Moonwaiting trafficking wtf?

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poopypants

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Has this been posted on here yet? I've used them dozens of times, fuck. I use barbie house, I wonder if they are involved. I have asked the girls before and most say they were treated ok. Maybe they have to say that.

Their site is still up?

 
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The first thing co-conspirators do, when being interrogated, is to try and deal their way out of trouble. They will give up names, phone numbers, addresses, businesses, any detail that could help reduce charges. I think laying low, as a client of these sketchy agencies, would be prudent advice (I never partook).
 
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RichardG2020

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Holy shit - this is terrible. I feel awful for all of the victims.

I’ve never used Moonwaiting or similar Asian-centric agencies/spas.

However, we as clients of this industry have to be extra vigilant of who we are seeing and which agencies we choose to frequent. We need to ensure that we are not contributing to this problem.
 

Phil C. McNasty

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Thats the last time I'm using an Asian agency.
I have a feeling all the other agencies use trafficked girls as well, and that disgusts me! :(
 
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TOboy95

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I feel filthy for using them... I wish I could apologize to all the ladies I saw there, and I hope they are doing better/ somewhere away from this.

I realise I was part of the problem, and I truly wish I could help be part of the solution to help the women affected by these scum.
 

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Six people are now facing charges and officers seized more than $4 million from accounts operated by one of the accused. Approximately $3 million in illegal cannabis was also seized along with 34 firearms and ammunition.
Police said so far they have located seven victims, who have been taken to safe locations and been put in touch with victim support services. Investigators said 38-year-old Markham resident Di Luan, who also goes by the names of Andy Luan, Vincent Luan, Chia Hao Cheng, and Jia Hoa Zheng, faces nine charges, including trafficking in persons, material benefit from trafficking in persons, laundering proceeds of crime, fraud over $5,000, and careless storage of a firearm.
 

Samranchoi

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If MW can get busted, any agency can face the same but when there are also multiple weapons and millions in illegal drugs involved, that is a whole different thing than just running an agency providing only sexual services. And could be the reason why he was targeted as opposed to other agencies.

The women I have talked to who worked for them and other Asian agencies have the freedom to do what they want and have no one watching them, unlike the perception of what we see as trafficking. They come to Canada to make money and lots of it and then go back to China or Korea. Andy can be prick but also a good guy from what I have heard. I feel fortunate to have stopped seeing them for over a year.
 

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If MW can get busted, any agency can face the same but when there are also multiple weapons and millions in illegal drugs involved, that is a whole different thing than just running an agency providing only sexual services. And could be the reason why he was targeted as opposed to other agencies.

The women I have talked to who worked for them and other Asian agencies have the freedom to do what they want and have no one watching them, unlike the perception of what we see as trafficking. They come to Canada to make money and lots of it and then go back to China or Korea. Andy can be prick but also a good guy from what I have heard. I feel fortunate to have stopped seeing them for over a year.
LE most likely has enough evidence and “victims “ willing to talk or even sing in this case which is not true for other agencies.
 

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If MW can get busted, any agency can face the same but when there are also multiple weapons and millions in illegal drugs involved, that is a whole different thing than just running an agency providing only sexual services. And could be the reason why he was targeted as opposed to other agencies.

The women I have talked to who worked for them and other Asian agencies have the freedom to do what they want and have no one watching them, unlike the perception of what we see as trafficking. They come to Canada to make money and lots of it and then go back to China or Korea. Andy can be prick but also a good guy from what I have heard. I feel fortunate to have stopped seeing them for over a year.
Same here, been using them for the last 6 years or so, every girl i spoke to there did not come acrss as being under duress.
 
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mandrill

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If MW can get busted, any agency can face the same but when there are also multiple weapons and millions in illegal drugs involved, that is a whole different thing than just running an agency providing only sexual services. And could be the reason why he was targeted as opposed to other agencies.

The women I have talked to who worked for them and other Asian agencies have the freedom to do what they want and have no one watching them, unlike the perception of what we see as trafficking. They come to Canada to make money and lots of it and then go back to China or Korea. Andy can be prick but also a good guy from what I have heard. I feel fortunate to have stopped seeing them for over a year.
You realize that what they tell you and what is actually happening might be two different things, huh?

Never dealt with MW, but dealt with some others in the early 2000's.
 

Samranchoi

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LE most likely has enough evidence and “victims “ willing to talk or even sing in this case which is not true for other agencies.
Yes, but “talk or sing” about what. Being forced to perform sexual acts or is the main reason LE becoming involved related to the drug and firearm issues. If it’s only about sex, then other agencies should also be worried, IMO.

I remember what happened 6 years ago when another Asian agency was busted and shut down. Andy was apparently in hiding for fear of being arrested
 
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Phil C. McNasty

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I hope they give the trafficked girls Canadian citizenship, and perhaps even witness protection program in return for testimony
 
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I hope they give the trafficked girls Canadian citizenship, and perhaps even witness protection program in return for testimony
You know that that's a double edged sword, right?
 
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Samranchoi

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You realize that what they tell you and what is actually happening might be two different things, huh?

Never dealt with MW, but dealt with some others in the early 2000's.
Yes I realize that and have gotten to know any very closely. You have to understand their mindset and why they have come to Canada in the first place. I have no reason to dispute what many have told me. How many “trafficked” women do you know who make hundreds of thousands of dollars per year and have the freedom to go where they want. Not just what I have been told but what I have actually seen
 

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Yes I realize that and have gotten to know any very closely. You have to understand their mindset and why they have come to Canada in the first place. I have no reason to dispute what many have told me. How many “trafficked” women do you know who make hundreds of thousands of dollars per year and have the freedom to go where they want. Not just what I have been told but what I have actually seen
If you genuinely believe the only trafficked women in the sex trade are poor or don’t have the freedom to move as they please, you are sadly mistaken. There are many women in this industry who make hundreds of thousands who are under duress, but for the sake of clientele, their handlers and their money and/or situation they lie and paint a rosy photo. It does not necessarily correlate with some depiction of financial stability.

Try not to believe everything you are told or see, especially in Toronto. You have the most skewed image of this, rightfully so as paying clients. It can happen anywhere and to anyone, and it does unbeknownst to many.
 
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