MANDATORY vaccination policy likely on its way, says Trudeau Health Minister

[AndrewX]

Trudeau's Health Minister Jean-Yves Duclos said on Friday that Canada's provinces are likely to take up mandatory vaccination policies to deal with COVID-19.

The minister insisted that vaccinations remain the only way out of the pandemic.

"What we see now is that our health care system in Canada is fragile, our people are tired, and the only way that we know to get through COVID-19, this variant and any future variant, is through vaccination," said the health minister.

"Fifty per cent of hospitalizations now, in Quebec, are due to people not having been vaccinated...That's a burden on health care workers, a burden on society which is very difficult to bear and for many people difficult to understand.

"That's why I'm signaling this is a conversation which I believe provinces and territories, in support with the federal government, will want to have over the next weeks and months."

Duclos said that conversations on mandatory vaccination have not yet started, but that they would soon due to what has been observed internationally.

As pointed out by True North's Andrew Lawton, the federal minister is calling for what is essentially an "Austria-style vaccine mandate."

Those who refuse the jab in Austria already face $4,000 fines every three months.

Experts are not unanimous on vaccinations being the only way out of the pandemic. According to Dr. Harvey Risch, "the only way we will get out of this whole COVID pandemic is having a large amount of natural immunity throughout the population."

"It's not going to happen from vaccine immunity because vaccine immunity lasts only a few months and it's too narrow. It doesn't get all the variants. The natural immunity from having had mild or asymptomatic COVID is much stronger and that's what's going to fight off the variants," he told FOX News.

BREAKING: MANDATORY vaccination policy likely on its way, says Trudeau Health Minister

The minister insisted that vaccinations remain the only way out of the pandemic.

thepostmillennial.com

 

[Brill]

It might help if the vaccines were easier to get. Booking them is difficult and often the lineup at a distant pop up clinic is up to 6 hours wait in crap weather.

 

[silentkisser]

Trudeau's Health Minister Jean-Yves Duclos said on Friday that Canada's provinces are likely to take up mandatory vaccination policies to deal with COVID-19.

The minister insisted that vaccinations remain the only way out of the pandemic.

"What we see now is that our health care system in Canada is fragile, our people are tired, and the only way that we know to get through COVID-19, this variant and any future variant, is through vaccination," said the health minister.

"Fifty per cent of hospitalizations now, in Quebec, are due to people not having been vaccinated...That's a burden on health care workers, a burden on society which is very difficult to bear and for many people difficult to understand.

"That's why I'm signaling this is a conversation which I believe provinces and territories, in support with the federal government, will want to have over the next weeks and months."

Duclos said that conversations on mandatory vaccination have not yet started, but that they would soon due to what has been observed internationally.

As pointed out by True North's Andrew Lawton, the federal minister is calling for what is essentially an "Austria-style vaccine mandate."

Those who refuse the jab in Austria already face $4,000 fines every three months.

Experts are not unanimous on vaccinations being the only way out of the pandemic. According to Dr. Harvey Risch, "the only way we will get out of this whole COVID pandemic is having a large amount of natural immunity throughout the population."

"It's not going to happen from vaccine immunity because vaccine immunity lasts only a few months and it's too narrow. It doesn't get all the variants. The natural immunity from having had mild or asymptomatic COVID is much stronger and that's what's going to fight off the variants," he told FOX News.

BREAKING: MANDATORY vaccination policy likely on its way, says Trudeau Health Minister

The minister insisted that vaccinations remain the only way out of the pandemic.

thepostmillennial.com

So....what is it, a Federal vaccine mandate or a provincial one? The headline implies it will be federal, but the first sentence is talking about provinces and territories.

The article is right, not all experts agree with vaccinations being the best way forward, but they are a tiny minority. I've read studies that show the natural immunity wanes fairly quickly, that's why people have gotten covid twice!

Finally, the Post Millennial and Andrew Lawton are jokes...

 

[GameBoy27]

Unvaccinated people are putting a huge strain on our healthcare system and prolonging restrictions and lockdowns. It's time everyone gets vaccinated. The sooner that happens, the sooner we get back to normal.

 

[ShockNAwww]

Well, if the Post Millenial said it, you can bet it’s worth checking another source.

https://www.cbc.ca/amp/1.6307398

Some provinces, like Quebec, have already communicated that it is considering an expansion to its current provincial vaccine mandates. The expansion would apply to (gasp) liquor stores and cannabis stores.

Other provinces, like Alberta, are (gasp) not considering an expansion to provincial vaccine mandates at this time.

At this point, clearly some provinces have figured out that current mandates aren’t enough to incentivize the meat heads into making the right decision, so they’ll keep adding restricted places to the provincial lists.

Except ALbERTa.

 

[Leimonis]

Experts are not unanimous on vaccinations being the only way out of the pandemic. According to Dr. Harvey Risch, "the only way we will get out of this whole COVID pandemic is having a large amount of natural immunity throughout the population."

"It's not going to happen from vaccine immunity because vaccine immunity lasts only a few months and it's too narrow. It doesn't get all the variants. The natural immunity from having had mild or asymptomatic COVID is much stronger and that's what's going to fight off the variants," he told FOX News.

