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Maple Leaf products
- Thread starter gentle_lover
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I bought a pack of hot dogs and some bacon last week. Listeriosis is already in the atmosphere and probably contaminates most of what you buy anyway. I'm not a child, elderly or pregnant and my immune system is sound and I plan to cook the bacon and hot dogs before I eat them.
More importantly, I believe ML is doing everything they can to mitigate the risk.
Ultimately, I don't feel I'm at risk.
More importantly, I believe ML is doing everything they can to mitigate the risk.
Ultimately, I don't feel I'm at risk.
gentle_lover said:How do you guys feel about buying Maple Leaf products after the incident?
Do you guys have confident in them now?
I have no problem with ML or any other company. The problem is Listerious can occur in any processed meat, and is apparently quite common. Anyone who has a weak immune system should not eat process meats, especially the elderly. This, apparently a known fact. So what do they feed the elderly in homes, process meat sandwiches. It is convenient and inexpensive. Therefore, while it is sad about what happened, I am not sure ML should be held totally accountable. Who knows how many other deaths have occured?
hungry said:I have no problem with ML or any other company. The problem is Listerious can occur in any processed meat, and is apparently quite common. Anyone who has a weak immune system should not eat process meats, especially the elderly. This, apparently a known fact. So what do they feed the elderly in homes, process meat sandwiches. It is convenient and inexpensive. Therefore, while it is sad about what happened, I am not sure ML should be held totally accountable. Who knows how many other deaths have occured?
I believe they are expected to have a zero tolerance on the machines, precisely because of the prevalence in the environment.
Perhaps we should demand they test the meat, not just test the machines.
It is like saying, hey, we designed this great airplane and built it, and checked each part carefully. Since we haven't found anything amiss, no need for a test flight. Pile in!
Real nice...rama putri said:Do you think I feel sorry? Actually I do because most of the dead aren't the blissfully ignorant I refer to, but seniors at homes where the food was bought for and served to them. The rest I could care less about.
Ok so how many people under 60 years old died ? Zero ? How many people in total ? 20 or something ?
How many many people have died in Ontario hospitals of c-difficile in the last 3 years ? I think it's 500 hundred and counting. Same age group.
So does that mean you brain surgeons are never going to a hospital again ?
How many many people have died in Ontario hospitals of c-difficile in the last 3 years ? I think it's 500 hundred and counting. Same age group.
So does that mean you brain surgeons are never going to a hospital again ?
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OnTheWayOut
I remember a Mexican resturant chain in the US that had salmonella scare or something back in the 80s or 90s, a few people got sick. I had been trying to eat there but the lines were always too long. When they reopened after the scare we were able to walk right in and got great service and food. Figured that was the safest time as the inspectors were all over the place. Probably a similar time now for ML.
rubmeister100 said:No they didn't.
The problem was a big slicing machine that was not fully disassembled and cleaned properly. When it was taken apart properly the filth was grossly evident.
This is the type of complacency that good for nothing employees are directly responsible for. And exactly the reason that most processed meats gross me out.
I have no doubt that Maple Leaf will have the cleanest baloney in the country for the next while. Until some meathead employee gets lazy again.
Not at all unlike the Walkerton water deaths... all coming back to some lazy dog fucker humans not realizing how much responsibility their shitty jobs have on the safety of fellow humans.
What I do blame Maple Leaf Foods for though is not pastuerizing their meats in the packages before they leave the factory in a hot water bath to kill off any last bugs taht might have gotten packed in there. It is STRICTLY a cost saving measure as all the cold cuts they ship to the US MUST be processed that way. The USDA insists on this for food safety. In Canada, the baloney industry has fought this for $$$ saving!
Actually the did follow all the manufactures recomended procedures for cleaning the machinery. The machinery is in use world wide and this is the first instance that has been reported.( ok some countries don't report these things). The machinery was not designed to be broken down to that level for cleaning. It was something that nobody thought about or realised that it could happen. The federal meat inspectors on site did not require the disassembly of the equipment for cleaning as they also follow the manufactures recomendations for such things.
The manufacturer has changed the recomendations and is changing the design of teh machinery to make such cleaning easier. Maple leaf foods has changed their procedures so that this particular problem does not show up again.
I eat and will continue to eat their products along with others but it is a personal choice I made after looking at the facts. If you don't want to eat it thats your choice enjoy your meals with piece of mind.
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OnTheWayOut
landscaper said:enjoy your meals with piece of mind.
OMG! If I found a piece of brain in my meal I'd hurl!!
