalent risks.

"That perception may not match the actual risks," Dr. Matthew Davis, the poll director, said in a statement. Davis is a University of Michigan professor of pediatrics and internal medicine.

The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention has said that though serious complications of seasonal flu appear to spare most kids and strike the elderly and very young most heavily, the novel H1N1 flu appears to hit children and young adults hardest.

Not surprisingly, parents who believe that the H1N1 flu will be worse for children were most likely to say they will have their own children vaccinated.

In a news release accompanying the poll results, Davis said that public health officials wishing to maximize vaccination rates among schoolchildren need to communicate clearly to their parents that kids are at relatively greater risk of becoming seriously ill with the novel flu strain if they get it.

melissa.healy@latimes.com

Copyright © 2009, The Los Angeles Times
 

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Most US parents won't have kids get H1N1 flu shots
I hate to say it but there are a lot of very stupid people in this world.

One not infrequently meets parents who don't want to vacinate their children against Measles, Whooping Cough, Diphtheria, Typhoid etc. . . . even Polio! Often they will say this is because of mercury in the vacines even though this hasn't been true for years! How such idots live with themselves after their child dies or is horribly injured by one of these diseases is beyond me!
 

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Let the parents win a Darwin Award for their children.

If you are too stupid to protect your kids, or seriously believe that it is all a conspiracy you really should remove as much of your genetic material as possible from this earth.
 

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I've heard it proposed, and find it entirely probable to believe, that because we have done such a good job of vaccination in the West, many twenty or thirty something parents behave this way because they have never seen or heard from a close relative the ravages that can be caused by such diseases.
Hence, to them it is all like some old wife's tail and nothing horrific will ever happen to their child.
 

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I've heard it proposed, and find it entirely probable to believe, that because we have done such a good job of vaccination in the West, many twenty or thirty something parents behave this way because they have never seen or heard from a close relative the ravages that can be caused by such diseases.
Hence, to them it is all like some old wife's tail and nothing horrific will ever happen to their child.
That's actually a really good point...

Out of sight, out of mind is one of the biggest reasons people don't act on things.

However I have read a fair amount on both sides & I think that I may elect Not to vaccinate for the swine flu.

Not for conspiracy reasons either... I just think that vaccinations in general are useful tools in some extreme situations, but while there is lots of speculation... there is zero evidence that this is a big enough deal to overcome the risks involved with the potential side effects of most vaccines & the additives, like adjudvicants, preservatives, etc Yes including mercury as a previous example...

I do find it really disconcerting that the manufacturers of these drugs are being given blanket immunity from lawsuits.... That kind of protection may be what's needed from these companies to commit to making the stuff but with the doors wide open for abuse of the privilege & human nature being what it is it does wonders for my lack of faith in the product....
 

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There was a news item on 680 news earlier this week that noted people that were vaccinated against the regular flu bug last year are twice as likely to get H1N1.

That's pretty scarey :eek:

Medical authorities are recommending people get their shot for H1N1 first and then return for their regular flu shot....
 

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I couldn't say whether the parents have reason to fear the vaccine, but I'll bet there's more herd behaviour than informed decison-making in those numbers. If just a few unvaccinated kids die, you'll see the herd stampeding to doctors' offices with cries of, "The government shoulda done something about this earlier. Why are the vaccine stocks so low?"
 

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I hate to say it but there are a lot of very stupid people in this world.

One not infrequently meets parents who don't want to vacinate their children against Measles, Whooping Cough, Diphtheria, Typhoid etc. . . . even Polio! Often they will say this is because of mercury in the vacines even though this hasn't been true for years! How such idots live with themselves after their child dies or is horribly injured by one of these diseases is beyond me!
Yeah, but to be fair, I haven't heard of kids dying of polio much lately.
 

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I hate to say it but there are a lot of very stupid people in this world.

One not infrequently meets parents who don't want to vacinate their children against Measles, Whooping Cough, Diphtheria, Typhoid etc. . . . even Polio! Often they will say this is because of mercury in the vacines even though this hasn't been true for years! How such idots live with themselves after their child dies or is horribly injured by one of these diseases is beyond me!
How about this doctor who is an expert on infectous diseases, do you think he is also a very stupid person for not allowing his kids to be vaccinated with the H1N1 vaccine?


Doctor Admits Vaccine Is More Deadly Than Swine Flu Itself & Will Not Give It To His Kids :

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WJoCDqVXgRI
 
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Aardvark154 said:
I hate to say it but there are a lot of very stupid people in this world.
How on earth can you compare the Flu shot with vaccines for Measles, Whooping Cough, Diphtheria, Typhoid & Polio!



There is NO PROOF that a flu shot actually prevents the flu! I know LOTS of people who get a flu shot, and then end up getting the flu anyway! **rolls eyes**

And then you have the audacity to call me a bad parent???? BITE ME!
 

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How about this doctor who is an expert on infectous diseases, do you think he is also a very stupid person for not allowing his kids to be vaccinated with the H1N1 vaccine?


Doctor Admits Vaccine Is More Deadly Than Swine Flu Itself & Will Not Give It To His Kids :

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WJoCDqVXgRI
One can always find a couple of scientists or physicans or indeed experts in any field who disagree with the majority. Sometimes they turn out to be correct, more generaly they do not.

There is at least one scientist who does not believe that HIV causes AIDS, does that mean that we should all start practicing unsafe sex? I would certainly hope not.
 

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And then you have the audacity to call me a bad parent???? BITE ME!
I was speaking more of the whole phenomenon of parents failing to vaccinate children, particularly against routinely fatal diseases. If you choose to take offense I'm sorry that you do. Do I believe that vaccination of those at risk of negative outcomes if they get certain diseases is wise, you bet I do.
 

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No one has ever properly said that getting a flu shot protects you 100% from getting the flu. The regular flu shot will only protect you from the 3 or 4 most expected strains for that year as predicted by the medical health people earlier in the year. You still can catch the other 8 or 9, or even catch the ones targeted, but the odds of getting caught by the targeted group is way less.

That's the point of the shot.
 

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Yeah, but to be fair, I haven't heard of kids dying of polio much lately.
No, due to the nature of the disease and the global eradication effort you aren't likely to.

However let one contagious person from one of the four countries where Poliomyelitis is still endemic get off the airplane in Canada or the U.S. and go swiming in a pool with a bunch of unvacinated children and believe me, we will all very likely hear about it.
 

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No, due to the nature of the disease and the global eradication effort you aren't likely to.

However let one contagious person from one of the four countries where Poliomyelitis is still endemic get off the airplane in Canada or the U.S. and go swiming in a pool with a bunch of unvacinated children and believe me, we will all very likely hear about it.

...... and then you'll see a real stink when their loved one are put in sanatariums. Most people living today don't remember those times.
 
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