Making a Porn site

[Hyru]

Please, lets keep it civil in here. A simple discussion is all I ask

So Im sure everyone has had the thought of running their own porn site, something like bangbros or realitykings. From what I understand, theres two ways this can be done.

1) You pay for the material from some other site and then host it and charge for it.

2) You create your own material (bring in the girls, do the filming, etc).

Now, I know the majority of this industry is based out of the states (primarily L.A I believe) and the majority of the "amateur" porn models come from "modeling" agencies like LA Direct: http://www.ladirectmodels.com/female.php

So, how much do you think sites like bangbros.com pay each of these girls? I would guess about $500 or so per scene, but a friend of mine was thinking something much higher.

I wonder how the industry is in Toronto?

Apart from the html and costs of running a site + cost of girls, hows the income? Is it more of just a "hobby" for the site owners?

Would love to hear your responses.

 

[bangcamaro]

It'd be tough man.
You'd need to find a way to drive people to the site and make them sign up and pay a price per month. It's so competitive now, and you can subscribe to top quality sites for so cheap nowadays that to just cover your costs, you'd have to charge your members a pretty high price... which would be maybe 3 or 4 times as much compared to competitors...

Maybe, if you could advertise somewhere and find true amateur girls who you could pay slightly less, like $300 bucks for a scene...
But there's also other costs like lighting, camera, cameraman (unless you're filming it yourself), very high cost for server to support all the bandwidth of people downloading large file size movies...

But honestly, in the beginning you'd probably start off in the red because you would really have to advertise and get your site out there just to get a few subscriptions... unless you had like a niche or unique site, it will just get lost in the mix...

 

[Hyru]

ya, definitely would have to be something unique and definitely would have to start off with the "cheaper" amateur girls. I think theres also the cost of legal fees and papers as well...
But damn, 190 BILLION DOLLARS!

Bangbros has to be making decent $... But then again, theyre known pretty well. I wonder how hard it would be to work something up out of Toronto

 

[northern_bear]

How much money & how much effort?

Are you willing to put in a 60 hour "work" week? If you are, I'm sure you can make enough to pay the rent.

But you're not going to get rich any time soon. You'll probably make more money sticking with your legitimate job, whatever that is.

And if you are thinking of running this part time, on the side, then forget it. There's no way you can manage all the things you'd need to take care of, and still make money, if you're only putting part-time effort into it.

Then again, if you're just looking at it as a way of pursuing your hobby, this could be a good way of hobbying, and making some of the money you spend back.

How much do girls charge? I've encountered numerous SPs who are willing to be filmed for an extra $100.

If your standards aren't too high, you could probably get girls for under $200-$300 per scene. $500 per scene probably buys you something fairly decent.

But the real costs involved are not the girls. For every $1 you spend on the actresses, you would proably have to spend $5-$50 on production. At least if you want to make something worth watching.

 

[fuji]

Not so many people pay for pictures and movies these days, the money is in the live sites, webcam girls, 1:1 stuff. The only way to make money on pictures and movies is to have such a massive number of visitors that you can make a profit off just a few cents from each.

 

[JessiMae]

Please, lets keep it civil in here. A simple discussion is all I ask

So Im sure everyone has had the thought of running their own porn site, something like bangbros or realitykings. From what I understand, theres two ways this can be done.

1) You pay for the material from some other site and then host it and charge for it.

2) You create your own material (bring in the girls, do the filming, etc).

Now, I know the majority of this industry is based out of the states (primarily L.A I believe) and the majority of the "amateur" porn models come from "modeling" agencies like LA Direct: http://www.ladirectmodels.com/female.php

So, how much do you think sites like bangbros.com pay each of these girls? I would guess about $500 or so per scene, but a friend of mine was thinking something much higher.

I wonder how the industry is in Toronto?

Apart from the html and costs of running a site + cost of girls, hows the income? Is it more of just a "hobby" for the site owners?

Would love to hear your responses.

I am answering because I have been involved in this part of the industry. I have made a few porns.

Even if you are buying content it is very expensive. Take a good look at the contracts. But IMO this might be the way to start because it gets you a track record.

With modelling agencies they are most likely going to want references from well known sources and examples of your work. You would be surprised how many guys are looking to do "private collections" or who are doing this thinking it will be fun and they get to bang dozens of hot girls. Most agencies and independent women will not do this type of work because they know for the most part these types of requests are a waste of time.

If you want to do live work your best bet is not contacting an agency in LA but rather posting an ad on CL adult gigs, that way you are getting local girls who you can build a reputation with. If you just pop out of no where and go to an agency in LA chances are they will ignore you. Build yourself a reputation (and record of solid sales) and then you might have a better chance.

Personally (and I am no porn star) I only go out to work for people who can provide references and a proven track record of sales. This, to me, shows they are serious about working. I once made the mistake of working for a guy who was an newbie to the industry and lets just say I will never do that again. Horrible. He had no idea what he was doing. Furthermore if his site actually got published he could have landed himself in serious legal trouble. He did not have the proper documents nor did he know that you have to take a picture of the model with her ID (two pieces, held up beside face). And to top it all off he did not have a clue on how to position a camera, follow a story line or take stills. He was pretty upset when I informed him his first shoot with another lady was pretty much junk because he did not properly photograph her ID, get copies of her blood work, or have her sign proper legal documents.

 

[cypherpunk]

Unless you're willing to go to war for it, you'd have to do it on the cheap to be successful. You can get girls for $500 or less, good looking ones to boot, but those are poor street girls that pimps try to recruit.

