Massive Israeli Spying on the USA.....WHY?

WoodPeckr

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Israel is our supposed 'ally', and has had an inordinate amount of influence in US policy for years.
These video clips indicate that Isreal knows more about what's going on in the USA than clueless Dubya and Team 'w' put together!!!......:eek:

What is surprising is that Fox News came out with this expose.

Fox News - 911 The Israeli Connection

These are the videos AIPAC (American Israel Public Affairs Committee) lobbied FOX News to remove from their website. Since then,. AIPAC has found itself embroiled in yet another espionage case, this time involving an operative inside the very Pentagon office from which many of the now discredited claims abut Iraq's WMD.

FOX News threatened this website to force the removal of these videos, but they appear here at this outside website for those of you unaware that on 9-11, the largest foreign spy ring ever uncovered in the US was in the process of being rounded up, and that evidence linking these arrested Israeli spies to 9-11 has been classified by the US Government!

Dam! maybe I should hire
Israel to do my military intell !!!
 

Don

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WoodPeckr said:
What is surprising is that Fox News came out with this expose.
Because it is from Fox News, you know that it is completely biased, exaggerated or false, right? Or are you saying Fox News is a credible source of news???
 

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I don't doubt it.

I watched some of the video and it doesn't really come to any conclusions, but why should this come as a surprise to anyone? It's pretty commonly known that everyone spies on everyone as much as possible.

There's a quote in the video itself which explains it well:

"The Israelis are motivated by strong survival instincts which dictate every facet of their political and economic policies... It agressively collects military and industrial technoilogy and the U.S. is high priority target."

BTW as far as 9-11 goes, I heard that the US was warned by Israel and its own internal agencies about an attack right before 9-11, but the information wasn't or couldn't be acted on.

It's very cynical but it's not outside the realm of possibility that some sicko in Israeli intelligence decided to keep specific info about 9-11 from the americans so that an attack on US soil would happen and there would be more support of Israel and less for the Arabs as a result. However I don't believe that anyone could have foreseen the magnitude of 9-11. Even the terrorists didn't think the towers would actually fall.

All is all I'd have to say HO HUM to the opening salvo in this thread.
 

WoodPeckr

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Don said:
Because it is from Fox News, you know that it is completely biased, exaggerated or false, right? Or are you saying Fox News is a credible source of news???
Faux News serves as the GOP mouthpiece putting out news the way Team 'w' wants/likes it put out.....all united, on the same page, all hunky-dory, etc. Israel is a big ally to the neocons and Team 'w', so it just seemed strange Faux news would repeatedly air stories that puts Israel in a bad light. Sure all nations spy on each other but this appears above and beyond what most would expect. Hundreds of Israeli agents have been arrested/deported so far, far more than other nations friendly or foe.
 
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WoodPeckr said:
Faux News serves as the GOP mouthpiece putting out news the way Team 'w' wants/likes it put out.....all united, on the same page, all hunky-dory, etc. Israel is a big ally to the neocons and Team 'w', so it just seemed strange Faux news would repeatedly air stories that puts Israel in a bad light. Sure all nations spy on each other but this appears above and beyond what most would expect. Hundreds of Israeli agents have been arrested/deported so far, far more than other nations friendly or foe.
So is the "GOP mouthpiece" Faux News breaking it's contractual obligation to the "Team 'w' neocons by airing discrepancies in the "Isreal/Team 'w' neocon cabal"?

And is this schism just another irony piled upon the the ever growing refuse dump of past ironies, or is it more akin to another real Israel/Team 'w' neocon cabal conspiracy?

That is the question. Why do you think Woodpeckr?
 
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israel and the US have a complicated relationship. Remember when israel attacked the USS Liberty at the onset of the 1967 6day war? The US refused to help it's own ship under seige. A soviet ship came to help.

The US "held" the more talkative survivors of the attack so that they could not make details public.

Y did the US cover-up a war crime against it's own?

Coincidently the ban on arms sales to israel was over in 68 and by 71 israel was spending $600 million a year on american-made palestinian killing machinery.

There are always squablles but the love affair lives on.
 

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The US is hanging on to old allies. Israel was the only ally they had in that region for the longest time. The rest of the countries had ties to the Soviets. And even now you see Hamas make a visit to Russia to explore the old ties to mother Russia. Old habits die hard.
 

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WoodPeckr said:
... Hundreds of Israeli agents have been arrested/deported so far, far more than other nations friendly or foe.
Maybe they're just not as good as everyone believes.
 

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basketcase said:
Maybe they're just not as good as everyone believes.
Those caught, may just be the tip of the iceberg. There are probably many more that haven't been discovered as yet. Most Americans easily accept Israelis as friendlies, myself included, without question and never would imagine them as spies in the first place.
 
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wow. that's like one spouse hiring a PI to spy on the other and then when his cover is blown he pays the price.
 
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Let's also not forget the french-made, british-made, italian-made etc "palestinian killing machinery" provided to the Zionist killers.

Apparently alot of countries believed in providing "palestinian killing machinery" to the Zionist killers in Israel.

I would also note the Russian-made, Chinese-made, french-made etc "Jewish killing machinery" provided to the Arab nations and palestinians.

Apparently alot of countries believed in providing "Jewish killing machinery" to the Arab and palestinian killers in the Mid East.

What is your point besides selective perception?
 
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