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Timberwolf

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I just do not get it. I have been to strip clubs but never the parlours. But I have represented guys and gals in that arena. What I have gleaned in these areas is that you will:

1) Pay 3x the price of an sp;
2) Never know what you are getting;
3) Probably nothing;
4) Put up with incredible bullshit;
5) More often than not walk away with having payed tons of money for very little service.

Frankly, I don't understand how you can be satisfied with a hand release. I can do that for myself.

So my question is, why do you guys do this? What is the attraction? These chicks are playing you for idiots and then there is the LE factor. Is it living dangerously that is the attraction? For the life of me I don't understand why you just do not get an sp ( who advertises on the web, and whose pictures and reviews you have seen ) and enjoy what is close to a sure thing for you. And know the cost up front.

I notice that the mp and sc sections are full. I was at a stag the other night and all went to a strip club, blew thousands, and I mean thousands of dollars ( the groom dumped $2500 ) and not one of the guys got laid!!!!!!!!!!!! I still do not get it.

Can anyone explain??????
 
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gramage

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well for me, my own hang-ups have me a little hesitant to see an SP. fortunately for me I managed to fit an MP loophole into my moral dilemma. SC's I never spend more then 100 bucks (usually around 70) and I go to see the show and get just a couple of dances to get a little warmed up.
 

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I totally agree with you Timberwolf, in strip clubs and mp's you don't get anything!
Some teasing and playing around are = nothing.
People are spending money, a lot of money and getting nothing.
For me, spending money on a girl = I need to get her into my/her bed!
I don't need to sped money for some smiles and touching here and there - I pay and I need to get the real thing!

David p.
 

Timberwolf

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Exactly; why spend money, and lots of it ( these chicks are not stupid ) and get nothing but teased?????
 

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Timberwolf said:
Exactly; why spend money, and lots of it ( these chicks are not stupid ) and get nothing but teased?????
I think you miss the point....getting teased IS the point.

It's not for everyone, but why knock something just because you don't understand or enjoy it. Everyone's different.
 

Fred Zed

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? Impaired judgement

Timberwolf: I would agree that looking for major extras in strip clubs is a different story [ a bit silly imo, although I have done it] but remember that strip clubs serve alcohol and a few drinks after a hard day at work can impair the judgement a bit. :)

MPs are a totally different story. For one thing prices are not 3x that of SPs ! A good massage can be had for as low as $80. At the top spas in Toronto prices average around $160 for a bodyslide.

There is no doubt that as far women go there is a broader choice in MPs than SPs and it's much easier to book an appointment.

Ofcourse, MPs are not for those seeking "a sure thing" but the experience can be just as fulfilling as seeing an SP, and once in a while you can get
very good treatment from a MPA once you become a trusted regular.
 

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I agree with Timberwolf about MPs.

Personally, if I want to get some serious one-on-one action, I'll use the SP option. I prefer to do that because I can see the SP in the comfort and safety of my home where I can relax and enjoy the experience. For the time and service I get from an SP, I pay less than most MP would charge (based on the reviews I've read here).

SCs are a different matter for me. I don't go there to get laid. I go to SCs for the same kind of reason that many people go to the neighbourhood pub. I hang out with friends, have a few (or more) drinks, and - as a bonus - appreciate the scenery.

It's fun to sit with my buddies and discuss the different women who are on display. If one of them appeals to me, I like to get a few dances, but the main reason I go is for the social component.

When you get to be a regular (or consistent) visitor to an SC, many of the regular dancers will get to know you and you can even socialize with them when the customers are not biting. This makes the SC a different and enjoyable experience that is not available from a one-on-one encounter.

Zog.
 
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Timberwolf said:
I notice that the mp and sc sections are full. I was at a stag the other night and all went to a strip club, blew thousands, and I mean thousands of dollars ( the groom dumped $2500 ) and not one of the guys got laid!!!!!!!!!!!! I still do not get it.

Can anyone explain?????? [/B]
What I dont get is how anybody is stupid enough to blow thousands on a few strippers. For that kind of money you could have one hell of a good time at an MP or get a few high priced SPs, and still have enough left over a limo and dinner.
Dont knock it till you ve tried it

Baron
 

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Re: Re: Message parlours and strip clubs.

The Baron said:


What I dont get is how anybody is stupid enough to blow thousands on a few strippers. For that kind of money you could have one hell of a good time at an MP or get a few high priced SPs, and still have enough left over a limo and dinner.
Baron
Some of the men are married and technically paying a dancer does not constitute having an affair.
 

torex

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I have to agree with Fred,The Baron and Meesh

I see strip joints for what they are! I enjoy taking in a hockey or football game,couple of brew and watching beautiful ladies prance around in their Sunday best!:p

I was at a stag the other night and all went to a strip club, blew thousands, and I mean thousands of dollars ( the groom dumped $2500 ) and not one of the guys got laid!!!!!!!!!!!! I still do not get it.