 

[canucklehead]

I have many clients in Toronto that are in the porn business including one the second largest dating/porn site in the world 6 million individual visits a month ..... go to porno alley / liberty village area ..... it is all porn.
It is alot of money but most ... even the big ones buy their content. there was the biggest internet porn company in the world running out of 77 mowat ..... money is ok... but u r talking 24/7 ..support staff, csr's , etc etc ...all 24/7

 

[Hyru]

What am I looking for in liberty village?

 

[21pro]

the porn content is easy enough to develop... but, the optimization of increasing your potential payoff of the risk of investment is what sucks. quite frankly, it's expensive and also the reason why so much of the porn, even high quality porn out there is FREE.

it's more lucrative to mow your neighbour's lawn and film while you fuck his wife.

 

[cynalan]

Why join a pay site when there are numerous free options out there, e.g. redtube. com, youporn.com, etc?

 

[LazMan]

Another (overlooked) factor is the cost of the technical side of the business.

Content may be key; but there's alot of behind the scenes 'stuff' to take care of, too.

You are pitting your security against the collective sex-drive of every teenage boy with a computer... Every breach in your security costs you money, and if public, can damage your rep.

There are also bandwidth needs/costs to consider - if you're going to host your own site, you'll need to be prepared for the traffic; which, hopefully, would be alot. Streaming video (live or canned) is a big bandwidth draw, but the days of tiny, choppy clips being OK are over; so it's got to be quality feeds to compete. And that costs.

There is actually a lot of adult hosting in Canada, particularly Toronto; due to somewhat more 'agreeable' privacy and protective laws for the website owners. The content and operations tend to be in the US (California, New York, and Florida, generally) but the 'physical' presence is up here...


Laz

 

[raven@mirage]

Please, lets keep it civil in here. A simple discussion is all I ask

So Im sure everyone has had the thought of running their own porn site, something like bangbros or realitykings. From what I understand, theres two ways this can be done.

1) You pay for the material from some other site and then host it and charge for it.

2) You create your own material (bring in the girls, do the filming, etc).

Now, I know the majority of this industry is based out of the states (primarily L.A I believe) and the majority of the "amateur" porn models come from "modeling" agencies like LA Direct: http://www.ladirectmodels.com/female.php

So, how much do you think sites like bangbros.com pay each of these girls? I would guess about $500 or so per scene, but a friend of mine was thinking something much higher.

I wonder how the industry is in Toronto?

Apart from the html and costs of running a site + cost of girls, hows the income? Is it more of just a "hobby" for the site owners?

Would love to hear your responses.

I have posted about this before on another thread about the rates in toronto compared to the states or the mecca of being in LA.

as for the income is really depends on what your doing and if you able to get enough sales in your niche and what niche you are attracting.

Most people start it off as a hobby or part-time income, there is a few out there who make it big money companies in toronto would be platinumbucks, flashcash they host the major parties in toronto each year there is a christmas party.

then is there a whole different market out there of people who make homemade websites such as southern-charms.com , freakmomas.com, camzcash.com and http://wjwebdesigns.com/recruit.shtml

If you are able to produce your own content but your not able to handle all the webhosting, server fees and billing there is companies out there who will make site for you and you just have to worry about producing content such as wildrosenetwork.comand the rest of the sites I mentioned before.

 

[raven@mirage]

Why join a pay site when there are numerous free options out there, e.g. redtube. com, youporn.com, etc?

Those sites steal from the pay sites and eventually will be shut down.

 

[raven@mirage]

I have many clients in Toronto that are in the porn business including one the second largest dating/porn site in the world 6 million individual visits a month ..... go to porno alley / liberty village area ..... it is all porn.
It is alot of money but most ... even the big ones buy their content. there was the biggest internet porn company in the world running out of 77 mowat ..... money is ok... but u r talking 24/7 ..support staff, csr's , etc etc ...all 24/7

Flash Cash, Platinum Buck, Twistys

 

[raven@mirage]

That thread I was talking about https://terb.cc/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=179754

 

[cynalan]

Those sites steal from the pay sites and eventually will be shut down.

Right. The same way that all of the movie, software, mp3 file sharing sites have closed. Napster may be gone but many others have taken their place.

 

[superman]

Please, lets keep it civil in here. A simple discussion is all I ask

So Im sure everyone has had the thought of running their own porn site, something like bangbros or realitykings. From what I understand, theres two ways this can be done.

1) You pay for the material from some other site and then host it and charge for it.

2) You create your own material (bring in the girls, do the filming, etc).

Now, I know the majority of this industry is based out of the states (primarily L.A I believe) and the majority of the "amateur" porn models come from "modeling" agencies like LA Direct: http://www.ladirectmodels.com/female.php

So, how much do you think sites like bangbros.com pay each of these girls? I would guess about $500 or so per scene, but a friend of mine was thinking something much higher.

I wonder how the industry is in Toronto?

Apart from the html and costs of running a site + cost of girls, hows the income? Is it more of just a "hobby" for the site owners?

Would love to hear your responses.

i knwo the inside and they pay most girls around 800

 

[applet]

The cost of porn has fallen to www.youporn.com

 

[cypherpunk]

Right. The same way that all of the movie, software, mp3 file sharing sites have closed. Napster may be gone but many others have taken their place.

Most sites that illegally provide movies, music, and software do get shut down. The sites that don't get shut down, the filesharing sites, don't provide anything illegal. If youporn doesn't comply with the DMCA, it's history.