More Royal caca!

I'd much rather hear about that reasonably sane royal couple than the Kardashians or which celeb was at what Toronto bar last night.
 
I understand that you and many others favour heriditary positions over democratic elections. That is your right. I think otherwise, I think it is an affront to fundamental human rights and common sense. ...

How cute. Dan is trying to pretend that the Royals have any impact on government in Canada or even the UK.

The real question is whether you'd want a hereditary media figure or one appointed by the latest teen craze (or more realistically who cares)?
 
How cute. Dan is trying to pretend that the Royals have any impact on government in Canada or even the UK.

The real question is whether you'd want a hereditary media figure or one appointed by the latest teen craze (or more realistically who cares)?

Is that what you think is happening in Germany?
 
What I love are that two of the people who are constantly trashing on the Monarchy are also two of the people who frequently trash on the United States. More than a bit of irony eh?

Aardie, low blow.

My posting history doesn't suggest that I'm a blanket critic of the USA. Unless you have an issue with my op that President Obama is not taking the Putin threat as seriously as he should. I have family Stateside one of whom is a Nam Vet, these days American Thanksgiving is becoming more of a tradition than our own. Unless you are taking my lust for Michelle Bachmann to heart.
 
Is that what you think is happening in Germany?
I know that there is a lot of interest in the British Royal Family in Germany and not particularly surprisingly in the Wittelsbachs as well (at least in Bavaria), and perhaps rather more surprisingly in the Hapsburgs and Hohenzollerns.
 
Aardie, low blow.

My posting history doesn't suggest that I'm a blanket critic of the USA. Unless you have an issue with my op that President Obama is not taking the Putin threat as seriously as he should. I have family Stateside one of whom is a Nam Vet, these days American Thanksgiving is becoming more of a tradition than our own. Unless you are taking my lust for Michelle Bachmann to heart.
Mea culpa.
 
Is that what you think is happening in Germany?

Yep. I'm sure German media waste time reporting on David Hasslehoff or whoever is popular there.


No idea if http://www.thelocal.de/ is a mainstream news paper but their front page has reports on a rock/paper/scissors match during a soccer game, a waiter beating the beer carrying record, and place names that make people giggle.
 
It is excruciatingly simple. Elect a head of state as the majority of countries do. Is that so hard to imagine?

No, that's what we would/might do if we were starting from scratch.

Right now, we have a an established constitutional monarchy, the power of which has been gradually pruned down, over some very hard fought centuries.

Look what happened when the Soviet Union broke up. The Uzbekistanis thought they were finally going to get someone in power who would have their interests as his primary concern. What they got was Islam Karimov. (Not to mention what the Russians themselves got)

The Cambodians had high hopes, but drew Pol Pot.

When it seems that a change of power might be possible, all manner of warlords and other wankers rise to the surface.

You want change just for the sake of it. You haven't thought through how the constitutional changes might be done -- and once constitutional change is in the wind, what else might our political leaders take the opportunity to force on us? You haven't thought through how the new power system would leave people, nor how the change itself could be done without violence. Or are you of the brigade that just want the change to happen, and just too bad if it leads to civil war.

What we have is not bad (actually, it's the envy of most of the rest of the world). It doesn't do us any harm. It doesn't cost us very much. It's very stable.

You have certainty that the change would leave us better off. -- but history is not with you.
 
No, that's what we would/might do if we were starting from scratch.

Right now, we have a an established constitutional monarchy, the power of which has been gradually pruned down, over some very hard fought centuries.

Look what happened when the Soviet Union broke up. The Uzbekistanis thought they were finally going to get someone in power who would have their interests as his primary concern. What they got was Islam Karimov. (Not to mention what the Russians themselves got)

The Cambodians had high hopes, but drew Pol Pot.

When it seems that a change of power might be possible, all manner of warlords and other wankers rise to the surface.

You want change just for the sake of it. You haven't thought through how the constitutional changes might be done -- and once constitutional change is in the wind, what else might our political leaders take the opportunity to force on us? You haven't thought through how the new power system would leave people, nor how the change itself could be done without violence. Or are you of the brigade that just want the change to happen, and just too bad if it leads to civil war.

What we have is not bad (actually, it's the envy of most of the rest of the world). It doesn't do us any harm. It doesn't cost us very much. It's very stable.

You have certainty that the change would leave us better off. -- but history is not with you.

I am quite certain Canada could abolish the monarchy without ending up with Pol Pot in charge. LOL

Here is a list of countries that succeeded in abolishing the monarchy: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_o...transition_to_republican_system_of_government
 
I am quite certain Canada could abolish the monarchy without ending up with Pol Pot in charge.
No, only V.V. Putin. By the way, you are aware of the Hatfield Provision? If so you should be rooting wildly for the current government.
 
I am quite certain Canada could abolish the monarchy without ending up with Pol Pot in charge. LOL

Here is a list of countries that succeeded in abolishing the monarchy: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_o...transition_to_republican_system_of_government

What I really admire is countries that abolish their monarchy and then have the common sense and courage to un-abolish it. For instance, The English abolished their monarchy and killed their king in the 1640's and let their country be governed by a left wing maniac whose politically correct policies almost ruined the country. 15 years later, they smartened up and invited their royalty back. You really have to respect that, don't you?
 
What I really admire is countries that abolish their monarchy and then have the common sense and courage to un-abolish it. For instance, The English abolished their monarchy and killed their king in the 1640's and let their country be governed by a left wing maniac whose politically correct policies almost ruined the country. 15 years later, they smartened up and invited their royalty back. You really have to respect that, don't you?
I know I do, my family owes a fair debt of gratitude to Charles II.
 
What I really admire is countries that abolish their monarchy and then have the common sense and courage to un-abolish it. For instance, The English abolished their monarchy and killed their king in the 1640's and let their country be governed by a left wing maniac whose politically correct policies almost ruined the country. 15 years later, they smartened up and invited their royalty back. You really have to respect that, don't you?

No I don't much care about what happened in the 17th century. Neither should you.