Marijuana - legal in Canada ?

Damien

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I've been hearing about this for quite a while now, and some people saying that Marijuana is legal in Canada, is this true or not? beacuse if it is, I'm spending the next entire summer up there lol
 

drlove

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No. The Canadian government is/was considering legalizing the drug, according to media reports. It doesn't seem likely, as such a move would not be received well by the United States, Canada's largest trading partner.

IMO, rather than risk its ire, Canada will most likely reconsider any prospective legislation in this regard. However, in some cases, permits have been granted to those who are terminally ill and use the drug for medicinal purposes.
 

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There's an ongoing court case right now which is under appeal which, if held up, would make possessing <30g of pot legal. However the police have been instructed to lay charges as before.

Also, there is talk that Jean Chretien's Liberal government may decriminalize marijuana, meaning (and I am not a lawyer) that possession would be subject to a fine only, but no criminal record.

Or am I wrong about that?
 

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drlove said:
If marijuana is decriminalized, why the fine??
HA! I was right

cite: http://www.ucsbdailynexus.com/news/2003/4148.html

On Dec 9, Justice Minister Martin Cauchon announced Canada could do away with criminal penalties for the possession of small amounts of marijuana for personal use as early as this spring. This statement came days before the release of a special House of Commons report recommending Parliament to decriminalize the use and cultivation of marijuana for personal use.

This announcement is consistent with a previous study by the Canadian Senate's Special Committee on Illegal Drugs that recommended Parliament regulate the use and distribution of marijuana for medical and recreational purposes for people over 16 years old. Under decriminalization, persons found with small amounts of the drug would receive an administrative fine, but would not be subject to arrest or a criminal record.
 

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Just one more reason

to head North young man!

A dubie, my favorite SP and after, a Cuban. Too bad the weather sucks or Canada would be the perfect place! Like Sydney without the 24 hours in a Qantas jet.

OTB
 

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This weekend's cover story was on this issue. A judge recently threw a case out of court siting that there are no laws in Canada regarding possession of Marijuana under 30 grams. Apparently there was a case in July 2000 in which an appeal required the government to ammend the law within one year, the government did not ammend the law and the law fell off the books.

They are recommending that anyone who has a current possession charge less than 30 grams to go get your case thrown out of court now, anyone who has already been convicted has 30 days from conviction to appeal.

One more step in the right direction....
 
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onthebottom said:
to head North young man!

Too bad the weather sucks or Canada would be the perfect place! Like Sydney without the 24 hours in a Qantas jet.

OTB
The Weather is no worse in Toronto than it is in New York (Or for that matter, the North East, Mid West etc..) ....What, do you think we Canadians live in igloos?


Trent
 

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drlove said:
If marijuana is decriminalized, why the fine??
If they decriminalize posession of small quantities of marijuana it will not make it legal. It would still be an offense to have it for personal use (without a medical waiver) but it would not be a crime.

This is already the case with such offenses as speeding, parking in a no-parking zone, and other minor offenses. You get fined but no criminal record.

If you are dealing the stuff, you could still be arrested and tried for selling a controlled substance and this would still be a crime as well as an offense.

Personally, I don't see how marijuana is any worse than alcohol. In fact, there are fewer socially repugnant side effects to being stoned than there are to being drunk. When was the last time you read about a guy smoking a joint and beating his wife?

Sure, it is possible to abuse weed, just as it is possible to abuse beer, wine, liquor, and windex. However, those that will abuse marijuana don't have any trouble getting it anyway. The vast majority who will use it responsibly (socially for fun) should have legal access for their own use.

The government could then control the quality, quantity, and even get a tax kickback!

Let's have Jean Chretien's face on the pack too!

Zog.
 

CyberGoth

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not quite yet, we have some court decisions and some political support for decriminalisation, but thats not the same as "legal" be careful and thoughtful.

most of all, dont be stupid enough to smoke a joint in public, that will definatley get you into trouble.
 

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Philanthropist said:


The Weather is no worse in Toronto than it is in New York (Or for that matter, the North East, Mid West etc..) ....What, do you think we Canadians live in igloos?


Trent
No offence mate, I think the weather sucks in NY as well. Just my opinion. I grew up on Minneapolis, which makes YYZ look like a tropical beach.

OTB
 

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GODFATHER said:
...Alcohol is not spit out into the air, therefore, I won't injest or drink your second hand "drink".
Don't come drinking with me, then...
 

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Goober,
I couldn't go drinking with you just because I'd be laughing so hard that red wine would be coming out my nose.
Q.
 
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onthebottom said:
I grew up on Minneapolis, which makes YYZ look like a tropical beach.

OTB
Touche! You got that right....lol

No offence taken, just jealous of anyone who lives in the Big Apple! I won't sing the song, but I love NY!
 

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GODFATHER said:
Regardless, for those of you who think it is no more harmful than alcohol, I have an argument for you. Alcohol is not spit out into the air, therefore, I won't injest or drink your second hand "drink". With you lighting up, I will inhale second hand smoke, the same way I would if you lit up a cig. I don't care what you do with your personal life, and I agree that for most purposes, anyone should be able to light up a joint, but I don't (never have, probably never will) smoke weed, and don't want to be walking around or sitting in a bar as you light up. What's your argument for that? Oh, and I aint leaving neither.
I'm not asking to be allowed to smoke around you or in any public place, I'm asking to be allowed the choice to smoke it in the privacy of my own home. I'm not going to argue with you about smoking, I'm against smoking in public places as well. Smoking weed should follow the same laws for smoking tobacco. Don't turn this into an argument about smoking in public, this is about the right to smoke weed in private as well.

I'm wondering how the decriminalization will affect smoking in your apartment. Currently my lease has a clause where I can be evicted for commiting any illegal activity on the premises. I've even had my super call me and warn me (someone complained about a smell in the hall). I'm simply smoking a joint to relax from a stressful day in the privacy of my own home, I'm not harming anyone, I certainly don't deserve to be evicted for it. So for now I have to cover my smoking with a lot of incense, filters etc. Hopefully with decriminalization I can smoke in my own home and not get evicted, since I wouldn't be charged with an illegal activity it wouldn't fall under that clause of the lease.
 

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Sorry Guy :(

TravellingGuy said:
Hopefully with decriminalization I can smoke in my own home and not get evicted, since I wouldn't be charged with an illegal activity it wouldn't fall under that clause of the lease.
Sorry, you don't get off that easy. Decriminalising something is not the same as making it legal. It's no longer a CRIME but it's still against the law. Same as speeding...still illegal but no criminal reccord. Good thing you can't speed in your home.

Keep burning the incense!

Zog.
 

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Fox TV ads

I'm sure you have seen the current ads running on the Fox network about the evils of weed use . They show 2 teenage boys who are totally stoned in one of their fathers den . One guy tells the other that his sister is hot and the other pulls out a loaded pistol from his father's desk and accidentily shoots the other .

This accident is of course all blamed on the dope which "alters your sense of reality ". The ads are sponsered by some anti-drug group who I guess must be well funded since the spots seem to run frequently .

The point made is almost so amateurish as to be laughable . It just totally ignores the obvious question of what a loaded hand gun was doing in an unlocked desk drawer or whether the same type of accident would be any more or less likely to happen with with Johnny Walker as opposed to Mary Jane .
 
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