Miers Withdraws

[Vietor]

Harriet Miers notified Pres. Bush of her request to have her nomination withdrawn last night and her request has now been "reluctantly accepted".

Speculation upon the next nomination?

 

[TOVisitor]

The straw that broke the camel's back is the Christofascist reaction to this statement of Miers in 1993:

The ongoing debate continues surrounding the attempt to once again criminalize abortions or to once and for all guarantee the freedom of the individual women's [sic] right to decide for herself whether she will have an abortion.

Want to uphold the law? You're outta here.

 

[Cardinal Fang]

Press release from CWA.

"Concerned Women of America, the nation's largest public policy women's organization, is calling for Harriet Miers withdrawal. As their press release states:

We believe that far better qualified candidates were overlooked and that Miss Miers' record fails to answer our questions about her qualifications and constitutional philosophy," said Jan LaRue, CWA's chief counsel.

In fact, we find several aspects troubling, particularly her views on abortion and a woman's 'self-determination,' quotas, feminism and the role of judges as social activists. We do not believe that our concerns will be satisfied during her hearing."

When Roberts was in the middle of his hearings and the Democrats were pounding him to find out his views on Abortion. The Conservatives jumped up and said that his views on Abortion and his faith have nothing to do with his ability to rule on issues of law. Miers shows up and all of the sudden the issue of Abortion and faith is made front and centre by the Conservatives by those who support her.

You can't help but laugh.

 

[TOVisitor]

"Concerned Women of America, the nation's largest public policy women's organization, is calling for Harriet Miers withdrawal. As their press release states:

We believe that far better qualified candidates were overlooked and that Miss Miers' record fails to answer our questions about her qualifications and constitutional philosophy," said Jan LaRue, CWA's chief counsel.

In fact, we find several aspects troubling, particularly her views on abortion and a woman's 'self-determination,' quotas, feminism and the role of judges as social activists. We do not believe that our concerns will be satisfied during her hearing."

When Roberts was in the middle of his hearings and the Democrats were pounding him to find out his views on Abortion. The Conservatives jumped up and said that his views on Abortion and his faith have nothing to do with his ability to rule on issues of law. Miers shows up and all of the sudden the issue of Abortion and faith is made front and centre by the Conservatives by those who support her.

You can't help but laugh.

What is the saying?

Consistency is that last refuge of the unimaginative and the hobgoglin of small minds.

The fracture in the Reublican party is only going to get larger if the Shrub nominates someone with a red meat background. It will expose, once and for all, how beholden he is to these nuts.

Moderates voted for him because he was thought to be strong on national security. With the disaster in Iraq, the bullshit color-coded terror alerts, and now the outing of a spy, the only true supporters he has left are the Fundies. And once he appoints someone to placate them, the moderates will move even further away.

The Plame outing indictments will speak truth to the lie that the Bush WH and the Republicans are strong on national security. I will be evident to everyone that they were willing to put their own station and power above the health and integrity of the nation. THe outing is just another in a long line of dirty tricks that have characterized the Republicans since Nixon. While soem dirty tricks may be cast as political harbdall, this one went much much too far.

The next few weeks have the makings of a seismic disaster for the Republican party: Frist under investigation, Delay indicted (BTW, he admitted to not reporting more money yesterday), Abramoff trial, new appointment for the SC, Rove, Libby, and maybe Cheney indicted ... who will W turn to for help?

He can't quit or call for some big money friends to bail him out, like he did every other time he got in trouble in his life.

I willl be buying extra popcorn to watch this go down.

 

[Vietor]

Actually, I think that she would have been able to defend herself well enough to survive the Judiciary Committee hearings. Her real problem was with the President's assertion of executive privilege over all of her actions as his counsel. There is a dearth of precedent defining this privilege; the first time it was asserted was by Ike back in the 50's. Bush could easily have been back in the Supreme Court on this issue at a time when everything else is seemingly problematic.

Or, this all could be a ploy to get a much more conservative judge nominated.

 

[Cardinal Fang]

Or, this all could be a ploy to get a much more conservative judge nominated.

Bingo.

 

[The Mugger]

Or, this all could be a ploy to get a much more conservative judge nominated.

Somehow I don't think so. This failure by Bush leaves him very much a lame duck. if there are indictments tomorrow he will be a dead duck.

The problem here is that movement conservatives have managed to push Bush around. Not one single Republican Senator is on record announcing that they would vote against Miers.

If this was a ploy, it was a very bad one because it gives the democrats a chance to point to movement conservatives like Ann Coultier and tell moderate American how out of step the Republicans are to their beliefs. A strategy the Conservatives on this board should understand since they used it so well to pigeon hole the entire Democratic Party as extreme left.

 

[Gyaos]

If find it odd she withdraws just before the indictments from the CIA leak case.

