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Looking to finally understand how MA’s work vs SP’s

Narrok

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Before I get into it, I want to start by saying I’ve been on terb for 2 or 3 years now. I mostly lurk. I’ve gained some good knowledge reading here. I’ve asked questions in the past as well. But I’ve never been completely satisfied with the answers, in terms of truly understanding how MA’s work Vs SP’s.

So far I’ve only dabbled on the SP side. I know how that works, and I know what you get for the cost. It’s simple and easy.

I also know I have to be careful how to word and say all this as some things aren’t to be discussed. But my confusion lies in how exactly the MA experience goes.

I’ve never understood the draw to MA’s given my understanding of it has been that its as costly , perhaps more, but for less service, compared to SP’s. I’m referring to things I think I can’t discuss here. The extras. Etc.

I’m planning on visiting one of the club alpha’s, but I have no clue how to approach it. With SP’s I know exactly what I’m going to get. I have no clue with MA‘s. I want to understand , and maybe have a road map on exactly what to do and expect.

With SP’s You text, you discuss, you know what‘s what. But for MA’s , how do you plan this? How do you know who to see, and to know what to expect?

Anyway I’m repeating myself, but I’m hoping someone can clear this up for me once and for all.
 

whysoserious

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Before I get into it, I want to start by saying I’ve been on terb for 2 or 3 years now. I mostly lurk. I’ve gained some good knowledge reading here. I’ve asked questions in the past as well. But I’ve never been completely satisfied with the answers, in terms of truly understanding how MA’s work Vs SP’s.

So far I’ve only dabbled on the SP side. I know how that works, and I know what you get for the cost. It’s simple and easy.

I also know I have to be careful how to word and say all this as some things aren’t to be discussed. But my confusion lies in how exactly the MA experience goes.

I’ve never understood the draw to MA’s given my understanding of it has been that its as costly , perhaps more, but for less service, compared to SP’s. I’m referring to things I think I can’t discuss here. The extras. Etc.

I’m planning on visiting one of the club alpha’s, but I have no clue how to approach it. With SP’s I know exactly what I’m going to get. I have no clue with MA‘s. I want to understand , and maybe have a road map on exactly what to do and expect.

With SP’s You text, you discuss, you know what‘s what. But for MA’s , how do you plan this? How do you know who to see, and to know what to expect?

Anyway I’m repeating myself, but I’m hoping someone can clear this up for me once and for all.
check your pm
 

Narrok

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I also don‘t quite understand the MA thread with the 133 pages of +1’s. To be blunt, not quite sure what knowledge we are to learn from +1, other then it wasn’t a negative experience. Am I overlooking something there?

I know there used to be a sheet, but was moved off this site. The +1’s had more meaning then, because at least they were tallied up. But I don’t think anyone is going to go through 133 pages worth of +1‘s, which loops me back to questioning why that thread is still going.
 

JohnnyFever

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The basic flow of a MA session is:

  • Shower for 2
  • She massages your backside
  • You flip over
  • Hand release
Obviously good MAs will do a lot with those different components. I got into MAs partly because I was bored with the same basic service provider encounters, but I found that a really good MA will make it all an experience to remember.

There's a lot of YMMV involved for things like kissing, and unfortunately now a lot of upcharges too (which were much less common before the pandemic). As for MAs that cross the line into hybrid services, that's not something that can be talked about here. My advice would be to not go in looking for that, or just go to an independent who offers hybrid services.
 

Narrok

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The basic flow of a MA session is:

  • Shower for 2
  • She massages your backside
  • You flip over
  • Hand release
Obviously good MAs will do a lot with those different components. I got into MAs partly because I was bored with the same basic service provider encounters, but I found that a really good MA will make it all an experience to remember.

There's a lot of YMMV involved for things like kissing, and unfortunately now a lot of upcharges too (which were much less common before the pandemic). As for MAs that cross the line into hybrid services, that's not something that can be talked about here. My advice would be to not go in looking for that, or just go to an independent who offers hybrid services.
I appreciate the responses so far.