In 2020, Risch was called out by 24 other Yale School of Public Health doctors for promoting the use of the drug hydroxychloroquine — commonly used to treat malaria and rheumatoid arthritis — for people with active COVID infections.

“We write with grave concern that too many are being distracted by the ardent advocacy of our Yale colleague, Dr. Harvey Risch, to promote the assertion that hydroxychloroquine when given with antibiotics is effective in treating COVID-19, in particular as an early therapeutic intervention for the disease,” Yale doctors wrote in the Aug. 2020 open letter.

“He is not an expert in infectious disease epidemiology and he has not been swayed by the body of scientific evidence from rigorously conducted clinical trials, which refute the plausibility of his belief and arguments.”

 

[poker]

I am Pro Vax.

I think anti-Vaxxers may be partially mentally ill (note the political correctness)

However…. I am against mandatory vaccines. You still have the right to be an idiot.

 

[Mr.Know-It-All]

As the saying goes nowadays, the difference between conspiracy theories and the truth is about 6 months.

 

[Scopez]

Unvaccinated people are putting a huge strain on our healthcare system and prolonging restrictions and lockdowns. It's time everyone gets vaccinated. The sooner that happens, the sooner we get back to normal.

I never understood the logic behind this... how exactly? and why are people in support of government clearly encouraging the division in society, when the numbers clearly speak for themselves ?

In the ICU
Unvaccinated 119
Fully Vaccinated 106

In Hospital but not in the ICU
Unvaccinated 441
Fully Vaccinated 1327

These numbers are the reports of people with covid across all ontario hospitals, and not DUE to covid. This war on the unvaccinated the politicians and public are encouraging is not supported by the stats we can clearly see, or logic.

 

[Jenesis]

And how are they going to do this. You basically have to be vaccinated to go anywhere.

Are army trucks going to show up, hold people down to get the shot? Can’t go to SuperStore for food now unless vaccinated so people can starve? I don’t think so.

O’toole had it right the other day. We need to be realistic and understand a small percentage are just not going to get vaccinated and we need to start living with that reality instead of trying to change something that will not change. You are not going to get 100% vaccination and COVID is not going away even if we do.

 

[poker]

As the saying goes nowadays, the difference between conspiracy theories and the truth is about 6 months.

Then I shall set sail for the great ice wall at the edge of our our flat earth! I shall be the hero the people need. I shall rise rise up, and save you all from yourselves.

 

[canada-man]

Unlike some countries, immunization is not mandatory in Canada; it cannot be made mandatory because of the Canadian Constitution.

1. Immunization in Canada - Canadian National Report on Immunization, 1996 - CCDR Volume 26S4 May 1997 (archive.org)

 

[canada-man]

Reminder: Canada's Health Minister

Jean-Yves Duclos

has absolutely ZERO training or experience in ethics, human rights, history, science or medicine. ZERO. All of his formal training is in economics. Economics.

 

[NotADcotor]

Then I shall set sail for the great ice wall at the edge of our our flat earth! I shall be the hero the people need. I shall rise rise up, and save you all from yourselves.

Don't forget to bring some Temptations kitty treats for the cats on the earth's edge knocking everything over the side.

 

[NotADcotor]

Unlike some countries, immunization is not mandatory in Canada; it cannot be made mandatory because of the Canadian Constitution.

1. Immunization in Canada - Canadian National Report on Immunization, 1996 - CCDR Volume 26S4 May 1997 (archive.org)

You keep bringing this up
Probably because you read this "Unlike some countries, immunization is not mandatory in Canada; it cannot be made mandatory because of the Canadian Constitution." and went aha and stopped reading. Later in the same paragraph it says

It must be emphasized that, in these three provinces, exceptions are permitted for medical or religious grounds and reasons of conscience; legislation and regulations must not be interpreted to imply compulsory immunization.

One could read the above statement as saying it isn't constitutional because you need exceptions for things like medical or religious grounds.
Which would explain why you have to quote a national report from 1996 instead of say... I donno...
refering to the actual Constitution! I am guessing you will find nothing there that bans mandated vaccinations with exceptions. Also those same protections isn't stopping Quebec from putting in anti Hijab rules. Others pointed out that these things can be overruled via emergency powers.
Last year Alberta actually banned themselves from doing mandatory vaccinations [easily reversed no doubt] they wouldn't do this if it was unconstitutional.
Also i am guessing the government has access to better legal minds than you.

Now based on all this, I trust we will never see you bring this bullocks up again right.
Oh who am I kidding. You don't care about reality or truth.

Reminder: Canada's Health Minister

Jean-Yves Duclos

has absolutely ZERO training or experience in ethics, human rights, history, science or medicine. ZERO. All of his formal training is in economics. Economics.

I doubt there is a single person ever who had formal training in all those fields.
Economics is at it's core a study of choices so show some respect lad
These people don't operate alone.

However again, I am sure you and your ilk will keep bringing this up because reality and truth mean nothing to you and your ilk.


