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Loyalty programs for Indy providers

chatGPT

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Do any Indy providers have a loyalty program?
Like buy 10 sessions in advance and pay for only 9.

or a clear referral program?

im working on an app and would appreciate input from both sides.

There are many more innovative features within the app. For the SP, it will be about maximizing yield. For the client side, it will be about incentives and other specials.
There will be an AI component for SPs to vet clients and book appointments directly too.

I’m going to meet with a few angel investors in February to see if anyone will back this.
 

Derpy

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No one will back this, you'd also very likely face criminal charges from benefiting from it. Unless this is owned, and operated in very select places aboard, no one should put money into this.

Most good SPs have some type of "loyalty" for regulars.
 

chatGPT

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No one will back this, you'd also very likely face criminal charges from benefiting from it. Unless this is owned, and operated in very select places aboard, no one should put money into this.

Most good SPs have some type of "loyalty" for regulars.
it will be “owned” and hosted outside of North America (similar to gaming industry).
All legal requirements will be proudly met

I’m also looking at the corporate sponsor angle. Eg. build up “points” towards a large pizza and wings.
 

philonius

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A couple indy sps I frequent have a bonus or whatever for repeat visits that they track (10th hour is 50% off, or free sub to their OF, etc) but nothing super structured like a loyalty system. Your more than welcome to try this but getting indies to pay for an app that tracks them AND clients (even semi-anonymously) is gonna be a hard sell.
 
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bob.man

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I just think an app like this would be bad.

The point is to be anonymous, and you expect the SP to be private and not free with information.

That goes away with an app you have to sign up and it using ai, it's easier to get information from and it would be a target for hackers.

This all around would be a very bad app.
 

Shamrock1

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I’m not sure there would be support for an “Air miles” like program for this industry. You’re talking about grouping together a bunch of Indy’s to dictate terms of how the program works and what conditions need to be met and how it is implemented. The whole point of being Indy is to not have an exterior control in place. lol.

Plus I’m not sure I’d want to be storing some loyalty card in my wallet. lol.
 
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brandon7649

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sounds like a bad idea just on initial read, but who knows whats in store tomorrow?

I myself will not enroll or even download an app like this. Honestly, this hobby isnt like buying stuff from a big box store.
I like the discretion in this hobby and am not comfortable sharing my details to a random app which literally ties my personal and financial info to this hobby...it would also detail how much I paid for each SP lol... guys wtf ..roflmao
I'd rather pay advertised price everytime than run a risk with LE. If my favs have a bonus, I'm comfortable discussing this one on one with them.
 
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Derpy

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it will be “owned” and hosted outside of North America (similar to gaming industry).
All legal requirements will be proudly met

I’m also looking at the corporate sponsor angle. Eg. build up “points” towards a large pizza and wings.
The moment your connected to the app, they would make a hell of a example. Good luck.
 

Shamrock1

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These ideas are usually spawned by guys with their pants down around their ankles- just saying
Agreed. I mean this type of solution would have made RICO charges against the mafia a lot easier if you could have gotten them all to sign up to a central repository with all their contact info and itemizing their activities. Lol
 
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Daddy2021

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Do any Indy providers have a loyalty program?
Like buy 10 sessions in advance and pay for only 9.

or a clear referral program?

im working on an app and would appreciate input from both sides.

There are many more innovative features within the app. For the SP, it will be about maximizing yield. For the client side, it will be about incentives and other specials.
There will be an AI component for SPs to vet clients and book appointments directly too.

I’m going to meet with a few angel investors in February to see if anyone will back this.
It just seems like another guy trying to make money off the backs of SWs ….i don’t think they would be on board. Too many negative variables.
 

Derpy

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Imagine the story's when they inevitably get hacked and all their database goes public. You thought eHarmony was amusing to watch the fallout. 🤣

Imagine the drooling divorce lawyers that then get access to visit history and records. Haha.

Oh man, the more I think about the fallout. This idea has been floated since the internet and apps became a thing.

It's not viable. Even European countries that legalize sex work don't do it. For a reason.
 

brandon7649

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Imagine the story's when they inevitably get hacked and all their database goes public. You thought eHarmony was amusing to watch the fallout. 🤣

Imagine the drooling divorce lawyers that then get access to visit history and records. Haha.

Oh man, the more I think about the fallout. This idea has been floated since the internet and apps became a thing.

It's not viable. Even European countries that legalize sex work don't do it. For a reason.
no but the dude got AI..AI gonna do everything for you even in the app....
AI, AGI, LLM..pay as you go... surge pricing!

@chatGPT , im not trying to pick on u bud, but just the general vibe around tech these days is just so ridiculously half-thought out, incomplete and utter false advertising
 

chatGPT

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Ok I haven’t done the best job to explain certain elements such as :

- guaranteed anonymity on both sides - using IAM protocols that are comprehensive
- no cost to clients- clients also can create custom profiling based on wha they like (eg blondes, 40s, busty, natural breasts, kissing essential)
- no cost to SPs for basic. Pay for AI features such as Executive Assistant (book your calendar and vet clients). Pay for features to help increase yield. Push features when coming to a new town. Revenue management and predictions, pricing alignment based on time of day
- sponsors: hotel chains, food chains, gas stations
— and much much more
 

philonius

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Ok I haven’t done the best job to explain certain elements such as :

- guaranteed anonymity on both sides - using IAM protocols that are comprehensive
- no cost to clients- clients also can create custom profiling based on wha they like (eg blondes, 40s, busty, natural breasts, kissing essential)
- no cost to SPs for basic. Pay for AI features such as Executive Assistant (book your calendar and vet clients). Pay for features to help increase yield. Push features when coming to a new town. Revenue management and predictions, pricing alignment based on time of day
- sponsors: hotel chains, food chains, gas stations
— and much much more
Give us the elevator pitch to a hotel or food chain or gas station on why they should be on this app (actually, you can do it for clients and/or providers too) and you'll have all the reasons you need as to why they would never be a part of it.

This idea is DOA
 

brandon7649

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Ok I haven’t done the best job to explain certain elements such as :

- guaranteed anonymity on both sides - using IAM protocols that are comprehensive
- no cost to clients- clients also can create custom profiling based on wha they like (eg blondes, 40s, busty, natural breasts, kissing essential)
- no cost to SPs for basic. Pay for AI features such as Executive Assistant (book your calendar and vet clients). Pay for features to help increase yield. Push features when coming to a new town. Revenue management and predictions, pricing alignment based on time of day
- sponsors: hotel chains, food chains, gas stations
— and much much more
lol you can add these 2 elements in the hamburger menu to your app:
- visual dashboard of clients info, their address and IP, and how much they paid for each SP for LE
- send video recording of sessions to the wife/ SO
 
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chatGPT

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Give us the elevator pitch to a hotel or food chain or gas station on why they should be on this app (actually, you can do it for clients and/or providers too) and you'll have all the reasons you need as to why they would never be a part of it.

This idea is DOA
everyone laughed at Jeff Bezos when he first started…..

everyone laughed at Netflix when they introduced streaming ….

I’m a founder with several successful exits. This is a small passion project.
 
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