So I’ll add a concern of mine as well. I’ve brought this up before , but more in vain with SP’s . I’m 51 , and 270 pounds. I’d be quite embarrassed with my big gut, having a sf2. Are there any gents in my situation here , that have gone to MA’s? How are they with fat guys like me? Is that an issue?

I recall that the answers I got for this, from the SP angle was that it didn’t matter. That some even prefer it. Wondering if it’s the same in the MA world? As I’ll be very conscientious of my weight and appearance.
 
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I appreciate the responses so far.

So I’ll add a concern of mine as well. I’ve brought this up before , but more in vain with SP’s . I’m 51 , and 270 pounds. I’d be quite embarrassed with my big gut, having a sf2. Are there any gents in my situation here , that have gone to MA’s? How are they with fat guys like me? Is that an issue?

I recall that the answers I got for this, from the SP angle was that it didn’t matter. That some even prefer it. Wondering if it’s the same in the MA world? As I’ll be very conscientious of my weight and appearance.
If you’re conscious of your weight, make up for it was impeccable hygiene and class. That goes a very long way. Scrub everything thoroughly before you go, and demo it again in the SF2. Reach every where.
 

CuddleBuddy2

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I’m planning on visiting one of the club alpha’s, but I have no clue how to approach it. With SP’s I know exactly what I’m going to get. I have no clue with MA‘s. I want to understand , and maybe have a road map on exactly what to do and expect.

With SP’s You text, you discuss, you know what‘s what. But for MA’s , how do you plan this? How do you know who to see, and to know what to expect?
At Club Alpha or CMJ, don't expect FS or BJs. Not going to happen. Can't say about other Spas, except that at most other Spas you have to request SF2 before the massage. Never been to Vibe Spa, so no idea there but I'm guessing they're like CMJ and Alpha.
I see GFE MAs for SF2, sensual body slides, mutual massage, HE. Anything less and I'd rather do it myself. I find MA sessions are more relaxing and sensual than a SP session, if done right.
Twitter might help with communicating with MAs and enquiring about services. If someone posts a rating in the MA thread you could PM that member and ask for more info on that MA. So that thread is still helpful.
Many MA clients are old and fat, so don't worry yourself. Just be well groomed, clean and respectful.
 
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Before I get into it, I want to start by saying I’ve been on terb for 2 or 3 years now. I mostly lurk. I’ve gained some good knowledge reading here. I’ve asked questions in the past as well. But I’ve never been completely satisfied with the answers, in terms of truly understanding how MA’s work Vs SP’s.

So far I’ve only dabbled on the SP side. I know how that works, and I know what you get for the cost. It’s simple and easy.

I also know I have to be careful how to word and say all this as some things aren’t to be discussed. But my confusion lies in how exactly the MA experience goes.

I’ve never understood the draw to MA’s given my understanding of it has been that its as costly , perhaps more, but for less service, compared to SP’s. I’m referring to things I think I can’t discuss here. The extras. Etc.

I’m planning on visiting one of the club alpha’s, but I have no clue how to approach it. With SP’s I know exactly what I’m going to get. I have no clue with MA‘s. I want to understand , and maybe have a road map on exactly what to do and expect.

With SP’s You text, you discuss, you know what‘s what. But for MA’s , how do you plan this? How do you know who to see, and to know what to expect?

Anyway I’m repeating myself, but I’m hoping someone can clear this up for me once and for all.
Different girls offer different things. It doesn't matter if its an MA or not, everyone offers different things if you get what I'm saying. Safest bet is to look for girls that you like that also have good reviews/good mentions on here and pm anyone who has seen them and ask them what their experience was like. You can also try reaching out to MA's directly but sometimes they dont respond or dont say directly what they offer. I've been to a majority of the spas in Ottawa and I've always been able to do exactly what I came in mind to do, if you get what I'm saying. Also looks dont matter, i've heard it time and time again from every provider around, they dont care what you look like (unless its about ethnicity which is a different conversation) they only care that you dont smell bad/you're not rude, they biggest thing they care about is money, bring some extra cash to spas and you'll be fine
 

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I appreciate the responses so far.