Bush Jr. needs her because he will be an unindicted co-conspirator along with the soon to resign Vice President, Dick Cheney, who current has the H5N1 virus on the left side of his inner colon, according to more top secret reports released by Judith Miller.

 

[onthebottom]

I'd look for someone just to the right of Bork - I think the Rs are itching for a fight on this and want to do it from the right. But I could be wrong, been wrong once on this issue so far.

OTB

 

[Asterix]

I'd look for someone just to the right of Bork - I think the Rs are itching for a fight on this and want to do it from the right. But I could be wrong, been wrong once on this issue so far.

OTB

Just to the right of Bork? You must be choking. George blew it with Miers, who as a supposed competent lawyer should have warned the president that the issue of her record as White House counsel would come up, since she had no other record of experience that the Senate could consider her by. Bush made a good choice with Roberts, though I don't agree with his politics, the man was obviously qualified. I don't think George can risk another mistake at this point in choosing someone that will create a firestorm. That, and I think he is pissed at the extreme right in his party at the moment and will go his own way, as he usually does.

 

[assoholic]

..I could be wrong but I think I read someplace when this womans cover was blown alot of people she dealt with in real bad places got whacked. She was a real big time agent. Thats why it's so serious, in a time of War as per Dubya, somebody close to him caused some intelligence operations to fbe compromised , and people died.
It could be called Treasonous, which calls for the death penalty.

 

[onthebottom]

Just to the right of Bork? You must be choking.

I'm thinking you meant joking, which I wasn't.

I think the right showed W where is support comes from, and it's conditional.

George blew it with Miers, who as a supposed competent lawyer should have warned the president that the issue of her record as White House counsel would come up, since she had no other record of experience that the Senate could consider her by.

Yeah, when Reid is on board but most Rs are not you know you miscalculated somehow.

Bush made a good choice with Roberts, though I don't agree with his politics, the man was obviously qualified. I don't think George can risk another mistake at this point in choosing someone that will create a firestorm. That, and I think he is pissed at the extreme right in his party at the moment and will go his own way, as he usually does.

He likes to go his own way, that is true, but I think he'll deliver for his base.

OTB

 

[Asterix]

I'm thinking you meant joking...

No. I meant choking. It's called a play on words. I don't think Bush can risk nominating someone controversial at this point, without there being a major battle. He clearly becomes annoyed when things don't go as planned, and I don't think he has the stomach for it now. I would hope he would appoint someone with serious judicial experience, who has also demonstrated their respect for previous rulings, and has a capacity to grow into the job, which I believe Roberts has. What got me about George promoting Miers is his assertion that she would never change. In the first place, why is that a plus, and in the second, what the hell did that even mean since no one knew a thing about her?

 

[Cardinal Fang]

In the first place, why is that a plus, and in the second, what the hell did that even mean since no one knew a thing about her?

I think he's trying to say "trust me, I know what I'm doing." Which scares the crap out of me and most of the rest of the world.

 

[Vietor]

I predict that the next nominee will be someone very similar to J. Roberts - a very well respected conservative jurist who is beyond reproach. Even with such credentials, she will have to face a much more challenging battle in the Senate.

 

[langeweile]

No. I meant choking. It's called a play on words. I don't think Bush can risk nominating someone controversial at this point, without there being a major battle.

I think Bush was nominating her trying to avoid a major battle. He was so concerned about the lefts reaction, that he forgot about his base.

Again it has been proven that you should stay true to yourself.

 

[Asterix]

I think Bush was nominating her trying to avoid a major battle. He was so concerned about the lefts reaction, that he forgot about his base.

Again it has been proven that you should stay true to yourself.

That's the point. He did stay true to himself. George nominated Miers, who had questionable capabilities to fill a Supreme Court post, seemingly out of loyalty to her, and without considering the potential fall-out from either side of the aisle. I don't think he can now risk appointing an ideologue, simply to appease the right wing of his party. He's in no position currently to take another hit to his administration.

 

[papasmerf]

She was cannon fodder.

Make some noise and see who shoots back. Thus you know what you are up aginst.

 

[Asterix]

She was cannon fodder.

Make some noise and see who shoots back. Thus you know what you are up aginst.

So if everybody shoots back that tells you what? She has her job back as White House counsel. If George was putting her up as cannon fodder, as you say, that's not a real smart way to treat your own lawyer.

 

[langeweile]

That's the point. He did stay true to himself. George nominated Miers, who had questionable capabilities to fill a Supreme Court post, seemingly out of loyalty to her, and without considering the potential fall-out from either side of the aisle. I don't think he can now risk appointing an ideologue, simply to appease the right wing of his party. He's in no position currently to take another hit to his administration.

If he would have been true to himself like you say...how did he come up with Robertson?
I check it off as a bad hire...happened to me before.