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HAMSTER INSPECTOR

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If you have ever spent time in LA you would have seen a lot of ad in the newspapers offering to sell prizes for huges discounts because the game she winners could not pay the hefty taxes on the prizes. This was true especialy 20 years ago. I guess now they sell it on Craigslist. I have seen cars for sale discounted to 60% of the real price, with tax in the price is closer to 80%.

On the matter of a winning streak, it can also go the other way. I know a guy that had a divorce, then lost his job and got an opportunity to take part in dot com deal around the year 2000. He spends his last few dollars to go to another city to sign up on the deal. In the middle of the deal process, the guy signing him up dies of a heat attack, now the deal is off. He goes back to his hotel room and waits to see what will happen next. The cops call him to identify the body becuase he and the dead body were from out of town and no one knew either of them. He is taken to the morgue and they tell him he has to wait till the body is processed. This takes hours and he is let out of the morgue at 2 AM in the morning. The deal is not done with the Dot COM company and he goes home broke and broken. Years later he meets the guy that signed the deal he was suppose to get. This guy has 2 luxury cars costing over $150K and a 2$ million dollar house.
 

tboy

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Yeah, that kid's tax bill is gonna be huge. That's the thing about game shows, everyone thinks it's all that.

Beauty of this case however is that with the cash he won, he'll be able to pay off some of the taxes (on both the cash and the prizes) and sell off one of the cars. He'll probably end up with one car free and clear when he's all done.

There was an article back in the 80's (or was it the 70's?) by a writer for the star who went on a game show and cronicled the entire process. The thing in that case was since he was Canadian, they didn't have to pay any tax on his winnings.

It has been a while since I saw TPIR but man, they have really bare boned the cars. You used to see 2nd tier cars but those were just about as stripped as you can get.......
 

tboy

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I don't know about plinko but I play kerplunk a couple of hours after a good meal *hehehehe*
 

HAMSTER INSPECTOR

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I don't know about plinko but I play kerplunk a couple of hours after a good meal *hehehehe*
Every time you play KERPLUNK, your cat PLAYS DEAD. Gee, I tought you could only train a dog to do that.
 

Steve Harper

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Yeah, that kid's tax bill is gonna be huge.
That may be but he won $26,000 in cash as well. He can use the net cash payout (after taxes) to pay the taxes on the cars.

When Oprah gave everyone in the audience a new Pontiac a few years ago, she (reluctantly) agreed to pay each audience member's tax hit of about $6,000 or so in order that the person could get the car.

The Price is Right guy will probably just have enough cash prize $$ to pay the taxes on his winnings & the cars.
 

tboy

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That may be but he won $26,000 in cash as well. He can use the net cash payout (after taxes) to pay the taxes on the cars.

When Oprah gave everyone in the audience a new Pontiac a few years ago, she (reluctantly) agreed to pay each audience member's tax hit of about $6,000 or so in order that the person could get the car.

The Price is Right guy will probably just have enough cash prize $$ to pay the taxes on his winnings & the cars.
the difference between oprah and TPIR is that in oprah's case, the cars were gifts, TPIR were winnings. I believe the tax rate on ALL winnings is 80% so he'd have to sell the scooter and one car in order to cover the tax bill on one car. If the total value of his winnings was $79,000.00, his tax bill would be around $64,000.00. He might not even have enough to cover the tax on one car, he might only be able to keep the scooter.....
 

Steve Harper

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the difference between oprah and TPIR is that in oprah's case, the cars were gifts, TPIR were winnings. I believe the tax rate on ALL winnings is 80% so he'd have to sell the scooter and one car in order to cover the tax bill on one car. If the total value of his winnings was $79,000.00, his tax bill would be around $64,000.00. He might not even have enough to cover the tax on one car, he might only be able to keep the scooter.....
Uh, no. Have a look at http://www.irs.gov/publications/p525/ar02.html#en_US_publink100098473.

Gifts are tax exempt. Winnings from gambling, lotteries and raffles are taxable income. If Oprah's cars were gifts then the recipients wouldn't have had to pay tax on them. But Oprah gave each of them $6K for their tax troubles, so they must have been treated as lottery or raffle income. Otherwise, why would she give tax money for non-taxable 'gifts'?

Generally, you would take the fair market value of the prizes & add it to your other income. You the pay tax on that whole value amount and your tax rate will depend on what your total income is. Note that he would probably be able to deduct his 'gambling expenses' (ie. hotel & air fare to get to the show) from his 'gambling income' in determining his taxable income.

The 19 yr old won about $80K in cash & prizes. He's probably a student so it is reasonable to think that he has no other income. So he would have to pay taxes based on his annual income of $80K. That's probably in the 25% (??) rate in the US so I would assume his $26K in cash winnings would suffice.

I haven't seen anything in the IRS site to show that these type of winnings are taxed at 80%. You mean that a US citizen's Vegas or lottery winnings are taxed at 80%?

(I'm not a tax guy but this makes sense to me. Please someone correct me if I got it wrong.)
 

rafterman

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Seems I heard the Oprah cars were actually provided to her gratis by GM as an advertising promotion so they cost her nothing.....until she had to open up her billion dollar stuffed wallet to spend some of her own money on the deal not just take the credit.
 

tboy

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Hey Steve, I don't know that 80% for sure, I am just going from memory on the article written in the star many many moons ago. When I get a moment I will do a search including vegas winnings because I have also heard that those winnings are taxed at a very high rate as well....

If I find anything I'll post a link....

Did a quick search and came up with this:

http://www.casinogaming.com/features/taxlaws.html

seems your winnings are now taxed at your income level minus your losses and you must declare both. Your losses only come off your WINNINGS not your income (sneaky bastards those taxmen, make you claim your winnings as income but not your losses as a deduction!!!).....

So yeah, the kid did great. The $26K cash will more than cover the cost of both cars......

See? Terb IS an informative place!!!!
 

GotGusto

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It's his destiny, I guess. While he's doing that, I'm here spending money getting handjobs from a 60 year old Chinese woman at the local rub-n-tug. Such is life.
 

HAMSTER INSPECTOR

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Seems I heard the Oprah cars were actually provided to her gratis by GM as an advertising promotion so they cost her nothing.....until she had to open up her billion dollar stuffed wallet to spend some of her own money on the deal not just take the credit.

GM gave away $10 million in cars to get $100 million in publicity. Opera did not put out a cent. I am sure many of the cars were sold right away because the recipients did not need the cars or have the money to pay the taxes, registration, and insurance.
 
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