So I’ll add a concern of mine as well. I’ve brought this up before , but more in vain with SP’s . I’m 51 , and 270 pounds. I’d be quite embarrassed with my big gut, having a sf2. Are there any gents in my situation here , that have gone to MA’s? How are they with fat guys like me? Is that an issue?

I recall that the answers I got for this, from the SP angle was that it didn’t matter. That some even prefer it. Wondering if it’s the same in the MA world? As I’ll be very conscientious of my weight and appearance.
Im old and fat too.

I'm very well manscaped have impecable hygiene, and am a gentlemen above all.

I treat the ladies very well, always include a tip with the donation, and I get very high mileage.
 
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JohnnyFever

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I appreciate the responses so far.

So I’ll add a concern of mine as well. I’ve brought this up before , but more in vain with SP’s . I’m 51 , and 270 pounds. I’d be quite embarrassed with my big gut, having a sf2. Are there any gents in my situation here , that have gone to MA’s? How are they with fat guys like me? Is that an issue?

I recall that the answers I got for this, from the SP angle was that it didn’t matter. That some even prefer it. Wondering if it’s the same in the MA world? As I’ll be very conscientious of my weight and appearance.
It's not a date, you're paying for services rendered. As long as you're hygienic and respectful of whatever limits they have, you'll be fine.
 

rexscott

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Just bite the bullet and book an appt, nothing like the actual experience to tell you what you want to know.

Personally I prefer MA's over SP's for various reasons. Less money (though perhaps not as good a "value"), the incredible choice (like 50 or so women across all the spas, can find a number that fit your desired type), age (can find very young women), the structured experience (A leads to B leads to C, knowing what to expect), less of an onus to try to make a personal connection (can just go for services rendered), ease (of booking etc), assurance of clean/hygienic accomodations, convenient locations, posted schedules let you see availability 1-2 weeks ahead, management that stands behind their girls and will help resolve problems, the possiblity of hybrid MAs, less unsafe practices, and finally, if it's just a hand job, I dont have to feel the pressure of having to "perform," ie get hard and stay hard.
 

William St

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Just bite the bullet and book an appt, nothing like the actual experience to tell you what you want to know.

Personally I prefer MA's over SP's for various reasons. Less money (though perhaps not as good a "value"), the incredible choice (like 50 or so women across all the spas, can find a number that fit your desired type), age (can find very young women), the structured experience (A leads to B leads to C, knowing what to expect), less of an onus to try to make a personal connection (can just go for services rendered), ease (of booking etc), assurance of clean/hygienic accomodations, convenient locations, posted schedules let you see availability 1-2 weeks ahead, management that stands behind their girls and will help resolve problems, the possiblity of hybrid MAs, less unsafe practices, and finally, if it's just a hand job, I dont have to feel the pressure of having to "perform," ie get hard and stay hard.
I agree with all the above. MA is often the way to go. If you find one you like and chemistry is good, things just get better with repeat visits.
 

cx77ca

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Do any of the big MA places have a flat fee? Do I have to pay at the desk, then start over with the MA?
 

William St

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Do any of the big MA places have a flat fee? Do I have to pay at the desk, then start over with the MA?
Usually the MA's fee will include the room charge. If it's a members' Club, you'll need to pay the one- time membership fee, which is usually insignificant.
 

haplessinquiry

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I appreciate the responses so far.

So I’ll add a concern of mine as well. I’ve brought this up before , but more in vain with SP’s . I’m 51 , and 270 pounds. I’d be quite embarrassed with my big gut, having a sf2. Are there any gents in my situation here , that have gone to MA’s? How are they with fat guys like me? Is that an issue?

I recall that the answers I got for this, from the SP angle was that it didn’t matter. That some even prefer it. Wondering if it’s the same in the MA world? As I’ll be very conscientious of my weight and appearance.
Girls are girls, they have similar tastes in men, whether they are SP or MA. I wouldn't worry about it. Dad bods are hot nowadays, apparently.
 
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