Also if you are reading something and you think you have an Aha moment. Ask yourself. Is it a Hor-Aha moment, because only those count.

Hor-Aha - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

or at least

A-ha - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

 

[ShockNAwww]

As the saying goes nowadays, the difference between conspiracy theories and the truth is about 6 months.

Ahhh yes.

We all remember when Bill Gates and his plot to implant nano-technology via vaccines was revealed for the indisputable truth that it was.

I feel like sometimes the conspiracy theory set forget that for any plot they get partially correct, there are countless others that are flat-out wrong.

One certifiably incorrect prediction undermines their credibility a lot more than any partially right prediction.

When they cast a net as wide as they do, they’re bound to be right by accident sometimes. Q Anon is a great example of how this works. For every 1 thing Q got sort of right, there were 100 Watkins or whoever got wrong. But, the acolytes ate it up.

It’s a group of people that take credit for all the memes about body autonomy, endless vaccines and/or mandates, and point to the booster shot or our re-entry to stage-2 as vindication for their truth saying.

They also misremember, and have sources that very transparently manipulate, usually by misleading or omission, what does and doesn’t happen.

So, where very few of us who consume credible/reputable MSM ever heard definitive reporting with quotes like “Once we get to herd immunity, the pandemic will be over,” or “Everyone with the vaccine will be fully protected, and transmission won’t happen,” or “Booster shots will never ever be required,” or “We’re certain China hasn’t manipulated any of the truth behind the origins on COVID-19,” the crazies want to take credit when those ‘truths’ as they think some see them don’t pan out.

Maybe one day it’ll turn out that this group gets as much right as they do wrong (or better), but for now, our adrenochrome guzzling, reptilian, Hebrew overlords remain unchecked because of the whole “they bonkers” thing.

They’re fringey even among the fringe. TERB showcases this.

 

[ShockNAwww]

First-dose vaccinations quadruple in Quebec ahead of restrictions at liquor and cannabis stores

The number of appointments for the first dose of a COVID-19 vaccine has risen sharply this week in Quebec.

montreal.ctvnews.ca

 

[canada-man]

Ahhh yes.

We all remember when Bill Gates and his plot to implant nano-technology via vaccines was revealed for the indisputable truth that it was.

I feel like sometimes the conspiracy theory set forget that for any plot they get partially correct, there are countless others that are flat-out wrong.

One certifiably incorrect prediction undermines their credibility a lot more than any partially right prediction.

When they cast a net as wide as they do, they’re bound to be right by accident sometimes. Q Anon is a great example of how this works. For every 1 thing Q got sort of right, there were 100 Watkins or whoever got wrong. But, the acolytes ate it up.

It’s a group of people that take credit for all the memes about body autonomy, endless vaccines and/or mandates, and point to the booster shot or our re-entry to stage-2 as vindication for their truth saying.

They also misremember, and have sources that very transparently manipulate, usually by misleading or omission, what does and doesn’t happen.

So, where very few of us who consume credible/reputable MSM ever heard definitive reporting with quotes like “Once we get to herd immunity, the pandemic will be over,” or “Everyone with the vaccine will be fully protected, and transmission won’t happen,” or “Booster shots will never ever be required,” or “We’re certain China hasn’t manipulated any of the truth behind the origins on COVID-19,” the crazies want to take credit when those ‘truths’ as they think some see them don’t pan out.

Maybe one day it’ll turn out that this group gets as much right as they do wrong (or better), but for now, our adrenochrome guzzling, reptilian, Hebrew overlords remain unchecked because of the whole “they bonkers” thing.

They’re fringey even among the fringe. TERB showcases this.

New research has found that constantly worrying about the Wuhan coronavirus (COVID-19) pandemic can impair a person’s cognitive abilities.

This study was conducted by researchers from McGill University in Montreal, Canada. They worked with other researchers from the Montreal Neurological Institute and Hospital to survey over 1,500 Americans between April and June 2020 to gauge how concerned they were about the coronavirus pandemic and how this fear may have affected their thinking.

 

[lomotil]

What is the definition of “mandatory vaccinations” in a democracy like Canada which is composed of a loose arrangement of often not so cooperative province with a very weak central government? As expected Kenney said that he will not support “mandatory vaccinations” although he did encourage all eligible Albertans to get vaccinated. Mandatory vaccinations work in military police states like China, Cuba or N. Korea were individuals live in real fear of being tortured and killed. To have a real lockdown or for the Federal Government to mandate vaccines, LE or the military would have to be used in Canada which is an almost impossibility and verging on pure fantasy. The antivaxxers movement is small, destructive and annoying but like Covid-19, not going away anytime soon and they are further emboldened because third and fourth shots…are being advocated and that Omicron is hospitalizing , second and third dose recipients in increasing numbers as well as the non vaccinated.
The insanity and bullshit has now gone off in several planes and tangents which is not being helped by the domestic and geopolitical cockamaming bullshit.

 

[K Douglas]

Unvaccinated people are putting a huge strain on our healthcare system and prolonging restrictions and lockdowns. It's time everyone gets vaccinated. The sooner that happens, the sooner we get back to normal.

No they are not stop lying.