Can anyone explain??????
I know it was a stag but I don't unerstand how you guys could spend so much cash at a strip joint knowing the other services we have in this city! If you guys where looking to get laid a stripjoint wasnt a very good choice!!
 

chris123

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Release depends on the MPA. Also going in you know pretty much how things will end up! I'd rather spend $$ in a MP with a good MPA than spend the same at a stripjoint with no guarantees. Main reason I hardly go anymore, actually. Never tried SP.
 

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I thought about the trade off between SP's and MP's and the answer seemed fairly obvious to me . Most Sp's do outcall only which involves a lot of extra hassle if you are talking about the same city in which you live . Mp's are convenient....in and out (so to speak ) in an hour with no hassles .

While travelling ( I'm very lucky to have to go to Montreal often ) it's SP's hands down but while in TO it's MPs 95% of the time . I have tried one incall and it kind of put me off it .

Even up I would choose SP's .

SC 's don't understand the attraction.....maybe once every two years is good . Always feel like I need to take a shower after due to the sleeze factor at most clubs and I very rarely have a dance .
 
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Some of us go to strip clubs not looking to get laid....

Some of us have wives that have given us permission to go to strip clubs .....
After not being able to defend myself very well with Gala earlier this week I'm just biting my tongue on this one .
 

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......upside the head on a few occasions for the money spent on dancers or on an mpa when my clear preference is for the services of an SP!
Opportunity is certainly a governing factor, but in retrospect, I would rather have kept my testosterone in check, saved the money spent and then see a fave SP at a more opportunistic time.

The technicality you mention Fred, re some wives accepting their husband's visits to SC's as not being unfaithful, would only apply in some relationships, not generally.
Shit, my wife sees just looking at another woman as being unfaithful, predatory, et al!!
One of the reasons she's now on her own!

Willywants (the service of a good SP every time!)
 

Goober Mcfly

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kiarra said:
It is really simple to figure out.

SC=beer, buddies, T&A and hopefully maybe a little flirting to make you feel young again, not really cheating(in some eyes)find the right girl then worth the money.

MP=beautiful women, exotic and erotic enviroment, teasing and little pleasing, many choices, not really cheating(in some eyes), find the right girl then worth the money.

SP=more action, more intimate enviroment, one on one, close encounters, FS, more fun, if you find the right girl then worth the money.

Seems simple enough, it is all about what you feel for and what you want to spend. To each his/her own!


Kiarra
Marriage=none of the above, with the same combined cost.
 

Timberwolf

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Thanks for all the input. Much appreciated and it has certainly clarified things for me.

Fred: You are right about the impaired judgement! The guys on the stag - after more than a few belts - were throwing around $100's like they were $5's. I was stunned and shocked. I guess this is what prompted my quere. I still disagree with you about the cost though, at least if you are going for the f/s from a mpa. From my second hand experience if you push for the full deal, $$$$$ is involved. Much more than you would pay an sp.
And how much does it cost to become a trusted regular? I think quite a bit.

Meesh: I don't mean to knock it; just did not understand it. Your point is well taken. But I am the kind of guy who loves to get teased and then get the payoff, not go off high and dry.

We all have our different expectations and agendas. Clearly to each his own.
 

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Oh the money I've wasted

Ok, mid 80's when I was underage, the SC gave me something to go home to have choke the chicken

Then, the early 90's came around, and the services offered were incredible (VIP rooms = rub and tug)

That soon stopped and I kept spending $$$ on those damn ladies. I'd leave $300 lighter, easily. And still would have to go home to finish the deed.

Mid-90's, I got around the country travelling while I worked. Gave an SP a call to my hotel and I was hooked...no games, no muss, no fuss. A little awkward the first time, but things became professional with me.

Let's face it, SC, MP, SP...we all just want a little fireworks added to our night. So I would ask, spend $300 to buy fireworks and look at them in the package when I can spend $300 with the opportunity to set them off.
 

chris123

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Re: Oh the money I've wasted

Originally posted by kenyd we all just want a little fireworks added to our night. So I would ask, spend $300 to buy fireworks and look at them in the package when I can spend $300 with the opportunity to set them off. [/B]
Very well put.
 

Timberwolf

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Chris and Kenyd

How I feel exactly.

Kenyd: You made a remark that triggered me. About being under age. My son, who was under age, stole his Aunts' credit card and got into a sc. Blew $400. The kid was 17 at the time and looked 14. Don't these places card people? Clearly taking advantage of an innocent. And I have a difficult time believing that they thought he had a legitimate credit card. Some one earlier in this thread talked about the sleeze factor. I agree.
 

Don

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Never been to a MP but go to SC's quite a bit at times (1/week). The reason I still go after experiencing SP's is several.

The good dancers really know how to tease!

Being able to see the goods up close, chat before you make a choice and also having a choice among several ladies right there.

When you are in the mood for a little play (dance), you can get it right away.

The thrill of seeing how far you can take it

If the dance sucks you can stop at $20 (or $40 for places with VIP fees like Pro and Zanzibar)!
 
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