Lots of people say immigrants are taking all the jobs

Claudia Love

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But seriously think about it if they are coming here and working sometimes 2 to 3 jobs and making a decent life for themselves .They are being a very productive citizen . Every single person I talk to that has come from other Countries IMO work harder than a Canadian. So why is that ? My yoga teacher said to me Tim Hortons is no longer white I said "what?" she says some cant even speak English properly and then she said Walmart is doing the same. I said to her listen if a white guy or lady wants the job they CAN apply for it. But IMO many don't want to do minimum wage jobs. Now if they saw immigrants NOT working you know what people would say then. So I truly believe most immigrants are hard workers and very much needed to help this Country.Or do you think like the yoga teacher?
 

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But seriously think about it if they are coming here and working sometimes 2 to 3 jobs and making a decent life for themselves .They are being a very productive citizen . Every single person I talk to that has come from other Countries IMO work harder than a Canadian. So why is that ? My yoga teacher said to me Tim Hortons is no longer white I said "what?" she says some cant even speak English properly and then she said Walmart is doing the same. I said to her listen if a white guy or lady wants the job they CAN apply for it. But IMO many don't want to do minimum wage jobs. Now if they saw immigrants NOT working you know what people would say then. So I truly believe most immigrants are hard workers and very much needed to help this Country.Or do you think like the yoga teacher?
The reality is Canada's economy dictates immigration policy and is currently good for Canada.
 

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But seriously think about it if they are coming here and working sometimes 2 to 3 jobs and making a decent life for themselves .They are being a very productive citizen . Every single person I talk to that has come from other Countries IMO work harder than a Canadian. So why is that ? My yoga teacher said to me Tim Hortons is no longer white I said "what?" she says some cant even speak English properly and then she said Walmart is doing the same. I said to her listen if a white guy or lady wants the job they CAN apply for it. But IMO many don't want to do minimum wage jobs. Now if they saw immigrants NOT working you know what people would say then. So I truly believe most immigrants are hard workers and very much needed to help this Country.Or do you think like the yoga teacher?
I came here from another country 44 years ago. When I first arrived, I washed dishes and cleaned toilets to put myself through graduate school. 18 hours of school and work. All the while, I was sending money to the people I had left back home. Even today, I send at least $500 a month to pay school fees, health care and to support my two aunts 85 and 88 years who would have died a long time ago without my support.

I worked hard like that so my kids wouldnt have to wash dishes and clean toilets. And they didnt. I paid all their college fees and now they are both professionals.

Those immigrants you see working 2 to 3 jobs are doing so to send money to their folks back home. Canada is like heaven to us.
 

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The same people who say "immigrants are taking all our job" are the same morons who will, in the next breath, say, "immigrants come here to get on welfare".

Well??? Which is it???? I personally know of no immigrant who has come to Canada for the purpose of getting on benefits.

The fact of the matter is that the typical immigrant who comes to Canada will end up taking a job/jobs that born-and-bred Canadians don't want to do. And oftentimes they work harder and longer hours than we do as well. Oftentimes, people come here and open up small businesses, like restaurants and shops, that are benefits to the economy and their local communities.

The people complaining about "immigrants", in my experience, are mostly part of Canada's great unwashed, white-undershirt-wearing, Buck-a-Beer-swilling underclass who are looking to blame others for their own shitty station in life.

Some of those folks can be found on this forum.
 

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“Immigrants” are some of the hardest working, most honest and most grateful people in Canada. Every “immigrant” I have working for me are the first to arrive, the last to leave and the ONLY ones that thank me for giving them a job.

I would gladly take 1 “immigrant”over 4 “native born” any day.
 

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The people complaining about "immigrants", in my experience, are mostly part of Canada's great unwashed, white-undershirt-wearing, Buck-a-Beer-swilling underclass who are looking to blame others for their own shitty station in life.

Some of those folks can be found on this forum.

This has been my experience also.
 

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But seriously think about it if they are coming here and working sometimes 2 to 3 jobs and making a decent life for themselves .They are being a very productive citizen . Every single person I talk to that has come from other Countries IMO work harder than a Canadian. So why is that ? My yoga teacher said to me Tim Hortons is no longer white I said "what?" she says some cant even speak English properly and then she said Walmart is doing the same. I said to her listen if a white guy or lady wants the job they CAN apply for it. But IMO many don't want to do minimum wage jobs. Now if they saw immigrants NOT working you know what people would say then. So I truly believe most immigrants are hard workers and very much needed to help this Country.Or do you think like the yoga teacher?
My parents were Immigrants , they had to work their ass off , take abuse, yelling , threats of getting fired by their Canadian bosses. ( 1950's-1980's) Likely had to work harder then most . When I was in school my teachers would say immigrants would take jobs Canadians would not want in most cases. Fast forward today. To some extent yes but today we have many Professionals coming to this country. If they don't qualify to be a Doctor they will seek jobs in Medical/Dental Sales. Taking jobs away from Canadians . Also saturate the market when they are able tp practice eg: Dentist so we have dental offices on almost every corner, less patients to go around ......You can have arguments for Pros and cons of both. Bottom line if we stop complaining and focus on what we can do we should be fine
 
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This has been my experience also.
Yup. People like that feel they're looked down on by everyone else in society. Immigrants and minorities are an easy target for them to heap blame on and feel a false sense of superiority over. This has been the case throughout history, not just in Canada.
 

