More Canada bashing

Funny thing with some U.S. hospitals is they don't "do everything". In South Florida for instance some hospitals don't have emergency rooms at all. Some have no maternity wards at all. One can't just say, where is the nearest hospital to where I live in case I need to rush there without checking out what that hospital does and does not do. Water broke - better know that the nearest hospital to you doen't do births. Break your arm? Better know that the hospital down the street has no E.R. Strange way to run a hospital no?

Having visited hospitals in the U.S. and here, there are pros and cons. Why can't hospitals all be clean, neat, things like on that show "Grey's Anatomy" + have hot nurses and movie star doctors LOL.

My European cleaning lady just said she visited a friend in York Region General hospital (Major Mac & Yonge area of Richmond Hill) and it was, in her words, "A filthy, dirty, disgusting place full of disease, not fit for animals" and her friend went in with one problem and caught two more while there.

I've visited patients at that hospital. The staff there I always found helpful, kind and nice. The corridors are depressing though. The Florida hospitals I've been to seemed cleaner. but maybe because they were newer, etc. I don't know. many rich Canadians elect to go to the U.S. for surgery...including Belinda Stronach (who said what she wanted done wasn't offered in Canada).
 
This may sound a bit cold hearted, but with the head trauma Richardson sustained, she should have gotten immediate care. Head injuries should all be treated as serious, taking a nap after having one is a very bad idea.
 
The Dr. that wrote this report did not know if the hospital she was at had a CT scanner or not, and then says that if she had a CT scan she would have been diagnosed sooner. Thank you Captain Obvious (I'm talking about the doctor). Canada has approximately 1/10 the population as the States, so our health care facilities are scaled to what is relevant to our population size.

It is tragic that Natasha Richardson passed away, and that there were probably many things in the pipeline that could have gone better, but it is premature for the doctor to bash our entire healthcare system because a CT scanner which he's not sure was available at the nearest trauma centre.

It really bugs me when doctors from the States comment on Canada's healthcare system as if they know. If he did, he wouldn't make such uninformed statements. Either way, I think the average American citizen would prefer our system of healthcare to what they currently have.
 
333conan said:
This may sound a bit cold hearted, but with the head trauma Richardson sustained, she should have gotten immediate care. Head injuries should all be treated as serious, taking a nap after having one is a very bad idea.

Tragic choices and lost time
Article From Saturday's Globe and Mail

March 27, 2009 at 10:13 PM EDT

Natasha Richardson, 45, signed up for a lesson at Mont Tremblant on a day that promised a skier's paradise. She struck her head in a fall around noon. The radio exchanges obtained by The Globe and Mail show that by sunset the damage to her brain was probably irreversible.

12:43 p.m.: On the hill
"Priority 3, Tremblant resort … (inaudible) … female, 42 years old, 17 Bravo 1 … 12:43, assigned 12:44."
Code 17 means a fall. Bravo 1, or B-1, means possibly dangerous. Priority 3 is the second most urgent emergency call from the public. It requires medics to get to the scene immediately and place their sirens on if they're held up at an intersection.

1 p.m.
"10-17. Uhh, we're still waiting for the patient."
10-17 is code for arrival at the site.

1:11 p.m.
"There's a (ski) patroller who just went by, who tells me it's a 10-3. Did you get a call about that?"
10-3 means cancelled job.

2:59 p.m.: At the hotel
"Priority 1, Mont Tremblant. We're talking about the side, facing the south side of The Shack. It will be at the Hotel Quintessence, Suite No. 11. For a female, 41 years old. 17 Delta 1."
17-Delta-1, or 17-D-1, refers to a fall, now upgraded to "dangerous."

3:55 p.m.: In the ambulance
"This is vehicle 112 do you hear me well?"
"I hear you 5 out of 5."
"I'm arriving with a female in her 40s, presently at verbal (responds to verbal stimulus but otherwise fades out), disoriented 0 out of 4. It's following a story, a ski fall that happened at noon. Soon afterward she presents signs of confusion, a concussion. Glasgow at 12 … vital signs: 124 on 86, breathing 100 per cent with O2, cardiac sequence at 70. We'll be there in about eight minutes."
The Glasgow coma scale measures degrees of consciousness after a traumatic brain injury. A rating of 12 is consistent with a moderate brain injury. Vital signs of 124 over 86 refers to her blood pressure. The cardiac sequence is her pulse. She is being given oxygen so her oxygen level is 100 per cent.

5:55 p.m.: On the way to Montreal
"Priority 2, Sainte Agathe … Crash room 2, destination Sacré Coeur. With oxygen, 10-48 and monitor."
A priority 2 call is the most urgent call from a hospital (as opposed to from the general public, which is Priority 1). 10-48 means an escort. The monitor refers to a heart monitor.

She was brain dead by the time she got to Sacre Coeur. She was transferred to Lenox Hill basically to die.
 
The thing I keep asking about this is, "Even if Quebec had an Air Ambulance, would they have called it out simply for someone who wiped out on the bunny-hill at Tremblant?"

If I wiped out and hit my head but was still up and running at the cottage, would they send the helicopter or tell me to go to Emergency?
 
themexi said:
The only superiority that Canadian Medicine enjoys is that our poor are guaranteed treatment while American poor may go without.

Fuck the poor. I want what I can afford.... NOT what's doled out..... Private healthcare it is.

Even going into debt is slightly preferable to waiting in line all the time when Urgent treatment is needed & getting tired overworked help weighed down by government budgeting.

I seriously think that only taxpayers & former taxpayers (Elderly that contributed) should get the free healthcare..... Let the rest of the useless eaters make way for the productive ASAP. The idea tat some welfare case or a convict gets a place in line before me for Any reason is insulting.

The last line in your post is a little arrogant. When people are in distress or dealing with traumas, their socio-ecomomic status should not really matter. That woman refused treatment initially after the accident. Such is life.