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You know my yoga instructor should have just zipped it . As much as I enjoyed her classes I refuse to go to her class now . Immigrants should not be treated like outsiders or criminals the stigma has to stop. Its not just white people doing it its all races singling out others if people judged people on their souls and not one there skin the world would be a better place.My grandmother told me years ago if you fell in a well and a black man reached his arm to help you and a Mexican reached his hand to get you and an asian man reached his hand to get you wand a white man reached his hand to help you .....which hand would you grab I just looked at her like what??? she says you'd grab the closest hand ;)
 

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I work with lots of immigrants and they are fantastic people. What is up with business and the government though?
What about the recent expansion of the temporary workers program?
Business enjoyed decades of of labour surpluses with boomers and women streaming in.
Why can't workers(native born and immigrants alike) enjoy the flipside?
 
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My immigrant parents settled in rural Quebec. Great place to raise kids. We were really poor. How poor you ask? We were so poor that mom (bless her soul) took in boarders.

Country folks are so hard working and down to earth. Saw many foreign temporary workers during harvest time.
 
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You know my yoga instructor should have just zipped it . As much as I enjoyed her classes I refuse to go to her class now . Immigrants should not be treated like outsiders or criminals the stigma has to stop. Its not just white people doing it its all races singling out others if people judged people on their souls and not one there skin the world would be a better place.My grandmother told me years ago if you fell in a well and a black man reached his arm to help you and a Mexican reached his hand to get you and an asian man reached his hand to get you wand a white man reached his hand to help you .....which hand would you grab I just looked at her like what??? she says you'd grab the closest hand ;)
How much trouble to find a new Yoga instructor?...
 

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But seriously think about it if they are coming here and working sometimes 2 to 3 jobs and making a decent life for themselves .They are being a very productive citizen . Every single person I talk to that has come from other Countries IMO work harder than a Canadian. So why is that ? My yoga teacher said to me Tim Hortons is no longer white I said "what?" she says some cant even speak English properly and then she said Walmart is doing the same. I said to her listen if a white guy or lady wants the job they CAN apply for it. But IMO many don't want to do minimum wage jobs. Now if they saw immigrants NOT working you know what people would say then. So I truly believe most immigrants are hard workers and very much needed to help this Country.Or do you think like the yoga teacher?
Doug Stanhope does a take on immigration and nationalism that I think will speak too you. I want you to trust me on this one.

 
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Immigrants are fine but to an extend. Working in a sector that deals with many immigrants (and I am one myself). It is an easier walk for them now to get settled, and ive seen my share of Canadians who were immigrants on welfare after 5 years in Canada as I handle some of their paperwork.

The land immigrants have harder time adjusted due to coming with high point and a needed education but some do not or cannot transfer their Credentials into the Canadian system.

The mass problem is the international students, I see huge groups of them, meaning our real young canadian system is failing. It takes 2-3 Generations of immigrants to actually get settled into the Canadian mindset. Allowing bigger pockets of their own home, causes tension to areas where one may not as accepted.

Such as there was an article of an international(s) students using needles at parties in university to rape female student. Harassment as been happening to our women often. As I hear how uncomfortable they lately downtown around certain groups who cannot follow basic manners in public.
 

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My immigrant parents settled in rural Quebec. Great place to raise kids. We were really poor. How poor you ask? We were so poor that mom (bless her soul) took in boarders.

Country folks are so hard working and down to earth. Saw many foreign temporary workers during harvest time.
Darts, where did your parents come from? Curious
 

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Every single person I talk to that has come from other Countries IMO work harder than a Canadian. So why is that ?
This is an interesting question, that likely has an answer in environment. It's in the human condition to want to improve one's own situation. We feel happiest when our life is improving, not when it is stagnating or declining. This is why when someone affluent goes bankrupt or otherwise has their wealthy lifestyle disrupted, they can't cope with it well, even though they may still be well off relative to you and I. Similarly, for the first time in centuries, the younger Western generations have less opportunity than their parents, so when they strike out on their own it's often with a sense of disillusionment.

Contrast that to immigrants who are often coming from a country of low opportunity. Their environment has improved as a result. They have noticeably progressed into a better life situation. That provides motivation, something our native population lacks.

The debate about immigrants taking jobs is irrelevant so long as they are also creating commensurate demand within the country (as opposed to sending money out of the country to families back home).
 

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This is an interesting question, that likely has an answer in environment. It's in the human condition to want to improve one's own situation. We feel happiest when our life is improving, not when it is stagnating or declining. This is why when someone affluent goes bankrupt or otherwise has their wealthy lifestyle disrupted, they can't cope with it well, even though they may still be well off relative to you and I. Similarly, for the first time in centuries, the younger Western generations have less opportunity than their parents, so when they strike out on their own it's often with a sense of disillusionment.

Contrast that to immigrants who are often coming from a country of low opportunity. Their environment has improved as a result. They have noticeably progressed into a better life situation. That provides motivation, something our native population lacks.

The debate about immigrants taking jobs is irrelevant so long as they are also creating commensurate demand within the country (as opposed to sending money out of the country to families back home).
The immigrants(not talking about family class here)are generally go getters to begin with. That is why they left their countries. So, of course the native born will look lazy in comparison.
 
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I work for a big professional services firm.
We need professional college or uni grad folks at the very least.

After a few years professional experience, you end up:
- Specialized BA in geography etc or BES to MCIP professional planner, or registered land surveyor
-BES and become a hydrologist or environmental planning or remediation specialist
-B.Eng or BASc and end up a P.Eng..
-College civil engineering technologists end up CET as designers, or contract administrators.

When we were still in the office pre covid, there would be 9-10 different languages spoken in the lunch room.
Folks from all over the world.

The shortage is home born Canadians.
Because you need to graduate from a professional program at post secondary learning to get your foot in the door here.
 
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